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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

he's probably town for it

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cel kinda has to flip for that opportunity, and i'd be on the record arguing against using the pearl vote as a reason to lynch him already before he was really viable or being voted

as insulting as it is to myself, i'm not sure i think that far ahead

i'm actually just realizing now that with the pearl vote, he hits a note that he wanted to use in the turbo where he's fine shrug-lynching generally inactive people, and supposedly that carries over from the FE game, but it wasn't a thing i was thinking when he made the vote, and it just might not mean much for him here

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I /am/ as good as I am

this is a nice, polite game so I take your criticism but if I called everything wolfy because it didn't make sense or because I didn't agree with it then I'd usually run out of lynches pretty quickly

its not a read that I think he would be too likely to make up as a wolf

its not /just/ calling blind out for not doing anything, its calling blind out for not doing something when blind has a valid excuse for not being in the thread AND for saying the valid excuse

its like... a bit too awkward to be w/w in my mind.

I get pointing out when your partners aren't doing anything, I'm the king of that. The difference here is in blowjob your partners got lynched and mine tend not to.

So please, don't say I used to be better. I haven't gotten worse or soft with the years. I am more likely to be right here than you are.

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oh i forgot they were the wolves in that game
got it, now we're on the same page

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I am maybe too easily triggered this game sry

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So how about that wolf shyto-ing
Ha get it

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yeah, I was just pointing out that you've gone from being strong on reads and set on what you thought with reasoning to being wishy washy and using stuff like 'it's bad but idk'. You're the one bragging that you're better than me.

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I'll say it's especially the response to the pressure
And I dont quite know where you're getting that about xiz
And I dont quite know why remembering fg exists helps
And I dont quite get what you mean by the if/when questioning
I dont quite to a lot of things I guess

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This is my first game with syhto so i have absolutely no idea when it comes to difference between now and however long ago it was when they played more.

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i mean i did post about it if you actually wanna talk about it

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I mean I'm in the same boat but meta reading is a crutch anyways tbh

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ok im home now

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With all the jokes about trigger phrases, telling me I used to be better will never not bother me regardless of whether or not the person Is better/worse than me and regardless of how well i have been/am playing

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I did reply, and I think while theres a chance I'm being a bit hard, you're kinda being a bit hazy about your implications regarding it but that's neither here nor there
Is your verdict that she's ultimately null then? Does that push her into the upper half of wolfiness or the lower half of wolfiness in this game so far?

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meta reading is dumb and honestly I'm not trying to be anti-town or anything, I will say I don't think I was trying to shrug off pressure, in any way shape or form. I really shouldn't post at work because,

a) I'm already irritated at work
b) I can't navigate the forums or type effectively enough to respond to anything pressing

so sorry about that

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lol ninja'd ok

the xiz thing is like, i think it's weird that on our hypothetical wolf team you're saying i distanced from you but not him

i'm asking, what do you think about syhto wanting to try to read fg correctly, after seeing her get mislynched the first day of the last two games? remembering she exists would mean it's a read she feels is important to have

thought the "if/when" was implying backpack was definitely going to get fishy at some point, and also that he's not currently

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whatever you say dude
I brought that up because that was one of the main things sunfan brought up about syhto. There's certainly looking at their posts and not previous meta yeah. But I haven't done that yet.

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yeah pretty much
i'd say upper half but that's too easy, i just don't have a lot of towns atm and am having trouble finding them and seeing where people are coming from

basically i'm unconfident and don't really see it as the slam dunk you seem to, def want development on the reads, don't mind the responses to pressure

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I think everyone gets fishy at some point or another tbh

I think you're taking satire as tragedy

I dont know if I thought as much about funnygurl as that and that sounds like a stretch by a weeeee tad bit

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I mean I dont have a slam dunk or anything either here but I definitely did just juke from a star defenseman and might consider jumping soon

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sorry meta reads aren't entirely dumb I just love putting my foot in my mouth for some reason it seems

I'll repost my reads and elaborate more in a bit. I do see how what I said could be taken as lazy/noncommittal, because they pretty much were just that; ghosts of thoughts running through my mind at that moment, not founded in anything and basically unhelpful

so that is my fault

I'll get better I promise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You dont have to apologize for stuff eh

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im just posting how I feel, I regret not being thorough but I'll use it as a learning opportunity is all I'm saying, I'm relearning how to play still

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Fun fact, its impossible to be good at twg
It's possible to be bad but I dont think you're bad based on your jtwg

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ok. Well I still don't think you are green, Cel.

I get the feeling that you are trying way too hard to seem town rn

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Meta is dumb and self meta is dumber but that's interesting because I always thought I was a natural wolf by tone when town

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The back and forth between Sunfan and ind was weird but maybe it's because I don't really understand what's going on. I'll reread and see if I come to a different conclusion.

I haven't had a chance to read to go back and compare sythos jtwg game to this one so far but her frustration seems real. I don't think it's alignment indicative though.

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this makes no sense, sensically

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I also apparently can't see what's going on with dbp and don't get it

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Syhto why am I towny

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Actually thinking about it. You agreeing with Sunfan that I'm towny is very much like your jtwg game. You tended to echo people a lot last game

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NOW you get it!

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At least cognitive dissonance makes sense and so does looking for a needle within a field of hay bales

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if you're town a part of you that you may not even be aware of is doing this because I triggered you in the turbo and you're hoping I'm wolf

^the above is a deep thought

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ngl the towniest thing about Syhto by far is that avatar its absolutely stellar

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Votes from post 5 to post 675
Night in 6:06:33
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- DaBackpack -- who_cares973, Gradiant
• 2 -- Celirra -- Syhto, the sun fan
• 1 -- blindreper1179 -- Xiz
• 1 -- Xiz -- Funnygurl555
• 1 -- who_cares973 -- inDheart
• 2 -- unvote -- Precarious, Celirra
• 4 -- not voting -- blindreper1179, DaBackpack, FreezinIce, Tps222

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I actually dont even remember what triggered me but I do remember being triggered

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i wanted to ask sunfan a question that'd get him to engage with dbp's posts

he basically said he'd be able to figure it out some later, but there was one thing he liked, which i asked him to go find, and then i questioned why he liked it

after that is him going back over the read and trying to decide whether it's good or not

hope that helps with the understanding bit; maybe you can tell me why it's weird if it still is

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Was it about blinking too much

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That was @celery

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Okay yeah that helps. It was definitely weird because I didn't understand what the back and forth was about

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You're as big of a bully as yoshl

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cel I don't feel the greatest about u either u feel pretty similar as well

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ToNe Is A gOoD eVaLuAtIoN tOol

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I didn't say t0an
I said feel

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FeEl Is A gOoD eVaLuAtIoN tOoL

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if i learned anything from physics and/or chemistry it's that qualitative measures are poor for evaluation due to lack of precision and consistency
so unless you're measuring my friction or temperature with some kind of tool then you're a poor physicist and/or chemistryist

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if you believe this then TWG isn't the game for you
I made some tea and the leaves told me you are a wolf and for that you must die

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And then we find out that xiz's hot take was right all along and this is distancing lol

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Sunfan is pulling out a lot of good reactions from people to analyze later, definitely getting a townie vibe from him.

who_cares973 asking people to explain why they view him as townie is really strange to me, I'm not sure what the motive behind that would be if you actually are town. Most of his posts seem to revolve around "explain this to me" and then "oh ok".

If sunfan is trying to make a lot of noise and accusations to draw out suspicion, who_cares is doing the exact opposite. I would like to hear who some of his top suspects currently are.

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fun fact
it's literally impossible for me and sunfan to be w/w

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it was a joke

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@tps, did you mean celirra where you said i was jumping on sunfan? or, rather, what's your take on celirra's treatment of sunfan's posts there?

i'm pretty sure "calling out" sunfan isn't what i did, because i had a rationalization for why he'd name you over any given lesser-than-active player

or if i did, cel was also there and voted pearl, and imo reacted more strongly, but you don't name him

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I can see one thing, but he should respond first

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hey sunfan,

is xiz town for not being here or something

i want to be able to parse your cel read too but i can't tell quite what or where it's coming from

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p sure sunfan's read is coming from me being funny again

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She started off throwing shade because of the way I was posting, she said it was different from the last game. We didn't interact much after that then a couple posts after Sunfan gives me a hard town lean she says I'm townie. This is odd and I wanted to follow up on that. Which she still hasn't responded to so there's that

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xiz is town because he expressed ideas (specifically a mindmeld with cel I think) in a way that he do as a wolf

sounds confident right?

not as sure as I should be but I think he's town

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uhhh, I mean I don't want to tell you and all but you're not doing something you didn't do that time

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ty for not telling me but i still think its fuckin dumb

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That mindmeld felt super fake to me because he made it seem like it was the greatest thing in the world

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Also he expressed himself in a way that he does a wolf so he's town for it?

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the man cares about what he cares about

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Not his typical mindmeld type post imo

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in a dumb way i dont like how sunfan and xiz (i think it was xiz?) both have a read on me for the same bs reason

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this whole game is dumb
we lynch people for no good reason and sometimes our feelings get hurt
but we come back

and why?
because it kills time

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but also for the fun and the friendships you make along the way! C:

#captainoptimism

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agree to disagree then

I was pretty wrong on him at first last game so u can be right here

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You know what else kills time?

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i'll be around for eod. i've been writing essays and i'm gonna haul my ass to the gym soon which is why im not... doing the thing where i post a lot

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hello

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i decided to write some words about people to see where i ended up and it was different than i expected tbh

5. Gradiant - is honestly the most inside my head, don't want lynched today for sure

11. Precarious - hasn't really played the game so all i have to go on is tone, which him not being wooden and deadly serious is lightly town indicative

9. blindreper1179 - light town? maybe? he doesn't seem to have the paranoia i attribute to his wolf game, from that one time he pushed into his partner sunfan as well as a town roundbox. don't care about him saying he wouldn't be around for the first half of d1 before-the-fact

1. Funnygurl555 - @funny there's a question for ya in here



i guess not a whole lot to look into to give much of a lean. a lot of her posts come before i feel like the game shifted into serious mode. there almost seems like an aloof uncaringness to how people perceive her in the first two points here. probably the towny side of null

4. who_cares973 - at least don't think i would lynch today; real-time chat has been fine and he's been Doing Things; the places where he had friction don't feel great (e.g. talking about...cel/sunfan as a pair and interactions between them?) but don't feel particularly wolfy either, just rough more than anything, loose ends that i feel like he'd be tempted to trim as a wolf because i know he's able to think analytically in the wolf seat

12. Syhto - reads kinda scant, not very developed as mentioned, shows self-awareness of that though. final placement pending some fleshing out of thoughts as promised

3. Celirra - he does feel kinda samey to me but that's coming off a game that broke a streak of all town rolls. i'm just happy he did a thing before the end of time tbh but that's not much to go on. read i should shore up by poking at him

7. Xiz - kinda think him and cel are a package deal now which is why he's right next to cel. wants to shut down the talk between him and wc thinking it's unproductive which is like, mild glimmer of town not wanting to take over the thread with it? posting is fairly lol xd, and i'm biased but i think some of the details he's picking on aren't indicative of anything, but at least he's picking them out

8. Anti-Pearl FreezinIce - very null; he's also in the shading syhto bloc which is just rather easy and we're kinda waiting on him

10. Tps222 - didn't understand his comment to prec's d0/d1 thing, because like, you can just look at the opening of the game for that. might get the "didn't read the OP" read? didn't get why he thought sunfan was "calling [him] out" either, or why he thought i, specifically, had an issue with sunfan naming tps, because i had a rationalization for it. also saying you'll vote within us three feels...constrained; you can lynch anyone and you don't have to make up your mind so far out

6. DaBackpack - i have a complicated read on him where him coming at me and gradi and wanting to do this baiting thing instead of being straightforward about his reads there is pretty strange, and has elements of how i think he'd play a wolf game with arbitrary team members, but even so it's...daring. he does get easier to solve as d1 ramps up and i may not want to resolve him today on account of that alone, but having what i feel are eccentric reads for the game state is a decent way at appearing individualistic. i don't think doing so is him playing the game too far beyond d1 either; i have thoughts about generalities on how people would approach the game that i can expand on, and basically i think he fits those generalities and he'd think to have Spicy Reads as a way of appearing town

13. the sun fan - gimmick is a bit annoying; i touched a bit earlier on how it could be misdirection for reading into voting patterns if he's wolfing. also think usually by now he's able to do things with more confidence than he has, but his syhto read and the perhaps now-forming cel read could be examples of that - BUT the syhto read just doesn't feel good to me either. i think him trying to get by as a wolf on d0 usually involves setting up some kind of an insurmountable wall for his favorite mislynch, and syhto could be that here, and having thread support for the lynch is helping him out. saying she feels the same as the jtwg isn't great because the implication is for that read to change, she has to just feel different, and that's only really with a fresh example of her wolfing to contrast

i think the straightforward expectation would be someone rolling wolf twice in a row should feel at least a little different between the games - either not doing the same thing that just got you caught, or switching up what just worked so you're not falling into the same motions. i'm not seeing a depth of process here to suggest that same = bad, or specific things that are bad, or that where differences may exist, they don't matter

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the new wow expansion?

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he do do them as a wolf, eh

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he was asking about D0/D1

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FYPOV me not claiming detective should be always be NAI, since if I'm a wolf there is no incentive for me to say something that yields no reward for me, yet automatically paints me in a strange light

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i'm trying to decide whether its on the fence or not
he don't do them as wolf but is this it?

I am the only person that thinks that the lead singer of Faith No More sounds like Spongebob

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you spent your first year of TWG with a trust tell whenever Yoshl asked you if you were town

many steps have been taken since then

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just to give you some perspective while I catch up

indheart had a few posts where he would make claims and then add a "?" to the end as if he was hedging his bets in case he was wrong

it read like he was making weak commitments so in the case that he was wrong he could back off of them without pushback, while still -saying things- in order to claim he brought the ideas up in the case he was successful

I honestly don't remember what I had against you, I think it was a tone thing, I'll see if I can rederive it once I finish

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I don't understand what this means