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Skayles 06-16-2021 01:54 PM

No Steps Allowed
 
This is a public service announcement to remind people to try to remember to use "chart" and "charting" instead of "step" or "stepping". For example, "I found a really cool song, so I decided to chart it." or "I decided to make a chart for that song I heard on the radio."

This is arguably being pretty anal but we need to start making the transition to break away from the connotation of being some adaptation of a dance game, which we are not. Stepping is an action done with feet, not with fingers. Arrows matter on a pad, which indicate direction of where the button is located, but they don't matter on a keyboard when you're playing spread-style. Our community has been around for many years now, and old habits are hard to break, but I think anything that is outdated (and ultimately detrimental to the game's image) should be fixed, especially if it requires virtually no major effort to do so.

EDIT: "map" also works too, or any other word as long as it sorta makes sense

FlynnMac 06-16-2021 01:55 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
you're're a sussy baka

Charu 06-16-2021 02:02 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Lets just go back to simfile.

Lights 06-16-2021 02:05 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Its "Note Scrollie" now, and nobody will change my mind.

Gradiant 06-16-2021 02:07 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I don't care what they're called, they just have to not be trash.

Also similar argument could be made against 'chart' or 'map':
"Don't use step because that's for feet"
"Don't use map because that's for directions"
"Don't use chart because that's for representing different data"
It's overall the same stuff.

Josemba 06-16-2021 02:09 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
No Maps Allowed

Skayles 06-16-2021 02:18 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
reject terminology

return to txt

aperson 06-16-2021 02:40 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
can I get me a nice one of them uhhh ummm [12]3[12]4[12]3[12]4s please.

gold stinger 06-16-2021 02:50 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
step, stepping
map, mapping
chart, charting
simfile, simfiling

they are all interchangeable & the same, depends on which section of the community you came from. Osu & Quaver players tend to use 'map' more, ITG/PIU/pad players tend to use 'step', keyboard players tend to use 'chart'.

No, this isn't blanket permission to start treating them as profiling words, because like I said, they're interchangeable.

LeftyRighty 06-16-2021 02:52 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
i'm still in agreement that "note scrollies" is a good universal term

suicidaln00b 06-16-2021 02:57 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
for me it's stepcharm'ps

Pretentious 06-16-2021 03:04 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
stepmapping the chartfiles for the keysmash simulator game

Skayles 06-16-2021 03:19 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
every note scollie is a chart, but not every chart is a note scrollie

FlynnMac 06-16-2021 03:19 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 4189246)
This is a public service announcement to remind people to try to remember to use "chart" and "charting" instead of "step" or "stepping". For example, "I found a really cool song, so I decided to chart it." or "I decided to make a chart for that song I heard on the radio."

This is arguably being pretty anal but we need to start making the transition to break away from the connotation of being some adaptation of a dance game, which we are not. Stepping is an action done with feet, not with fingers. Arrows matter on a pad, which indicate direction of where the button is located, but they don't matter on a keyboard when you're playing spread-style. Our community has been around for many years now, and old habits are hard to break, but I think anything that is outdated (and ultimately detrimental to the game's image) should be fixed, especially if it requires virtually no major effort to do so.

EDIT: "map" also works too, or any other word as long as it sorta makes sense

lol

Gradiant 06-16-2021 03:24 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlynnMac (Post 4762742)
lol

I think Yoshl was right in the thread that was from, we should call them stepsharts
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4189249)
i sharted a shart


Charu 06-16-2021 03:28 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I knew this was a copy-paste.

FUCK

hi19hi19 06-16-2021 03:49 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762733)
can I get me a nice one of them uhhh ummm [12]3[12]4[12]3[12]4s please.

I'll have two number [12]s, a number 2[34] large, a number [124] with extra dip, a number 4231, two number [1234]s, one with cheese, and a large soda

MarcusHawkins 06-16-2021 04:32 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I can't wait to see all the note scrollies in this upcoming OT!

Zlyice 06-16-2021 05:09 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 4762745)
I'll have two number [12]s, a number 2[34] large, a number [124] with extra dip, a number 4231, two number [1234]s, one with cheese, and a large soda

I am told we're all out of number [14]s, as they have all been ordered by storn.

Wayward Vagabond 06-16-2021 08:47 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Y'all are beta troglodytes

You tell stories with the files. They are novels. When you are making one you are writing

"Dang this song would tell a good story I'm going to write a novel for it"

You fucks

123kappa3 06-16-2021 10:09 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I subscribe to files being novels i will now refer to them as novels as they tell stories. Wayward is my spirit animal.

radioamor 06-16-2021 10:27 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4762757)
Y'all are beta troglodytes

You tell stories with the files. They are novels. When you are making one you are writing

"Dang this song would tell a good story I'm going to write a novel for it"

You fucks

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's universally accepted FFR orthodoxy that Excite Bike [Oni] is an adaptation of Eraserhead

bmah 06-16-2021 10:31 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I admit I’m one of those who is peeved by people calling charts as “maps” so I was thinking if terminology could be standardized across various rhythm games so everyone from beginners to veterans from one game to another can instantly understand each other. Of course, with rhythm game communities being so fragmented from each other, there won’t ever be an International Rhythm Gaming Association or whatnot...

XelNya 06-16-2021 10:43 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4762757)
Y'all are beta troglodytes

You tell stories with the files. They are novels. When you are making one you are writing

"Dang this song would tell a good story I'm going to write a novel for it"

You fucks

bro why are you like this

Lights 06-16-2021 10:49 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
I propose we don't ruin this thread. Its a nice thread. Lets keep it threading onward without a conflict.

I appreciate your consideration mr Xx{Midnight}xX, I hope you have a nice day!

XelNya 06-16-2021 10:52 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lights (Post 4762767)
I propose we don't ruin this thread. Its a nice thread. Lets keep it threading onward without a conflict.

I appreciate your consideration mr Xx{Midnight}xX, I hope you have a nice day!

It's really not.

mi40 06-16-2021 11:25 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
chipotle with extra guacamole

choof 06-16-2021 11:29 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
map and chart are the same thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4762768)
It's really not.

buttmad

Lights 06-16-2021 11:33 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4762770)
map and chart are the same thing

Have you considered the possibility of Note Scrollie though?

YoshL 06-16-2021 11:48 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradiant (Post 4762743)
I think Yoshl was right in the thread that was from, we should call them stepsharts

holy shit I do not remember making this post

Wiosna 06-17-2021 02:41 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
i propose the new term "mart"

VisD 06-17-2021 04:03 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
hey guys check out my linguistic prescriptivism simulation guide

Funnygurl555 06-17-2021 04:52 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
*stomps around defiantly*
*neighs*

rushyrulz 06-17-2021 08:15 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
gonna take a page out of choof's book and go ahead and declare that this thread sucks.

rushyrulz 06-17-2021 08:19 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 


k I'm done now

EDIT:


now I'm really done.

XelNya 06-17-2021 10:55 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4762770)
buttmad

Cope harder.

aperson 06-17-2021 11:11 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4762792)
Cope harder.

Your other posts made me play your ODIPack3 charts and ... yikes. I don't think you're an authority on anything marting related.

aperson 06-17-2021 11:12 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Maybe an authority on inconsistently placing mini holds to cymbals

XelNya 06-17-2021 11:27 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762794)
Maybe an authority on inconsistently placing mini holds to cymbals

My argument wasnít that they were good or bad, I said the quality was comparable. If you think that, cool, thanks, but it isnít relevant.

aperson 06-17-2021 11:30 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4762796)
My argument wasnít that they were good or bad, I said the quality was comparable. If you think that, cool, thanks, but it isnít relevant.

I checked the other charts and they at least used consistent motifs. Seems like a pretty easy bar to walk over.

XelNya 06-17-2021 11:44 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762797)
I checked the other charts and they at least used consistent motifs. Seems like a pretty easy bar to walk over.

I consistently stuck to the point that itís comparable without discussing a particular comparison. My work is in well regarded packs, you cannot dispute that. I am right, and Choof over stepped. He can cope in peace. My work is arguably in comparable quality to his.

aperson 06-17-2021 11:55 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4762799)
My work is arguably in comparable quality to his.

cope

Lights 06-17-2021 11:59 AM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Goodbye nice thread ;-; saltybois just couldn't let you live in peace...

XelNya 06-17-2021 12:03 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762800)
cope

Iíll graciously await Choofís acknowledgment that he fucked up and overÖ whatís the wordÖ stepped I think is the right term.

aperson 06-17-2021 12:06 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
do you prefer Driving While Intoxicated or Sadomasochism

XelNya 06-17-2021 12:13 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762803)
do you prefer Driving While Intoxicated or Sadomasochism

Intoxicated driving is fucking disgusting and fuck the people who do it.

Elekton 06-17-2021 12:46 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiosna (Post 4762779)
i propose the new term "mart"

made the danish

aperson 06-17-2021 12:50 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4762804)
Intoxicated driving is fucking disgusting and fuck the people who do it.

you're so old you would call a mart a simfile yet that boomer joke went over your head... right after you tripped over the lowest marting bar in odipack3. are you a midget? is your posting a form of napoleon complex?

XelNya 06-17-2021 01:21 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4762806)
you're so old you would call a mart a simfile yet that boomer joke went over your head... right after you tripped over the lowest marting bar in odipack3. are you a midget? is your posting a form of napoleon complex?

Ah there it is, the stoop to my level, donít hit your head again on the way down.

Coolboyrulez0 06-17-2021 01:24 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
gamig 8)

-Tim- 06-17-2021 01:28 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 4762813)
gamig 8)

My work is in well regarded packs, you cannot dispute that.

rushyrulz 06-17-2021 01:39 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lights (Post 4762801)
Goodbye nice thread ;-; saltybois just couldn't let you live in peace...

was it tho? was it really tho?

Lights 06-17-2021 01:49 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 4762816)
was it tho? was it really tho?

We're spreading the good word of Note Scrollies. You know, deep in your heart, that this term is the only way forward.

Moria 06-17-2021 01:49 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
cool thread gamers

Phynx 06-17-2021 02:16 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Graph / Graphing

I'ma go graph some new songs guys.

Modern problems require modern solutions.

XelNya 06-17-2021 02:21 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rushyrulz (Post 4762816)
was it tho? was it really tho?

Hahaha no.

Sky Kitten 06-17-2021 02:21 PM

Re: No Steps Allowed
 
Locking this thread.

Behave, guys. Next time it will be infractions handed out.


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