Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I don't agree

Yes, I said SK is a threat to them, but even Zenith (if he were a wolf) would see using up one of their own to out the SK when one has already died is really bad.

I mean, I guess, considering how bold Zenith can be, I can see him making a play which would turn the game into manhunt mode.

But considering wolves also don't know jack shit about if they hit a PR or not really makes a damper in this little thing.

So...

In my opinion.

No wolves have actually died thus yet if Zenith is a wolf outing the SK. Xel is not a wolf and helphelp is not a wolf in this scenario if that were the case.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

...Actually, that was the assumption there were three wolves, oops, lmao.

It still would be bad though. I don't think having one wolf dead and sacrificing another JUST to get the SK is good wolf play.

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And even then, as I ponder this at the library, they still have to consider "was it really a vest or was it a save?"

I mean, the probability of the medic actually saving is really really low and would be a waste of a one-shot (something I forgot about when I was typing shit out last night).

But that's still something they would need to take into consideration.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

And yes, this is all being based around that the mod would state Player got killed by X AND Y

And before you all get go up "Well we don't know for sure!"

READ THE MECHANICS. It doesn't flat out say it, but if the mechanics say it will make it explicitly clear on who killed who. I'm pretty damn sure that includes instances in the event kills converge on the same player.

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Alright, with all that said, I think I know what's happening.

Zenith is most likely a wolf here, like really REALLY likely. He's got a pretty huge hole to dig out of and I don't see him succeeding unless something even stupider happens this phase.

They would want to get rid of the SK ASAP, so they're willing to trade one of them to get at the SK. This means none of the wolves are dead as it's in my opinion that's extremely bad for them to waste if they already have one down.

V is most likely our resident SK due to this, but of course he can't say that because well... mechanics again. We're not lynching him this phase though, we will have the wolves do that for us. Unless... they have something else in mind? Mmhmmhmm

I mean, I guess I could see another scenario where it would be bad for humans, but I have good faith the wolves won't have that specific scenario play out because it's bad for both sides and not just humans.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Now if it was a medic save, that's a different approach and way more interesting, HEE HEE HEE!!!

But that chances of that happening on the second night are extremely low as I said that I don't think talking about it now would do any good.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Specifically, Mr. Medic, if your save was on V, don't say anything in the thread until near the end of the phase when everyone has had there say on this matter.

If ya didn't use it, then don't worry about it.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I declare page 57 "The Charu Corner"

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

God, I hope Zenith is a wolf now.

Otherwise, Zenith, when you said you're absolutely certain that V is the SK and you were TOWN.

I'mm-a be real mad at choo.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Also, as I'm typing away, I see you peeps peeking in here. Join the fun, I won't bite.

Hee hee...

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

That includes you two, Mr. dfr and SKG.

You can even still pretend to be a character in that avatar if ya want. Share ya thoughts!

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

The best thing about this new (hopefully true) information that Zenith unlocked is despite everything, I can still like V's read if he's the SK, lmao

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

It's a brand new day
My eyes are still stinging from the shampoo

botchi

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Why Botchi, If I may ask m'lady?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

We'll never know

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Now that's not very nice.

Miss SKG, this is the second day phase and it be a good idea to start throwing some opinions around instead of votes with nothing attached to them.

Don't do this and you might be the one we're gonna lynch instead hee hee heeeeeee

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Oh wow, is that cedload I see?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Be irate then because you are seemingly oblivious to me being town here

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Mister Charu, it's not very nice to lynch me either :)

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Then you shouldn't have posted about V being the SK and especially that you were certain.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Charu is suffering through huge confirmation bias on my read as a wolf

Hey Charu, news flash, you'll never be able to confirm until post-game what I am and I am town, so do you want to be in mylo faster than you expected?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Well then, lets start on why you think voting Boshi is a good move, mm?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

You'll never get your satisfaction because I'm not a wolf

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Then make a really good case on why you're certain with V?

Not that it would matter at the end, hee hee hee

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

You want a really good case?

It originated as a gutread driven by paranoia, do you not remember that V dunked everyone not long ago as the SK, using similar mannerisms and word choices that offer clairvoyance on him yet setting him up to not be a target? Let that sink in for a little bit Charu, or perhaps reread that game and understand why I want V gone.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Literally all you have to do is give us reasoning

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

oops

Vendetta

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Don't wanna :[

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

The only reason why he dunked was because people kept on believing his "no kill" shit since he really did have "no kills".

The remaining players had every right to question me and eventually lynch me to have V win that game. Still salty about it, but...

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Sorry, you're going to have to, darlin'.

If ya don't, then consider yourself discolored pair of socks that are completely different sizes from one another.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Also, this is not a good case.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you not wanna?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Hey backpack

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Sup charu

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I think I have a good idea if what's going on

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I sure hope Zenith is making a juicy case right now.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I need to decide if he made a slip or if he's just being zenith

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I agree with you that a kamikaze would be really bad if they already lost a wolf

but it could still be possible that his reveal of confidence was accidental

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

there was something I wanted to ask xiz when he gets back

Vote Count
 

Votes from post 977 to post 1160
Night in 34:53:24
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- _Zenith_ -- DaBackpack (47), Xiz (14)
• 1 -- Vendetta21 -- _Zenith_ (26)
• 1 -- Hakulyte -- rzr (28)
• 1 -- botchi246 -- SKG_Scintill (4)
• 10 -- not voting -- botchi246 (8), cedolad (0), Charu (45), danceflashrevo (0), Hakulyte (4), Red Blaster (5), reuben_tate (0), Sinistrosuede (0), tiloco217 (0), Vendetta21 (0)

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

But in the event that he doesn't make a case, I'm actually gonna help him out. Hee hee hee

So...

All of what I've posted so far is if the likely scenario in which Zenith is a wolf is actually happening.

If that is NOT happening. Well... I'mm-a scream at Zenith some more, but anyways:

The wolves would have no motivation to out the SK since they all know who it is since they're kill was blocked regardless. So ignoring Zenith at the moment and pretending he never ever posted what he did, not outing the SK and giving nothing in return to the thread is the smartest thing to do.

In fact.

I do hope that if Zenith is not a wolf here that they at least talked about it somewhat in their little secret corner. Because I can't imagine the wolves talking about it if Zenith did what he did and IS a wolf, hee hee.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I hate having down time at the library, but goodness can I focus on TWG so much better at work, hahahaha.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this... doesn't sit right with me

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Hmm...

I'm reconsidering my stance right now.

I can see a wolf Zenith here, but I can see Zenith being dummy and posting something absolutely disgusting that it would make the actual wolves go "what an idiot!"

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I think I agree with this for the moment

I want to hear more about botchi

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

The mylo part?

Yeah, I was gonna poke fun at him for it, but I decided not.

Playing with food is rude, y'know

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Oh!

Another plot thought out.

What if...

Zenith was the SK?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

But his responses thus far don't really give me that vibe, so I guess not.

It would be interesting though.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Oh... but it could be a reaction due to getting hit by the wolves.

Zenith the SK might go "Oh man, what do I do now? I got hit and they know it's me, what do I do!?"

"I know, throw shit at V, take him with me!"

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I can agree with the majority of this but I'm not a wolf.

I am doing the wolves job by locating and killing the SK, yes, because it would be extremely bad and wrong for a wolf to confirm the SK by going suicidal.

I always want to try to kill the SK first because they are harder to find because it's only one person with a factional kill, not x amount of players who share the same alignment and collectively have a factional kill (along with other abilities). imo killing the SK first is key to not rapidly approach a mylo in a fucking no-cardflip game where there is no fact on what someone is or isn't besides natural instinct and intuition.

That's why I'm doing what I'm doing, take it as you would normally I guess

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

And after I tried to save face for you.

Golly.

You must really want to die

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

If that's all you took out of that post you're fucking pathetic Charu I seriously feel the need to replace out so I don't commit suicide.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I don't need to look at the rest, but I did anyways.

Killing the SK first when you saw, as the day started, that WOLVES GOT NO KILL should've made it pretty loud and clear that one of two things happened.

A block happened or they hit a vest.

Probability dictates it's highly likely they hit the vest.

Ergo, NEXT NIGHT PHASE, wolves WILL target the SAME PERSON aka THE SUPPOSED SK

We humans don't need to do this. The wolves will do it for us unless they really do go through with the scenario that's bad for both sides.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

And you should know better, using a threat like "replacing out" or "committing suicide" is kind of frowned down here.

Just, for future reference, hee hee hee.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Or at least I frown at it.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Makilaz has replaced tiloco217 as of now

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Shirt boy is gone?

Damn, I was hoping I would tango with him again.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Wolves hitting the doctor's save and wolves hitting the bulletproof each have equal probability

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

actually, ONLY if we knew that the doctor actually performed a save tonight

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

hey i'm here reading, i told you guys i leave the tab open so i may or may not actually be there

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

hello friends

catching up on thread now, wasn't expecting to get offered a sub spot

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Exactly

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

welcome to the game makilaz

skg i understand you're new, i understand that you may not exactly know what you're doing, but we're gonna need you to be a little more helpful than voting someone and not explaining why you did it.

i'm not really sure what to make of the zenith situation, it's really awkward that he's so certain, especially because the odds of it being a medic save are extremely low compared to the odds of an sk vest popping. i don't think a tone read is why you think v's the sk.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Anything else, dfr?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

yeah, gn

jk is there something you want me to address?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Oh I don't know, is there anything more I can go into detail about Zenith? Do you agree that Zenith is most likely a wolf here? Does my almost 20 post per page mean anything to you?

How do you feel?

Are you happy about this?

Are you confused about this?

Are you unsure about this?

Where are you at, dfrrrrrrrrrrrr?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

tbh i'm still not really satisfied w/ haku's answer but oh well we'll see how my feelings develop over that as she puts out more content.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

you coulda just asked me jeez

i implied that i think he's wolf instead of vt. i don't see him just reading v's tone as sk from the start and that's it. i think he would need something else, and i don't see how the absence of a wolf kill would prove it either, because he would still have to somehow deduce that the wolves targetted v

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Heh...

Anyways, what answer did you not like about Haku?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

she was like "why dfr" and then "lazy iso'd for 30 seconds" and was like yep obv wolf

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Well, Haku did have a mother's intuition

Hee hee

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

But I see Haku now, maybe you can prod her with your dissatisfied Haku play.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Hey this is weird. This makes me think you were operating under that fact you thought there were three wolves since xel died. Maybe even since the beginning of the game. *warning* *warning*

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

i'd like to hear a case from haku and rzr, rzr wants to peer into my mind. rzr my mind is here for u. well... after it's done with calculus and jazz band practice because i have to resume school in 18 minutes.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Charu, could you possibly know there are three wolves left?!

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

can someone explain to me how that specific post would be assuming 3 wolves left? i don't see how

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

No, I wouldn't dummy