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Sorry, I meant to bold the next line

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??

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I shot you.
I didn't shoot YoshL and he died.

Therefore, Mafia didn't use roleblock on YoshL.

Are you saying that SK bypass roleblock?

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"I'm upset at how YoshL didn't roleblock himself"

how would YoshL roleblock at all?

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"1 Collective Team Roleblock" ?

btw, you can't be Town because I'm the Medic and the only person who can save you is me.

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didn't you say you got roleblocked...?

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Yeah no, did you get roleblocked or something?

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are you calling YoshL a wolf?

I literally cannot comprehend what you are saying right now

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Yes, my 1-shot vigi used on DBP got roleblocked.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

take a step back and look at what you're saying

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Does it matter if YoshL is Town or Wolf?

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I'm really confused as to what you're saying about the night actions overall

Wolves killed botchi, SK killed YoshL
You got roleblocked, trying to kill me

how are you arriving at other conclusions?

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haku can you start from the beginning because it's not just me who's confused

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xiz I see you

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At first I thought charu was the real pr, until he claimed town which messed up my two worlds. Then I thought DBP was. When DBP then started yelling at me I then realized he thought I was the real one lol.

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Why are you alive anyway?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

explain this quote for me

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I panicked, kinda like what everyone else did. Also see my post above this one.

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??

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Okay, YoshL is Town and has no roleblock.

How does that change anything?

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It doesn't

I was just really confused by your wording that yoshl had a roleblock

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I just paired you two because you were my night action + the SK kill.

Sorry if that confused you.

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just so we're clear xiz, sometime tomorrow I am going to go through our entire mutual discourse in painstaking detail and ask you explain what was going on in YOUR mind, and I will decide whether or not I want to lynch you based on the plausibility of your responses

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because in my mind, you were intentionally softing to me and me alone about a role you don't actually have

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Um, try not to do this? Like speaking out of game here, play by yourself, no hydra'n in this game.

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because there is literally no other way the two facts
a) you asserted that we had 3 wolves, and
b) "You were taking a gamble by letting me know that I was correct"

can be reconciled in any other way

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I read the gamble as "town" because I interpreted it that he was taking a risk in confirming his psychic role to me

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What's up with rzr?

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I glanced over all his stuff

I think he mentioned me

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Oh god lol. Yup. You based that logic off of me thinking that Charu was the real psychic. Remember that whole thing when charu was like "three left" or something? It was because of that I thought he was the real PR.

It was the reason I had two worlds, where charu was listed as town and one and mafia in the other, it depended on if "three left" meant he knew 3 from being partners, or 3 from knowing due to psychic. THAT's why when I said 1 between round/help, it was based off of charu's slip and I thought you saw it to, and thats what I thought you were confirming, when I said "nvm im gonna risk and change my stance to help being a wolf"

And it's because of THAT, I thought you were going to cover for Charu (at that time, before he claimed town) then I thought you were going to cover for Haku, after I tried hinting that to you, hence my whole "never voting haku" thing.

So in the end, when I asked if you knew what I mean, we both were on completely different pages.

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Am I being dethroned TWG Chaos? Fuck off it's mine.

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good fucking god

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and most likely only from YoshL

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I'm mad but I shouldn't be mad, you were doing literally the same thing I was doing and we got fucked by transitivity

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Did I answer everything DBP?
Also I'm really, really interested in rzr because I do not see DBP as scum after all that. ESPECIALLY him pinging me out so hard, wanting me to claim. I don't see how an SK or Wolf would benefit off of that.

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I did pin him as the medic after mentioning suiciding multiple times, but I was only hard defending him

good fucking god I feel like an idiot

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That got cleared for me when he was about to get lynched and claimed Vanilla Town.

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it makes sense

I'm still going to go through our chats with this knowledge, but I think it checks out

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and when Xiz was so surprised that Charu was only VT...

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alright

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What's funny was that a bunch of you agree'd with my worlds.... for different reasons then.

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Charu/Haku immutable town

I want to put Xiz up there too, but I'm not sure any of his actions are inherently towny or not --- it just "makes sense"

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yeah just read rzr's stuff, so besides being wrong about me, it's mathematically impossible for all scum to be eliminated by this lynch

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but still want to hear where he's coming from tomorrow

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

so I pretty much have no idea where we are for today

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I was just about to post that I have no idea who to vote for lol

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as boring and stupid and annoying as this is, I think we are going to have to analyze (somehow???) the inactive situation

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font, storn, ben, SKG to be precise

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granted yes will give the newbies a chance obviously

so mostly the latter people

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not necessarily lynch inactives, but we need to like make determinations on them

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to add to that, we are guaranteed final 7 at the very least

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I don't know anymore

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yeah

this isn't looking good

going to sleep on it

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what do people think of the dfr lynch? I know red blaster mentioned him not self presing but I think the votes at the end were really confusing so idk how much weight to give that

if I ignore the lack of self preservation then dfr was more likely a hit

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possibly because RB and SKG were close to kitb with him

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or he was only half-active or something

don't remember his post frequency facing the final five minutes of the phase

that's all I can think of

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this is last post

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No idea

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this is consistent with his vote an hour in advance

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

which was his SECOND to last post of the phase

it really doesn't give us anything at all to work with

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yeah actually idk now

test in 7.5 hours so sleep, I've reread everything and am proud to say that I have

nothing

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Zenith is scum. AA is town. Yay.

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so basically, he voted at 10 pm, and then didn't post again until 11 pm, so we literally have nothing

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"V's town, my reads are shit" makes it appear as though he is still putting in cognitive effort in solving the game, even within the last minute of the game

so

he either didn't realize he was gonna die, or is town

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Came back, kept reading.

Here, have a rainbow:
fontisian
Hakulyte
Rzr
Charu
Xiz
DaBackpack
SKG Scintill
reuben tate
Red Blaster
cedolad
AragakiAyase

I'm town. I believed Haku claimed vig? I liked Ryr logic at the beginning of Day 1 and his conviction today. Charu's stuff about betrayal felt a bit over the top, but the line "I want him to burn" solidified it as real in my mind. I didn't like DBP's entrance today, but I really liked the way he and Xiz just interacted. I've been in similar situations and I get how confusing softing can be.

I have no read on Scintill or reuben tate, but reuben tate is below the mod line for post count and is therefore scummy.

Cedolad had a habit of imitating other players as they came into the game thread Day 1, likely as an attempt to fit in and assuage his own nervousness. I find this trait to be more common in mafia. Finally, I think rzr's point in post 86 actually makes Zenith more likely to be scum. It indicates he probably doesn't consider N0 kills particularly valuable for information purposes, yet decided to analyze only that anyway. Zennith's reaction to pressure was also pretty awkward.

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Ew, that shade of yellow doesn't show up at all.

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I agree that cedo requires scrutiny, and we can see how storn shapes up after subbing in

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everytime sunfan names a twg game with a prophecy the prophecy like always happens

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

or the exact opposite of the prophecy happens

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

with n=2

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Oh, I forgot Red Blaster.

Didn't like the way he voted in post 248.

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fourier transform, master theorem, traveling salesman problem, computational intractability, A* search, partial order set, Chinese room argument, modus ponens, beta reduction, halting problem, first order logic, cherry pop-tarts

hope that helps

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oh yeah, and zebra cakes

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this game could use some zebra cake magic right about now

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if you know what I mean

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updated ffrtwg axioms list

1) always shoot lurker
2) xiz is never a blue

and with that, hopefully we find out more from storn and rzr tomorrow