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i mean if playing like you described has worked for you in the past, who am i to yell about it. i just dont necessarily agree with it and feel like it would lead to several mislynches.

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what is this tone...

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when you say it feels like a weird post from me, there are a few possibilities:

1. you have a meta on me that I normally shitpost a lot (if you do that's a lie because I don't), and therefore me immediately being serious is strange

2. you have a general meta of townspeople shitposting (not true afaik) and me not doing so stands out as scummy

3. other

which is it?

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dfr's tone is different from anything I've ever seen

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Also, agreed, but this is actually where my emotion read would come from.

But I'll share it anyways, here goes!

So dfr is sticking his neck out for the new guy because...? Is the question that I had in my head. Coupled with his eagerness to start defending makes me think, based on the mini outburst, that, indeed, had strong opinions on the new player being pcked on with such scrutiny. Ergo, because he displayed frustration that he's pure and most likely town.

...And that's my emotion read. lol

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so unvote...? feels like you're overly concerned about the justification for your vote, then you hedge your vote reasoning but don't do anything about it?

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the majority of this post is wifom which isn't helpful

but it just feels odd to me that you picked out my post in particular when I didn't really have thread presence

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also wait how is this even part of your accusation

it was literally the first page of the game, I don't see how that can be part of your accusation unless you're throwing it on there as a way of reinforcing the scum me that you've painted in your mind

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hot read: MML is town

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Oh I don't know, I see a hidden message here.

See... if you move the H to the left... and then make the first word seven letters...

...

omg

Hardest Ho Tits

If this isn't the scummiest thing I've seen in this post then I don't know what is!

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Personally, I don't like him freaking out over the smallest things.

That's just me though.

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omg and ho? tits?? aa's connected to aj...

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it's heavily meta and based off something I've always seen him do some variation of as town, and never as wolf (although only one wolf game so lol)

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sticking his neck out for the new guy is different when theres actual pressure. i was the only one talking to andy, only vote on him early on, out of like 20 players.

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But, dfr saw it, didn't like what he saw, and decided to "stick his neck out" for andy.

Whatcha tryin' to say with this post, ms. motor-buttsy?

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Out of like 20 players isn't fair to say when half of them have a single post or not at all. At least that's what it feels like.

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that furthers my point. I'm saying there was little to no real pressure or danger of being lynched, or even any semblance of a bandwagon forming

which makes your current emotional outburst pretty big

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as i said earlier it's a subject that i have strong opinions and beliefs in. personally i don't see why this is big now when i've done so in the past in and out of games.

and i said it's not fair to say out of 20 because i feel like that could be used to credit yourself in someway. even then out of 20 vs out of 10 is a difference of 5% or 10%.

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historically i beg to differ. weaker players and wolves are more likely to jump onto a push made by a stronger player.

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i'm not talking about history at the moment'

i'm saying literally when you chimed in emotionally about newer players getting lynched and w/e, was there any danger of there being a bandwagon forming on andy
was there any indication that anyone else was agreeing with me
was there any reason to "OH NO ANDY IS GOING TO GET LYNCHED I NEED TO JUMP IN AND SAVE HIM"

the difference between "out of 20" is that you still need a majority of all the players, even those who haven't even posted or done anything for a lynch. Establishing a good baseline reads level for a new player is stupid important because quite a lot of at least FFR twg revolves around player meta, even though it's not the end-all-be-all.

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tbh you were going on andy pretty hard, and if we were sitting here at EoD and nothing happens on D0 he could end up being the lynch based off of your arguments.

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do you believe after all that has been said in this thread that he's your top scum right now?

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Yes and no. Yes because traction could have easily accrued, which is why I said the historically mark. And no because there wasn't immediate danger. However, I simply just didn't agree with your push. If I had the intention of saving him, I wouldn't have waited for you and him to finish. I would've jumped straight in and been like "HOLD UP HOLD UP HOLD UP" but I didn't. Likewise I don't think people would let me save people. I'd probably get brushed off as the resident dumbass as I feel happens a bit already. No one was a agreeing with you but I disagreed with you and I felt like I should note that I did at the time and back it up with reasoning.

I understand what you're saying here, but I feel like you're trying to establish a meta for him. Let him develop his own meta and play the way that he learns how to play. Probing a newer player, sure. Asking his or her input, sure. Putting them in an uncomfortable situation intentionally to where a lot of people regardless of alignment crumble, bad, because it happens a lot regardless of alignment.

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Oops, I merely skimmed what you and andy were talking about at the start of the conversing between you both.

Regardless, I still feel good about you right now, and apply the "intentions are pure" towards your analysis then because I'm not getting bad feelings about it in general.

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no, but thats like showing me a picture of 100 ducks and instantly asking me to choose my favorite.

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you're seriously blowing a single early d0 push out of fucking proportion currently.

if you're going to continue to bring up history, you should also check my history of d0 instigation.

and quite honestly, i don't really care about "new person is new so should feel bad lynching him early because easy target" because that's seriously just an excuse to stop playing the game properly.

If he's unable to string together a coherent argument off of a very strange initial push onto AA, then I'm going to point that shit out, because it's weird. When he's unable to coherently elaborate on his argument, and then resorts to "oh ok pick on the new guy ok that's fine you'll just thin the numbers" then I can also point that out and be dissatisfied with the response.

===

essentially, you disagreed with a push, and resorted to extreme emotion to convey it, in the form of a very awkward post.

The magnitude of the cause and magnitude of the reaction are severely unbalanced, and you look really fucking weird doing it, regardless of any prior reason, or history, or whatever.

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analogy does not work in the slightest.

if he's not your top scum, then who is

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dbp. because thats the quality of read i can give right now. and yes the analogy does work.

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if you modified it a little to be something like:

i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker" then the analogy would be valid, and even then, you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus.

i do analogies. don't tell me an analogy works when it doesn't.

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Considering you voted me after I showed reasoning for my discontent I don't think so.

I know you out of anyone don't care and I don't expect you to.

When there's nothing to go off of, couldn't anything be perceived as strange or forced, etc. At least he did something. He got the ball rolling, no? And to that oh ok pick on the new guy. What do you expect him to say or do? I'm genuinely curious.

Fair enough I suppose, however don't you dare say I resorted. Resorted implies that it was a last ditch effort, some sort of poor effort, and even worse, a negative one. Especially resorting to extreme emotion, because I'm not attempting to use emotions and sob stories to change your mind, but I am trying to express opinions that I have over a subject that I care about.

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i giggled like a japanese school girl

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kek

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This just in, players don't like the way YoshL goes about the game!!!

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reasoning makes 0 sense. I'm saying you overreacted to a push onto andy, and i'm not seeing any true justification for the magnitude of response for the magnitude of the original push.


are you ignoring everything i said? When a player, new or not, takes the guy with 2 posts and says "this guy is scum" completely seriously, that's reason to push. doing "something" does not mean a player is giving a very strange read, that becomes quite obvious that they're not able to elaborate on. I expected him to either, A) have actual reasons that he could easily elaborate on to dispell any issues, or B) not have actual reasons, whereupon he did eventually re-examine his read on AA and retract it. I decided to continue to talk because it's nice having a solid base of interactions.


You're now trying to place a negative connotation on "resort" that was never intended in the first place. It's what you did. you resorted to emotionally bursting out, instead of whatever else you could have possibly done in that situation.

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Honestly I dig YoshL super aggro approach. It's not too blunt, but it has that level of being under the magnifying glass that makes me shiver in joy.

Oooooh...

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hakulyte

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hakulyte

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Next question would then be, is a completely new emotional outburst post-y response from dfr that has not been done much and comes after seeing you vs andy as being faked?

Because if so, then that's why I say I'm trying not to emotion read this game, hee hee hee.

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yoshl is probably town lol

exam in 25 minutes yay

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i believe we have slightly different definitions of the word resort.

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re·sort
/rəˈzôrt/
noun
noun: resort; plural noun: resorts

1.
a place that is a popular destination for vacations or recreation, or which is frequented for a particular purpose.
"a seaside resort"
synonyms: vacation spot, tourist center, vacationland; retreat;
spa;
onsen;
informaltourist trap
"a seaside resort"

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me2thx

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Today, fly your hunger into Arbys for meal deals so hot they could melt steel beams.
Enjoy Arbys.

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if i didn't have a cuban for lunch i would totally.

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if it was being faked, then it was very unnecessary if scum, as it draws a disgusting amount of unneeded attention over

charu's town

aa's reading me town, so he's probably scum

re.axri probably scum

zenith leaning town

mml's shit

storn town

this has been hot reads with yoshl

good hot signing off

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xel actually probably also also also also also scum, giving off some pikachu vibes

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pikachu vibes?

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reference to the twg smash anon game

xel was pikachu. he literally only said pika pika pika, chu, pika pi, chu pikachu! (etc.)

he ended up being the godfather.

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Hey I guess it's time to point out that the pregame kinda hinted what was in store.

But you probably skipped it for blow in the bathroom again.
arbys

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Arbys: come for the sandwiches. Stay because you died shooting heroin into your dick in the ladies room.
Enjoy Arbys

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I mean I absolutely enjoy all of these but you know, when the train starts rollin, hopefully arby's has insight on who's who ;)

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so do you think andy is more scummy or not after this whole interaction?

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"oh ok pick on the new guy ok that's fine you'll just thin the numbers"
Was this my tone? Because that wasn't supposed to be my tone.

I have no metas. Just gut feeling it was weird. So I guess 3. other. Feelings aren't good in this game, I'm learning.

-o24

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That's not true Andy. People gut read all the time.

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its true. for example my gut says im hungry

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the dick did i miss fam

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Would just like to say @Xelnya:

never once in my entire life have I said 'oh you know where I feel like eating out today? Arby's.'

Harvey's 4 life

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storn (1)- storn
mml (2)- shado, MML
charu (2)- juckter, gold stinger
dfr (2)- xel, yoshl
tokzic (1)- roundbox
andy (1)- freezin

please lmk if I fucked anything up in the votecount

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I have a vote on MML

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dickturd numero deux

dude, no. I don't like what you did there. Makes me think that you're going to take his dick to dinner and also drive it home and give it a massage in the same night, regardless of whatever he says. At least quote some stuff that ya like so I don't think you're glorifying everything he's said on andy/dfr.

Town leaning andy for right now. It reminds me of my reasoning during the first game I ever played. I didn't talk much during my first game because I was a wolf, but I feel like this is what I would be pooping out if I rolled town that game.

While I do somewhat like the kind of push & nailing on the head that YoshL is doing, I genuinely think that andy is putting out a noob game, without much thought on the posts besides expressing that he just didn't know some certain things about the game until it started and people acted differently about it.

There's a first for everyone, this ma first Mystery game and here I am thinking that everyone was going to have the common decency to dress up. smh

what do dfr sound like? :^)

I have a meta on you that tells me you get tilted af very easily lmao

ooooh so dat wat dfr sound like. hmm ok..-ish.
Wonder if YoshL's opinion/thought is any different.

that face when 'literally the first page of the game' relates so much with what I did regarding the last game I played where I was wolf. You know, that one where ya got tilted as fuc as bad town read d0?

I like this post, not like, w e w l a d amounts, but like, amounts.

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roundbox call out?

-o24

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ayy

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we'll see if that meta still holds true

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storn for doing a fantastic job of ignoring my question and dipping his feet into the andy/yoshl interaction without actually doing anything

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On phone, still need to read last 2 pages. Lets get some thoughts out.


See I know everyone gives shit to Andy for this but I'm 100% no wolf partner he could possibly have would tell him to take that stance.

Even by himself, I dont know if Wolf Andy would be the one to try and rock the boat.

I don't know if I agree.

This vote has no reason to exist.

He's taken that stance as town before.

And I guess I'm not familiar with standard YoshL fare then cause you aggressive as fuck right now.

Wait

People having abilities based on their character? Ok maybe. Like as far as I can tell that's not really the case but NEEDING TO KNOW SOMEONE ELSES? That's hella specific yo

How about you explain why you came to that conclusion YoshL

I mean

I aint clearing anyone d0 but
I'm ok emotionally reading him town.

It happened just this turbo. And he always takes that stance anyway.
There is nothing to see with DFR atm

Don't handwave the history point its valid. You're trying awfully hard here.



Gonna eat KFC and casually read thread. YoshL please get back at me

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MML:

perhaps this is where yoshl's "guessing from the setup" comes from

just maybe

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Just getting home, I should have a couple hours or so that I can dump into this. Haven't really been feeling game, but looks like it's starting to get interesting so we'll see.

Brb reading

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this just in

mml has the reading comprehensiom of a 2 year old and cant read massive text in the op

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ninjaed as fuc lol

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took a nap after coming home from work, good to know that MML's intelligence and lack of comprehension still fails to span the width of his eyes to computer screen

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Daaaaaaaamn

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That fucking burn bro

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Feel the game with me.

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It's a warm cuddly feeling.

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The type of feeling that makes your hairs stand up in absolute terror!

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The only feeling required is the cold embrace of despair.
Arbys.

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Oh my god, that was a lot to take in.

I'm not familiar enough with YoshL's meta to base a read on his push just yet, because it seems that anyone above a certain skill level could certainly make a push like that as either town or scum. I think andy is probably town (his tone seems really relatable to my first time here in BOATS), but it's way too early for me to tell.

Yes, it does sound entirely like DFR. DFR has, in almost every game with a new player, made at least a small reference to how much he hates that we insist on leaving new players on the table D0. He's commented on it D0 when there was only one vote on Aryxi, he commented on it in the game with Pazzaz, he's made repeated mentions of it in various turbos with me, and it just generally seems to be a big issue for him. I say this because I was actually thinking "oh, here DFR goes again" when I read his post, only to see you in the next post claim it didn't sound like him.

With that said, I think DFR should be less concerned for new players. There's literally a content advisory in the rules thread, and they know what they're signing up for. When a game is rolled, RNG doesn't care who's new and who isn't in determining scum, and neither should you.


Lol this^

Also, can anyone more familiar with him confirm the "aggressive on new players to better get a read on them" aspect of YoshL's meta for me, please?

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honestly, from where i've ducked into recent twgs, i've never been at the point where dfr has ever outbursted emotionally like that about lynching new players. That's my pov, if he's actually like that (which looks like there's a good set of people who are affirrming that) then that's fine. Alot of my reasoning still stands though, since I still don't believe anything warranted the section where he got as upset as he did.

and at the same time, if a player poorly defends themself D0 and ends up lynched, it doesn't matter if they're new or not. I've forever been an advocate of newb card not fucking mattering at all during games tbh