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Funnygurl555 08-26-2018 01:21 AM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
so many words

Precarious 08-26-2018 01:31 AM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4646173)
so many words

Blind makes a long case

Funny: "you go Blind!"

I wish I was paraphrasing.

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4645964)
'ight. you go blind 8)

Prec makes a long case.

Funny: I could read it, but maybe then I'd have to reconsider my position.

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Seriously, at least pretend to try. Blind's case is all opportunism and one sentence ripostes to bigger ideas, but at least it's something. I know you can try, since you were doing so on D2. But was that just because you were under pressure at that point?

Funnygurl555 08-26-2018 01:36 AM

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i'm just watchin' the ltwg game rn precarious. i will try

(you should join too!!)

Precarious 08-26-2018 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645958)
He had a mind set to push sytho and claimed that.... After she flipped town. Odd to say and nothing was said on it. Wolf thoughts to look towny imo.

This particular comment of yours isn't actually scummy, because I can see what you're getting at. But you misunderstood the point of the the statement. It wasn't about Syhto so much as it was about the conversation around her.

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I still find it weird how little engagement there was on the topic—even if people were town-reading, I feel like there should have been more to it.
It felt like people brushed Syhto aside too easily--even if people were town-reading her, the case made seemed to be largely ignored. And that behavior struck me as odd; at the time, no one could have been sure of her alignment, and even if they were, why not actively engage the topic?


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645958)
Here he agrees that looking into the pool gradiant listed and looking at who voted him was a good idea to do.

Do you even read the things you cite?

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Having said that, I could be wrong about the order, to the extent it's even relevant. Gradiant's flip guarantees the reads were made in good faith, but they were also made under duress (time and looming votes). I don't really see InD or Sun as particularly wolfy, and even Funny is more a PoE thing relative to the overall player pool. But whether or not they're right, they're at least worth considering as honest assessments.

On the other hand, there's a fair amount of OMGUS involved, as two of the three Gradiant voters were also on his list.
This is the difference between your "approach" and mine. I recognized that Gradiant's list was very OMGUS-heavy--his list and his voters were almost the same. Because he flipped town, we know he wasn't trying to trick us, but he also had no special information. His list, insofar as they voted a town player, was worth considering, but little more than that.

By contrast, you argued that we should lynch exclusively in that pool of players--a pool that conveniently excluded yourself, despite having your vote elsewhere for a long, long time. But fine. People can get carried away. I wouldn't have faulted you so much for that, if it weren't blatantly obvious that you were building toward a preordained conclusion. You wolfread basically everyone in the Gradiant list--a ridiculous suggestion--and it's clear that such reads were meant to promote your suggestion. Basically, "if they're all wolves, why not lynch in the pool."

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645958)
Here he says while its a good idea, it's not the best to look only here because a wolf isn't guaranteed. Which I guess is true...

This is an outright lie. I never said it was a good idea, nor intimated that. I suggested that considering the players in the pool was a valid and relevant exercise. That should be clear from the quotes.


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645958)
Says xiz is townier than last game, even though he was on his wolf list earlier. Not much happened between while reading the ISO, that's not a good look here to me.

I wolfed with Xiz in FE. Regardless of his flip, I'm comfortable in saying that he made meaningful adjustments to his game. Did he still sound like Xiz? Of course; I'd argue most players are somewhat recognizable in how they post. Maybe not enough to guess their identities anonymously (think back to Danganronpa), but enough that they sound like themselves. Xiz was much more "Chaos Xiz" in FE than he was in this game. Look at the last couple days of FE--he was heavily invested in his jokes. By contrast, while there was some of that here, he was much more game-leaning this time around. I thought that represented a significant enough behavioral change that it indicated a town Xiz. I was wrong, and I'll keep that in mind in the future.



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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645958)
He also calls me out on my celery vote that I said I'll be changing, which is meh.

Yes, because

(1) it conflicted with your grand plan
(2) you left it in place forever
(3) you said you would change it because you were outright pressured on the inconsistency, then waited
(4) the whole plan felt opportunistic, and not even committing to it by vote immediately was even moreso. This is especially the case when your Cel vote had been effectively defanged by your stated intent to change votes. I believe what you were really doing was fishing for traction, and were afraid to commit to it beforehand.

Precarious 08-26-2018 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4646175)
i'm just watchin' the ltwg game rn precarious. i will try

(you should join too!!)

In that case, my apologies. Wasn't even aware it was going on.

I'll have to get over my fear of face cam to actually do one myself I guess.

Precarious 08-26-2018 01:41 AM

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Anyway, stopping here for the night.

Celirra 08-26-2018 01:49 AM

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I really don't like how precarious is focusing solely on blind and has been pretty much all game... feels like it's a case of having one goal in mind to meet and only needs that one goal

YoshL 08-26-2018 10:09 AM

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Votes from post 2564 to post 2747
Night in 12:51:18

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  • Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
  • 1 -- Precarious -- the sun fan (56)
  • 6 -- not voting -- blindreper1179 (30), Celirra (53), Funnygurl555 (12), inDheart (17), Precarious (12), Tps222 (2)

the sun fan 08-26-2018 10:21 AM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Precarious, I do want to say given you seem a little frustrated that I have read all of your cases/larger posts

I know blind seems odd. He will seem odd to most players that haven't played with him before. You can play TWG looking for the things you've pointed out on him, and its a perfectly valid way to play the game.

But he's never a wolf anymore. Meta is the main reason on my end, but given yesterday's EOD wagons, I don't think he can ever be partners with Xiz.

I would really, really love to see you make some posts of that caliber on another player, like inD for example.

If ur on some kind of personal mission to prove that blind does things for silly reasons when he gets emotionally charged, then I think you can understand that it doesn't really help other players very much.

Maybe you can Kill Bill pt. 2 that follow up post of yours on blind; I'd appreciate some other projects between the two of them.

inDheart 08-26-2018 10:36 AM

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i am gonna be on a boat for a couple hours this afternoon

i want funny to do something. i'll do something myself when i'm back here

the sun fan 08-26-2018 10:44 AM

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man, the dumbest thing keeps bothering me
I almost feel like Xiz was telling me I was wrong on one of blind/fg

blindreper1179 08-26-2018 11:03 AM

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I'm gonna be honest guys. I'm done debating with prec. I did want I needed to do. I didn't answer xiz because I thought he was wolfy, and I'm done with prec. I think he's scum, and sitting here debating with him doesnt help

Celirra 08-26-2018 11:24 AM

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i still think we should no lynch..........................

blindreper1179 08-26-2018 11:28 AM

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shut up

the sun fan 08-26-2018 11:34 AM

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Chill, blind. Just one notch lower is all it needs to be.

the sun fan 08-26-2018 11:38 AM

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Celery, the game of TWG is played by town during the day phase. Sleeping and hoping the scum do what u want is a recipe for disaster. The SK especially is decentivized to do what u want them to do here. And as fate would have it, it's incredibly easy for them to hit a town because you and I cannot br wolves or the serial killer.

blindreper1179 08-26-2018 11:56 AM

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I'm not mad, or being a dick per say.

I get you can't read tone through posts, so that's my bad.


It was more like the "shhuuttt upp omg whyy" kinda shut up. Not the "shut up, you're bad why do you talk".

Funnygurl555 08-26-2018 12:14 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
shut up

the sun fan 08-26-2018 12:34 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
would it ease your mind celery if Tps didn't hide tonight unless a scum is lynched today?
town has 0% chance of losing tonight if we mislynch if he doesn't hide behind someone

blindreper1179 08-26-2018 01:29 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4646253)
shut up

Fine! >=(


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