Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I feel the same way but have the opposite interpretation, we can be good cop/bad cop

he doesn't know what he's doing so is trying to open with a power play but it backfired horribly and then he immediately excused himself

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I really don't think it's worth it to think about wolf-chat or coaching, by this point in the thread nothing has really happened, so I doubt wolf-chat has gotten to the point where they need to coordinate and coach each other

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Last bit of activity before i randomly stop posting. I just ewant to say, look at who hopped on the riot wagon and why. I see it as a potential wolf hot spot.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Why is his reads list fine if you think it's useless? It's one thing to give a townread towards someone who sparks conversation, but another thing to give a townread somebody for making a post so bad that everyone feels inclined to comment on it

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

half of his post doesn't even have any thoughts in it

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

bing

I'm interested in finding out what you think about raeko

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

command inputs are extremely efficient to program and also to play with because it dramatically increases that amount of things you can do without needing a fuckton of buttons

SF2 only had six buttons but command inputs let someone like Ryu perform 6 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 2 unique actions

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

this doesn't make a whole lot of sense but I think kappa is town for it

I still would like him to clarify on riotpolice though

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

xelnya is probably town, I don't expect him to come in with this kind of insight and focus D0, no offense

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I don't think you understand why people are scumreading you

it's not that we expect wallposts, it's that we cringe on the inside when you try to make big wallposts but everything is ass

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

??????

Kappa said the exact same thing and nobody else did and it feels super weird to see you bring this up as an excuse in favor of Riotpolice

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

riotpolice

you only brought up the engine for discussion thing after people nailed you to the cross over your bad post

your "engine of discussion" bit occurred like 20 hours after the post in question and there is no way you premeditated that

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

MML is town

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

My boy, I simply expressed it'd be a good time for our dear contestant to tell us if the offending post was for the purpose of stirring conflicting opinions or if they genuinely believe what they're stating!

If Mr. Riot is a good lad, then I'm expecting a worthwhile answer for the masses!

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

xel pretty confidently town now

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Yeah and that's exactly the problem

what on earth gave you the idea that he'd do something like that solely to stir up conflicting opinions?

normally you'd see his posts and go, huh, that really sucks, not huh, he's doing keikaku doori and intentionally making a bad post to get people talking

especially when he isn't even here to reap the harvest of the discussion

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

oh yeah I want to do this too

I have a bunch of touhou replays to beat and I'd also like to re-learn Stellavanity

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

It's not about what I believe. It's more I want it written on paper what the contestant believes.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

again the issue is that it's a tryhard post with no substance

and on top of that, his more recent posts are him acting like "I was only pretending to be retarded" which adds a level of self-awareness that I really think is at odds with the reads list during the time it was posted

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

no no no

what made you think of it as a legit possibility in the first place? plenty of people over the course of time make bad reads lists, and very rarely do you see other players ask "did you make this bad reads list on purpose?"

what made you think this was a possibility this time?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Votes from post 4 to post 260
Night in 1:46:26
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- flashflash account -- Charu (26), Funnygurl555 (23), MixMasterLar (30)
• 2 -- Riotpolice -- XelNya (30), DaBackpack (28)
• 1 -- mellon_collie -- flashflash account (30)
• 6 -- not voting -- 123kappa3 (22), mellon_collie (11), psychoangel691 (1), Riotpolice (13), Shadow_God_10 (12), SubaruPoptart (3)
• 1 -- Error -- storn42 (22)

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

this isn't a great reads list either

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I'm afraid answering that question compromises what I'm trying to established with our dear contestant. More information is needed if I am to devolve that information! And by that, I mean death!

[Gasp]

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

which begs the question, why is the action of making that post inherently towny?

is that town read consistent with the rest of his actions since then?

do you still think he's town?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

to me it's not really towny, it's just not wolfy because it's bringing attention to himself for no reason

Not if he doesn't come back and make his case

I don't think he's wolf necessarily, I just said I liked that he made that post. I never town read him not sure where you got that

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

alright I'm caught up

this seems pretty easy right now which isn't usual, but I'll let Charu do his thing

I don't get the votes on FFA, his train of thought seems pretty natural to me, esp. his thoughts on raeko

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

noted

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

he voted for me because I said I liked that someone had posted a reads list

uhh

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

And I voted for him because of his first post being a bad omen. Such is the way of events! It's true though, if you post "first", you'll be greeted with a lot of negative energy! It would be unbecoming to ignore such a sign!

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

it made sense given what everyone thought at the time

you said "I like the reads list", and FFA's assertion was that "it's sketchier to like a bad reads list than to make one," which I can get behind because there is indeed plausible deniability for riotpolice, and less for you, a more active player

I took it to mean that FFA has higher standards for you as a player than for riotpolice

but apparently you liked the ACTION of posting the reads-list, not the contents of the reads list, which undermines one of FFA's premises, making it bad reasoning now

but my point is that his mindset at the time made actual sense given what (false) information he was working with

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

This + DPB's catchup makes me feel this is DaTownBack for sure

Shit man I just complemented you too.
You can't defend his reasoning on why he wouldn't answer my question, but I'll gladly hear you out if you want to give it a try.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

cool

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I was really hoping you were joking

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I mean I'm not the dude but my guess is something like

"if you're a wolf and I tell you what I think is towny and wolfy about you, you might change your behavior"

looks like he's 50/50 on you and wants to figure you out before he says something that might prime you one way or the other

not sure why he felt the need to point out "I'm actually not going to tell you why!" instead of... just not saying anything, but my second guess is dopamine

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Mmm, I may or not be joking. Who really knows?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I took issue with raeko talking as if something was there
"he's really putting himself out there" blah blah blah

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

The things that pinged me from MML aren't wolfy unless he acts on them by eod

can I see a fresh reads list from you MML

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I get that's what he's saying, but yeah why make the comments at all? And obviously if he sees a pattern that I'm doing and I change it then it stands to reason he'll notice that too and call me out

except there was never a pattern to try and preserve at that point in the game

Like you see where I'm coming from yeah? It reeks much more of "I said a thing to just say it, now I gotta have a good reason on why I would say it"

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I don't know what reaction you're fishing for but please go put the rod up

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I still can't see you saying these kinds of things as a towny looking at that reads list

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

is EOD 5 minutes?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

this train of thought is blah blah blah

what would qualify to you as "something was there"? are we not all just trying to create theories?

do you think riot police was just shit posting here and it's all nothing?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

1. flashflash account- town
2. mellonxcollie- slight wolf
3. Funnygurl555- town
4. SubaruPoptart- null
5. Shadow_God_10- null trending wolf
6. psychoangel691- null
7. 123kappa3- town
8. Riotpolice- slight wolf
9. storn42- town
10. DaBackpack- light town
11. Charu- trending wolf
12. MixMasterLar- null trending town -> pending reads list
13. XelNya- town

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Of course not. I don't believe you'll face the untimely death this time around!

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I think the fact that so little effort was put into the list and it displays such a clear lack of thread awareness that the act shouldn't be applauded in the first place, it's just a wolfy list, the question is if it's twtbaw or not

I see you over here saying "naw it's fine you shouldn't expect much" and then shading all 5-8 of the people who called it out

which is much worse

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Votes from post 4 to post 284
Night in 1:01:41
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- flashflash account -- Charu (30), Funnygurl555 (23), MixMasterLar (33)
• 2 -- Riotpolice -- XelNya (30), DaBackpack (34)
• 1 -- mellon_collie -- flashflash account (37)
• 6 -- not voting -- 123kappa3 (22), mellon_collie (14), psychoangel691 (1), Riotpolice (13), Shadow_God_10 (12), SubaruPoptart (3)
• 1 -- Error -- storn42 (22)

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I'm more worried about seeing MML with a read list

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

"Mass Quantities"

Town Mayor: none

You're cool:

Datbackpack: your posts as of recent page 14 recent feel like they are pretty telling that you are town but are eagerly willing to kill me because of my list. Read below please.


A note: Xel/FunnyGurl: This is cute. I can easily see you both as town but are bickering with eachother.

dev/Null/no clue:


This felt weird. Dropped a peg also I only made you towny in the previous list because of the way you presented yourself and the way you post. That's literally it. I have no other basis for that. That was probably the mistake that could get me killed. Oh well, you live and you learn to not place people at towny spots on a bad list because of the way they post.

You are probably right but then again there are a LOT of town that feel I'm scummy. That being said, willing to bet the is a minimum of 1 wolf who is placing their vote on me.

MixMasterLar:

I see how your train of thought went because you felt this was a serious list. But that also begs the question: why did you feel this was so serious? Are you the one who is taking a page 3, D0 list and feeling like it is a SERIOUS threat? I just want to know more about what you felt about this. FYI I am leaning green towards you even if I did put you in grey.

My ears feel funny....

Shadow_God: You...haven't even given me a reason why you are going to vote for me....
Hasn't posted anything of value yet to me. A lot of fluff. Be careful of this one.

I eat hamndsandwiches before dawn
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I feel there's a lot of town that is hating me for my list (no shit riot, you are bad and should feel bad for being bad. Why did you come into TWG again?). Please see below.

My reads list was an attempt to get people to talk/reads on others. It was half-assed, and definitely bad. I could have maybe put in more effort into it, but again it was on 3rd page of the thread. Unfortunately it may backfire on me if I am killed today because of potential townies thinking I am a wolf. A lot more than I thought. I probably should have waited a bit longer. Honestly, my original intent was to make the list somewhat real, but at the same time I stabbed myself in the foot simply by placing it on page 3 with little info. I feel that there is at least a wolf voting for me, but I also feel at the same time the list backfired on me and I am getting a lot of whiplash from actual town; which if that is the case, I am truly sorry. Maybe I will learn better on how to open the game up in a more "towny" mindset and come into the game fully loaded instead of half cocked. Or maybe I just do away with a list mindset and just go with something easier for a D0 read. I don't know yet. I haven't been playing for a long time. I felt that a read list super early was a good idea. I know now that I am not experienced enough to make one the way I went about it this time.


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As for the way I play and my meta....I really haven't gotten any kind of meta besides I play weird as a motherf*****. I try to play in my own capacity of what I perceive is correct or maybe at least better than when I played my previous games. My personal goals of every game is this:



If I am town, be capable of convincing others that are actually town that you are town. They need to know that you are town and trust your real role as a town member. I am still learning this. I don't want the game to be boring for me, so I usually do something dumb or crazy. Even though I understand that my actions may not benefit the town a lot of times from this. You only do this by getting better and playing more, fyi.

If I am wolf, be aware of your surroundings. Find cracks or seams in the town and use town to chaotically destroy themselves. Take advantage of every opportunity to destroy the town with the lynches, as the night phase is actually where the least fun is had. A power roll lynch as a wolf or outting a power role by using the villagers to do your dirty work could not be more satisfying (which even I have not done yet).


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To tie things up: I tried giving the list idea a try, but my execution was so poor that now it feels to me like over half of town feels I am scum (which is probably not far from the truth). This is going to be a brutal lesson if I am killed over this. I have only myself to blame if that is how this is going down.


With that, I leave my vote: Shadow_God

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

It's not finished yet but oh well i gotta get something out after 2 hours of frickin' typing

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I am willing to take questions for the next hour.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

ok but you know I didn't vote at the time of you making that list right

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

wall seems fine to me actually

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I think a bit over-justification on charu flop pings me

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I'm not tryna shade anyone I'm just pointing out the pattern and saying there might be a wolf or two on there if it is in fact fake, since it had such momentum it would be easy for them to slip on

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

So I'll take this that you made that specific post for the reason of causing controversial thoughts?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

yes that was original intent.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Also, Mr. Riot, according to our esteemed overlord, Mr. inDheart-of-mass-destruction, you only have two votes. If you believe a wolf voted for you right now, who would it be?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

you didn't answer this

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

If EoD wa in 2 minutes I would vote
FFA
Riot
Kayla

Poptart and Kayla would both be the inactive votes I normally do at D0 but he's posted and Kayla's kind of done this before as wolf so Kayla > Poptart 100%

Kappa if I can be convinced that Shadow was right about him behaving like WolfKappa + knowing he's capable of more work as town + strong start then just kind of wimpering out. His tunnel on Charu is fucking gross and belies the effort he showed at the start of the phase. That said, probably not voting for him.


Wouldn't Lynch---
Raeko because she's forever null on d0 as a policy

Funny is null because I dont think she's done that much. She seems to think FFA is tunneling Raeko but for him to that he'd have to do....more then what he has been

Charu is annoying but it's NAI right now

Xel I feel is hitting that right mixture of humor and relevancy that he can do well as town, liked some of his pushes. I think unless he drops off or pushes some outrageous flawed logic I feel good about him. Honestly he has a tell if he makes late game as wolf

DPB is acting as Town DBP.

That's where I'm at ATM



That's where I'm at

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

yes hello this is me raeko

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Xel could maybe be one, but again my list was so bad it threw too many reads of town onto me. I think only time may tell when the votes start getting tossed around. Right now I don't believe either are sorry if my wall of text said they did. I didn't go back to review and edit that part before posting it.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

thanks

storn read pls

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Excellent, thank you for answering!

*ahem*

Ladies and gentlemen

We have, on paper, Mr. Riot admitting the entire reason for that post was all a ruse to get contestants to talk. I say this is untrue! I don't believe our friend here would willingly make false statements and admit it to be false without a plan to undue the negative attention.

Mr. Riot, I accuse you of being up to no good and your latest post of your real thoughts to be pandering to the good folks suspicious of you!

What say you?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

hey riotpolice

were you or were you not aware that when you called me out for a weird vote or w/e in your reads list, I hadn't made a vote yet at that moment?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Charu is leading Riot around blatantly


fucking wow

I don't buy for a single second that reads lists was made to cause conversation because his new reads ain't a step above them (He has no red reads but votes for Shadow_God? If he's worth the vote why not place him in red, or explained why you feel you don't have that strong of a scum read) (Also most people are null lawls)

Charu working really hard to give him the "starting conversation" excuse is mindnumbing to watch. He's still doing it on page 14 like what

What a farce

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

His "here's a game where wolves won when inactives wheren't hunted, therefore never hunt inactives" post gave me brain cancer. If I voted for him it would be solely for that

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Votes from post 4 to post 306
Night in 0:36:55
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- Riotpolice -- XelNya (30), DaBackpack (34), MixMasterLar (36)
• 2 -- flashflash account -- Charu (33), Funnygurl555 (23)
• 1 -- Shadow_God_10 -- Riotpolice (18)
• 1 -- mellon_collie -- flashflash account (45)
• 5 -- not voting -- 123kappa3 (22), mellon_collie (16), psychoangel691 (1), Shadow_God_10 (12), SubaruPoptart (3)
• 1 -- Error -- storn42 (22)

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Man if this had a vote I would have seriously had to eat my shorts huh

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I am drunk right now which wasnt actually intended and im sorry.

That being said DBP did a lot and is probably town. pople said I was wolf for doing the same thing I did and tbh I dont actually know what that means so go for it.

Okay so from what I understand FFA has some wierd stuff going on but DBP thinks they are town idk I dont agree I think they lean more wolf but what the fuck do I know.

Second riot has super dumb reads also is aware his reads are dumb which makes it dumber. Great job.

IDK I think i may have a blind spot for MML and shadow as town for MML and shadow as wolf so that kind o f makes me wonder. I like the way MML plays and shadow always looks like a wolf no matter how I try to look at it.


Melon collie is kind of meh I am warming up to them so probably wont vote tbh.


Charu is a piece of shit that I wish would stop memeing me to death. because I will die if you keep it up.

so i guess its between riot and FFA DBP thinks riot over FFA

im trying to figure out whether or not if one comes up town which one woudl be more useful even tho thats something you guys fault me for its still what I want to do

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

cool
so I was watching to see whether you'd end up pushing your joke thingies
where you were "morally okay with lynching" a player
if you were a wolf I think you would have subconsciously ended up leaning those players more wolf- charu, xel, and storn

which is a real thing and is one official reason for RVS to exist even though I know I'm gonna get a lot of crap for actually watching this

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

um whens eod 10pm?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

hey backpack what are you up to right now

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

yeah half an hour ish

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

So those reasons

You know the reasons you said what you said at the time, the whole I'm null for X and Y and all that

You know my actual fucking question

Am I allowed to hear it now or was that all just shit too?

Like if you tell me it's totes gonna have spoilers about the thing you just now posted right?

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I will not knife in the box but, i want ffa more then riot I think idk (i didnt read riots long post so sorry if that fucks everything up)

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I see that, yeah I fucked that up too. god dab ;__;

yeah I might not be cut out for this game. what am I doing.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

can i have vote count as well tho.

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

They say the more one resists the more deliciously satisfying it is to keep up the act!

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

I don't really understand what you're saying here but hopefully this helps

your jokes pinged me because above reason
I also didn't like how you were listed in rito's reads list it made you look pretty guilty by association
I also didn't really like the logic that "charu would never let riotpolice do this if they were wolf partners" just cause I don't like that logic, don't think it makes you wolfy
on the other hand you also didn't like how you were listed in rito's reads list
and you've been kind of sort of mindmelding with me in that regard

the thing I was hmming and haaing about is basically just that first bit, which I put more weight on than another player would

Re: TWG 190: Written in Blood and Betrayal - Game Thread
 

Read the post then, compare it to his first reads

Also if it's those too I'm pretty ok with a KitB maybe Random.org will let his lynch them both