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MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 03:12 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyYoshiGuy (Post 4679944)
Everyone seems to trust you and your arguments sound good.

There's a flaw in your reasoning.

Yes, everyone trusts I'm town. BECAUSE I'm town, it also means I do not have knowledge of who the wolves are. The way I see this is, the more you know someone is town, the more you know they don't know anything. I'm just shooting ideas.

If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
- A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
- A lazy town

I liked you more when you were voting for gold stinger. Alas, I disagreed with your vote, but at least it showed some effort to challenge ideas (gold stinger is a hard town). You were starting to make waves.

Your tone/intent completely shifted right after my posts. It's too sudden. It's weird. It's as if you didn't believe anything when you were voting for gold stinger.

ShyYoshiGuy 06-25-2019 03:13 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 4679940)
wait, what happened to your gold stinger vote?

Heís close behind, but your reasoning is better than mine. My reasoningís just that his argument doesnít hold any bound.

dragonmegaXX 06-25-2019 03:13 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Fair enough, I kind of assumed each thought was it’s own separate thing and weren’t necessarily connected. Just wanted to clarify.

Antori 06-25-2019 03:14 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
my vote is gonna be back on goldstinger if dragon flips town cause i had gut he's wolfing
i still dont think mellon would be this inactive as wolf

Antori 06-25-2019 03:15 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
thanks for the "my takeaway"s MN

ShyYoshiGuy 06-25-2019 03:17 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 4679946)
There's a flaw in your reasoning.

Yes, everyone trusts I'm town. BECAUSE I'm town, it also means I do not have knowledge of who the wolves are. The way I see this is, the more you know someone is town, the more you know they don't know anything. I'm just shooting ideas.

If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
- A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
- A lazy town

I liked you more when you were voting for gold stinger. Alas, I disagreed with your vote, but at least it showed some effort to challenge ideas (gold stinger is a hard town). You were starting to make waves.

Your tone/intent completely shifted right after my posts. It's too sudden. It's weird. It's as if you didn't believe anything when you were voting for gold stinger.

Well Ďcuz my argument doesnít sound as good in my head now, you convinced me. Though, I mean, voting for GS was just so he would explain himself, but that didnít work, so.

Antori 06-25-2019 03:19 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
people i think are pretty town: mellon, MN
people i think are suspect wolf: GS, dragon

ShyYoshiGuy 06-25-2019 03:20 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 4679946)
If you follow my ideas blindly, you are one of two things:
- A wolf taking advantage of my ideas (because they fit your agenda)
- A lazy town

Much less lazy, much more because I have no clue what Iím doing. But I am also lazy because Iím busy.

MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 03:20 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Just realize that by voting on melloncollie you are defending her more than she could have ever hoped to do by herself, is all.

the sun fan 06-25-2019 03:21 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Sanzath (1)- gold stinger
Dragon (1)- Antori
Antori (1)- Dragon
raeko (2)- Mario, Shy

ShyYoshiGuy 06-25-2019 03:22 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 4679954)
Just realize that by voting on melloncollie you are defending her more than she could have ever hoped to do by herself, is all.

So itís a bad thing that I agree with you?

ShyYoshiGuy 06-25-2019 03:25 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
It was a bad idea the last times I forgot to say I had to go, so Iím saying it now. Iíve gotta go help move.

MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 03:39 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyYoshiGuy (Post 4679956)
So itís a bad thing that I agree with you?

It's just the last thing I expected you to do. Because it challenges the way I pictured you as I was making my vote, it challenges my vote.

I'm sticking to my guns and will leave my vote here for the moment. But I don't like this situation one bit.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys should wait for melloncollie to defend herself (I know she will) before jumping on the wagon.

MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 03:40 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
In the post above I'm talking about my vote for melloncollie, sorry for the confusion d-future peeps

mellon_collie 06-25-2019 03:50 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo (Post 4679933)
I don't think gold stinger is the wolf....
But if my earlier reasoning is correct, I don't think you're wolf either.

Really, one scenario I'm seeing here that ticks all the boxes is melloncollie

* Doesn't post a lot
* Town reads everyone (she did ask Antori to defend themself, but melloncollie never made a flat-out wolf read)
* Is the most likely to tell Shadow_God to STFU in wolf chat as illustrated in my thought #2
* I can see Shadow_God reacting within 2 minutes to melloncollie telling him to STFU


(melloncollie probably didn't use the words STFU, but you get the idea)

Your first two points are fair enough, especially about not posting. I'm hoping to get better in that regard today. I'm really not town reading everybody but I get that I haven't exactly made that clear

as for your other point, your posts are a bit dense so sorry if I'm missing something

but just to be clear you think shadow's partner told him to stop trying?

even if I was a wolf I would never ever tell my partner to give up, ever. one of my biggest peeves in this game is when people self vote or otherwise give up, I think you should always try to somehow talk your way out or at least meme rather than giving up.

I'm not sure how much I buy into that theory anyway. I think it's entirely possible shadowgod just realized his position was pretty impossible and gave up on his own. I don't think he would have needed someone else to tell him he only had four minutes

mellon_collie 06-25-2019 03:52 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyYoshiGuy (Post 4679939)
Sounds good enough. melloncollie

this post really reminds me of the antori vote I picked on earlier. obviously they can't both be wolves but they bug me for the same reason

why did one post change your mind so easily?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShyYoshiGuy (Post 4679947)
Heís close behind, but your reasoning is better than mine. My reasoningís just that his argument doesnít hold any bound.

don't you think the votes last day give us any information? what do you think about gold stinger and shadowgod voting for each other, knowing that shadow was wolf?

mellon_collie 06-25-2019 03:54 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antori (Post 4679949)
my vote is gonna be back on goldstinger if dragon flips town cause i had gut he's wolfing
i still dont think mellon would be this inactive as wolf

are there any specific posts that give you that gut feeling for gold stinger?

do you think I was lying about being away for the weekend? basically, why would my activity be different based on my alignment?

gold stinger 06-25-2019 04:03 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Just got back from work, I like what has been posted in the thread, I've read all of it, I want to post about it, but I have to go back out for about another hour or so.

tl;dr I still think we should follow the lynch order I provided, or in the situation that Raeko ends up taking the majority vote because of MN's big dick reads I am ok with swapping Raeko & Sanzath in the lynch order.

I'll post more in-depth when I get back, just going to the local bank to do some banking.

MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 04:07 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4679961)
but just to be clear you think shadow's partner told him to stop trying?

even if I was a wolf I would never ever tell my partner to give up, ever. one of my biggest peeves in this game is when people self vote or otherwise give up, I think you should always try to somehow talk your way out or at least meme rather than giving up.

I'm not sure how much I buy into that theory anyway. I think it's entirely possible shadowgod just realized his position was pretty impossible and gave up on his own. I don't think he would have needed someone else to tell him he only had four minutes

You read that right. I think his "I'm outtie" post reads like there was some external intervention. I mean, just two minutes before that, he was still scrambling, trying to find anything to incriminate gold stinger.

Gold Stinger looks good, but I don't think he looks perfect. Considering at least 2 people voted/wanted to vote for him this phase, I think Shadow_God could have found something, anything, to sway them at the last second.

So we're back to square one. Either Shadow_God was told "you're going to make us lose, stop it!", or he gave up himself.

That doesn't seem like him, though. I truly read Shadow_God as someone who would fight until the end to a fault.

It's interesting that you say as a wolf partner you would never tell your partner to give up, ever. I guess I'll put on my archeologist hat and see what I can find. I don't want to, though. ugh lol

MarioNintendo 06-25-2019 04:09 PM

Re: jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4679964)
because of MN's big dick

**** YES


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