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Xiz 08-23-2018 08:46 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4645267)
One of the things she immediately latches onto is a Xiz criticism of Blind. And imo it's a valid (if minor) criticism—complaining about reading in this game seems out of place after the incredible thread length of the Fire Emblem game. I don't think that's a major point honestly, even as Blind's harshest critic, but it also strikes me as a particularly flimsy counterpoint to be making against Xiz. Partiularly when she NAI reads the next part of that section, which to me appears far wolfier. There, Xiz outright suggested that inD was lying about reading the thread—and then just dismissed that accusation with “I'm sure he'll read it later.” That's NAI, but an observable criticism is wolfy? And she also ignores the original context, which was Gradiant taking issue with Xiz's apparent unbalanced handling of a similar issue? Neither of those seem to register to her, only a slight, mostly forgotten criticism of Blind. To me, this is again overly attentive to Blind's in-thread wellbeing.

Look at the posts I made about all the dialogue between blind/funny and how nonexistent it is in relation to when that was happening as well

inDheart 08-23-2018 08:56 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Precarious (Post 4645267)
One of the things she immediately latches onto is a Xiz criticism of Blind. And imo it's a valid (if minor) criticism—complaining about reading in this game seems out of place after the incredible thread length of the Fire Emblem game. I don't think that's a major point honestly, even as Blind's harshest critic, but it also strikes me as a particularly flimsy counterpoint to be making against Xiz. Partiularly when she NAI reads the next part of that section, which to me appears far wolfier. There, Xiz outright suggested that inD was lying about reading the thread—and then just dismissed that accusation with “I'm sure he'll read it later.” That's NAI, but an observable criticism is wolfy? And she also ignores the original context, which was Gradiant taking issue with Xiz's apparent unbalanced handling of a similar issue? Neither of those seem to register to her, only a slight, mostly forgotten criticism of Blind. To me, this is again overly attentive to Blind's in-thread wellbeing.

also that was the post where xiz mistakenly had me in instead of freezin, because freezin was the one who said "i'm not reading anything before this post" and it gets cleared up in the following posts, so it's a false thing to connect to me as a thought; it'd just be the naming thing

lookin at the rest

blindreper1179 08-23-2018 08:57 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I haven't said anything to funny because she stood up. I told her to actually do something and she did.

I haven't talked to Ind, or tps, or xiz(more or less). I've talked with like celery, sunfan, dbp, and pre. That's about it. Put your baised views somewhere else

the sun fan 08-23-2018 08:57 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4645255)
I don't really know what dbp was doing, if he checked you or not. Your case for him softing you clear is just that: a case. It's not like he hid it in mystery ink and spelled it out.

Saying a stong term like "freezin never dies for the rest of the game," them a few pages later floating out a suggestion that I die? It makes your progression look unnatural

I will concede I was thinking about blinds post and it made me think you suggested controlling my shot, on reflection I don't think that's true.

I mean, if celery et al is petrified that the wolf team is you/me/tps, we can lynch and it's not horrible because u probably have a shot, which just moves another lynch forward. It's bad, and I'm not sure if ever vote for you in that scenario, but it's not as bad as lynching a blue in most scenarios.

the sun fan 08-23-2018 09:00 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Tps222 (Post 4645266)
I'm equally disappointed and suspicious of you thinking I wouldn't call out a false claim.

Considering u didn't know there was an unknown activity threshold that had to be met, I was assuming u hadn't done much reading of the op/external links in the op

FreezinIce 08-23-2018 09:02 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4645277)
I mean, if celery et al is petrified that the wolf team is you/me/tps, we can lynch and it's not horrible because u probably have a shot, which just moves another lynch forward. It's bad, and I'm not sure if ever vote for you in that scenario, but it's not as bad as lynching a blue in most scenarios.

Ehhhhhhhhh.

I guess you were thinking of it like a bastardized vigi? I mean I think I get it seems like such a flippant way of looking at it as town

Maybe I'm just feeling the pressure more cause the game would literally ride on my shot

FreezinIce 08-23-2018 09:04 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
I guess I got what I wanted

unvote

FreezinIce 08-23-2018 09:05 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
There's definitely a strange dichotomy between how careful you've been playing up till now and how casually you'd just put the game in my hands

the sun fan 08-23-2018 09:05 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4645271)
okay, prec is in the same headspace as me about blind/funny but for different reasons, which I really like, esp the funny read on the freezin progression.

also, sunfan you not reading prec's post is completely on you bud. You can disagree but please, please don't just disregard when you are so meta-strong.

I read it, I just promised him that because he said a lot of words I would respond to it, which I dont know if I'll be able to do today.

Xiz 08-23-2018 09:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645275)
also that was the post where xiz mistakenly had me in instead of freezin, because freezin was the one who said "i'm not reading anything before this post" and it gets cleared up in the following posts, so it's a false thing to connect to me as a thought; it'd just be the naming thing

lookin at the rest

can confirm ^

Xiz 08-23-2018 09:12 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
most likely will be voting blind, will probably never be voting prec

blindreper1179 08-23-2018 09:13 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4645285)
most likely will be voting blind, will probably never be voting prec

Xiz and pre wolf partners, you heard it here first.

inDheart 08-23-2018 09:15 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4644120)
This I thought it was okay. I don't really understand what about DBP's reaction made him such a townie town, but whatever.

wat

either him or sunfan multiquoted the posts between the two games to look at them, so is this saying you read that comparison and still don't get it or what?

Xiz 08-23-2018 09:18 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645286)
Xiz and pre wolf partners, you heard it here first.

can you describe why prec is wrong about you, specifically that big post? Because all you said about it was 'oh wasnt expecting that' and then a post shortly after correcting prec about something i guess i wasnt sure what.

Even if you disagree with everything at least something would be good there instead of being like 'nah'

the sun fan 08-23-2018 09:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4645281)
There's definitely a strange dichotomy between how careful you've been playing up till now and how casually you'd just put the game in my hands

I (apparently incorrectly) figured you would relish the opportunity.

Part of it is being content with that when you sign up for games; I know that I might be in a stupid kingmaker situation, I know that a vigi might shoot someone for horrible reasons and a tracker who isn't paying attention/reading enough might check someone who was already clear.

I wouldn't be happy about it, to be clear. I think we can certainly lynch wolfier people. I am mostly addressing Celery about what he should do if he is petrified of that specific wolfteam and can't get around it. I would probably argue against it, and probably never vote you there so I don't really think I'd "casually [just] put the game in [your] hands"

inDheart 08-23-2018 09:25 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4642996)
Back to real life tho. Might b be a min till u can do the thing Xiz. Smilefires is always town because I was talking directly to him.

stupid thought just while i'm on this page trying to follow blind's posts: if sunfan's a wolf he was ~always trying to do something here by using my discord/other site username in the game when like, no one else here does

blindreper1179 08-23-2018 09:27 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Prec is wrong because he's taking what i said out of context. I very obviously was direct with what i was saying. I don't get why he continues to say i pushed an issue already discussed when i wasn't even that far into the thread. He brought up shit that i've been called town for. I get using your own meta is bad, but i'm pretty much town to a T. Sun, inD, and freezing all agreed, until recently freezing.

the sun fan 08-23-2018 09:32 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645295)
stupid thought just while i'm on this page trying to follow blind's posts: if sunfan's a wolf he was ~always trying to do something here by using my discord/other site username in the game when like, no one else here does

I was kinda/sorta repping a "inD doesn't have a gun check" even though I had been in a KitB

I pretty much gave up on it though, figured the wolves would never believe I wouldn't claim on that hectic EOD.

Xiz 08-23-2018 09:33 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4645296)
Prec is wrong because he's taking what i said out of context. I very obviously was direct with what i was saying. I don't get why he continues to say i pushed an issue already discussed when i wasn't even that far into the thread. He brought up shit that i've been called town for. I get using your own meta is bad, but i'm pretty much town to a T. Sun, inD, and freezing all agreed, until recently freezing.

okay, prec took stuff out of context. you are gonna have to help me because there were a lot of things prec said and i want to make sure i know what sections you disagree with, because im not sure if i can agree with just a blanket everything.

Xiz 08-23-2018 09:34 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4645295)
stupid thought just while i'm on this page trying to follow blind's posts: if sunfan's a wolf he was ~always trying to do something here by using my discord/other site username in the game when like, no one else here does

what are you getting at? I called you smile for a while when i first metcha?


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