Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I wasn't the one on the wagon that killed a townie so I'm not sure what you mean to use my vote better ;)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Maybe haku is right

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

about claiming?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

maybe we just need to have this conversation after the game ends but like
you used your vote worse than I did, categorically

you had a 0% chance to vote for wolves, which is terrible. I think you're town, and not voting for anyone is not how town is meant to win the game

I'm not playing bad because I voted a townie (who I will point out was my 2nd choice, not my first)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I voted for flash flash? what?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

speaking of. why did you move your vote? it was after he said you shouldn't vote for him, and i want to know why

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

you voted for a confirmed townie

I voted for someone who is ???

I'm not saying you're playing badly but I'm also saying maybe don't try to give me voting advice rofl

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Yeah, I think so
Losing the game to a cc fight would suck
And if we have good pr roll we can have some strong clears

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Yeah Raeko vote was objectively one of the worst yesterday. Bolts was up there, it's a toss up as to which was worse

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Let's move swiftly on now that that's established

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I didn't see it on the votecount
sorry

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

when?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

God, and people say -I- have a big ego.. ~__~

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

heard it from an old bird in a bomber jacket

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

yesterday. your vote was on ffa, and then ffa said you shouldn't vote for him.

you quoted it and said "fiiiine i guess i have to move"

and then you did, and put your vote on bolth instead, after pushing on ffa pretty much all day

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

FFA, every fgame you stick your chest out and yell that you're the most obvious town. Why. Why are you the most obvious town this game has ever known.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Never should've left that island.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

same reason as you
I don't feel that anymore, though, considering he sat without claiming

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

guys stop quoting him you're making me see his posts

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Sunfan, do you think we should massclaim

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

why'd you swap back and forth after moving it the first time (i went back and looked, you moved it back and forth between ffa and bolth a couple times)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

For the record, I thought ffa softed there as well.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

it seems we all did

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

What good does massclaiming do? 7 players, two town PRs out themselves, may or may not provide information, then we're left with 5 people saying they're VTs.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Because that's a better shot than the 50% we give ourselves when wolves fake Claim in lylo

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

smaller pool to mislynch in. also almost guarantees that the wolves kill one of the PRs, which is a good thing and a bad thing, imo

they kill someone whose role we already knew, but it means we get less info the rest of the phases.

imo, the main benefit is if there's a one shot ability (which as i understand it, there's a 1 shot ability on both sides as well as a full power) and they used it, we get that information and the person is basically VT after that

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

well mislynch or if we get lucky in those 5 (which we might, it's a 3/2 split at that point) a normal lynch lol

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

There is also a chance one of the wolves fake claims and PR are able to thunderdome them into oblivion

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

no

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Yeah, I think haku is right personally but I want to hear if sunfan thinks claiming today is good tbh

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

welp. there you go.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Weird

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because I didn't really believe him
it sounds weird, and probably even wolfy, but I'd rather just out a PR than have it dangle like that

maybe its more of a video mafia thing, but letting people live after softing that hard is really annoying, because its usually not a PR, because they would just fully claim

what Mathilda did last game (I know you weren't there) is more of the exception to the rule

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

what did they do?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

if the 1-shot role has any info, claim
otherwise, don't claim unless pushed on
full role should stay quiet unless you have info that outs a wolf or someone claims the same role

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

There might be some value into not claiming if you want to protect the PRs from getting targeted by wolves.

That's one thing, but you're going to have to deal with CCs next phase.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Well to be fair you shouldn't kill me regardless of if I am a pr or not

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

don't remember their words exactly, but they were getting pushed on, and were getting upset about it, and they said something like "you guys are really gonna make me do it, huh" but then didn't claim until the following day phase

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I honestly doubt both wolves will fakeclaim come tomorrow
if we mislynch, prove me wrong, wolves

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I'm down with this.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I will say massclaiming isn't the worst
but I think its being suggested to try and get ahead of a problem that doesn't often occur because wolves tend to be cowards

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I think PRs should ignore everyone's opinions and claim whenever they want to ~ trust no one

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

i've been softing it pretty hard anyway so i might as well out myself. i'm basically a VT now anyway

i'm hardclaiming Q, the one shot color cop

i checked haku last night. he was green. so he's either VT or Luna (with the coverup ability)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

the least helpful claim to me because I already had you so hard town rofl

But cool still

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Wow! Wasn't expecting you to be a PR!

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

yep. like i said, in a world where i'm literally completely useless, haku's a wolf but :shrug:

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Oh, you also get the name when you check ?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

LOL no but i confirmed with roundbox that the only ability that would come back as green to me instead of red is the coverup, and luna is the only character that has that ability in our setup

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I think that clears me unless Coverup can self target which I don't know.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

oh i didn't catch that. well if you're a wolf then either you can self target with coverup or your partner is the coverup lol

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

So anyway like I was saying
Raeko or plop

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

try not to mention mod communication

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

already been informed ( :

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

still not sold on raeko.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's 2 PRs, 2 wolves, and 3 VTs. 1 PR and 1 VT are essentially confirmed. If the last PR claims then we end up with this:

For a PR and Haku, 3 confirmed town, 4 ???s.

For a VT, 4 confirmed town, 3 ???s.

Is there a way of taking advantage of this majority in the second case? It lowers the lynch pool to 2 wolves and a VT for the VTs.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Wait- I'm not Luna. I could have been targeted by Luna (if wolf), but it's very possible I flip something else.

I do claim VT tho.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Or you

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

She voted for me when it wasn't self pres
That's pretty wolfy
And like, teams without Raeko on them don't have a reason to kill tokzic over you imo
Teams with Raeko at least do, to make wifom

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

how do you know you're not luna?

vt's don't get names

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

(in the world if rolled wolf because can't self target)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I'm going out for my Government allowed once-every-other-day outdoor walk for fresh air and exercise!!! See y'all in a bit

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I'm fairly confident self targeting is not a thing.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

so... how do you know you're not luna if you're VT ( :

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

ok well. i'll just have to take you at your word that you didn't

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Oooooh....

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

I could be Luna :v

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how do they keep track of how often you go out? jeez

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

they don't afaik, at least the only person I have heard of being fined was out selling drugs lmao so they added the additional charge on to that guy.

but they threaten to. Fines of $1000 lol

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

also, for the record, the OP says that you can't target the same player twice as the coverup. if a wolf was by themselves, the power would be totally useless.

i'm choosing to believe you're vt right now because it's easier for me but there is definitely a world where haku is a wolf. i'm just not sold on it, because i thought he was town anyway, and this confirmed it for me for the most part

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Lmao, going so hard on your seered green.


Ohp. And now Lotus is getting annoying. Feeding time~

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Do they really charge you just for walking around? I live in a subdivision, and if you look outside you'd never know anything was different. So many people going for walks all day long, with and without dogs.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

i'm aware that there's a world where haku is a wolf, even if i seered him green. it would be bad form to not consider this.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Which reminds me, sadness. No matter what, I can't have rolled either of my cats.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

nope

no sigma no lotus in this setup

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

(i'm assuming you have a cat named lotus now)

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

It would be, but I don't know if you should consider that now compared to later when you have 5 more equally unknown variables versus your one potentially-known, but you're the cop. You do you.

Also makes me hating Haku's setup solving post look shitty in hindsight. :upside_down:

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

Some thoughts:

Between ffa's soft and him saying sunfan is basically confirmed town, I was wondering if he was the color cop who checked sunfan. Now we know that's not the case.

Raeko also came into this phase pocketing haku when last phase she casted shade to varying degrees (no town vibes/help me read you), so I also wondered if she was the color cop. Now we know that's not the case.

But for both players, those could be natural developments rather than a wolf's fake breadcrumbing for a potential softclaim. ffa and sunfan seem to know each other well, and so do raeko and haku.

Otherwise, I think it's more likely a wolfteam without raeko killed tokzic than one with her. On the surface level, she wouldn't want to kill tokzic for the reasons she said. She wanted to play with him! On the next level down, she wouldn't want to kill tokzic because everyone would be suspicious that she killed him to help clear herself.

That kinda goes out the window if the bus driver is involved, or the wolves got blocked and a vigi shot tokzic, but otherwise I think ffa comes out looking more suspicious.

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

So, what's the plan here ?

Re: TWG Turbo 30 - The Nonary Werewolf Games [Game Thread]
 

i tried dude i really tried to get it across that haku was not a good choice