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Celirra 08-22-2018 10:09 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
i might be very drunk tomorrow if i decide i dont mind being hung over for work on friday

blindreper1179 08-22-2018 10:32 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
If you drink, I'll drink and we can strip for each other on cam.

Celirra 08-22-2018 10:35 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
oh

inDheart 08-22-2018 10:40 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
sry i zoned

am vt

i did make my "if i die" post hoping it'd bait a nk tho based off having vaguely mechanical-looking info there

Precarious 08-22-2018 10:47 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4644644)
Try to find anything else if i'm such a wolf bro, come get me.

As you wish.

On D1, Blind basically did nothing. This is somewhat excusable, given his stated work on a film, so it's not really a black mark against him imo. But at the same time, it's also nothing that attests to any towny likeliness. It's just a NAI void.


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On D2, Blind brought this up:

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643092)
Even though gradiant was vanilla, i feel we should lynch in his pool, and by that i mean the people who voted for him and the people he said we should look into.

N.B.: The Gradiant list is the group of players suspected as possible wolves in his last testament, namely DBP, Sun Fan, inD, and Funny. It also includes the players who voted for Gradiant, but all Gradiant voters were already on his list.

I'll start by noting that this conveniently creates a pool which doesn't include Blind, thereby exonerating him of all lynch risk on D2. But that doesn't mean it's not a valid suggestion. However, Cel immediately hopped on another Blind inconsistency.

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Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4643093)
And that's why you voted me right

This was due to his vote on Cel slightly earlier.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4642960)
celery

Blind's response was of course to dismiss any possible significance of the behavioral inconsistency.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643094)
No. That was mostly a i don't like your vibe. But I'll be changing, don't worry.

I didn't like this yesterday either; Blind crafted a conveniently self-serving strategy, even though his own behavior didn't affirm it. This is even further borne out by his absurd evaluation of the Gradiant list.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643107)
Im agreeing with you on dbp. Although his push towards gradiant had a good theory, i think he put too much into it.
Fg just says she's wolf, ok bye no matter what. And everything she's said is blah.
InD and yourself know what and when to say it, so i'd have to iso you guys for a more confident answer. But right now i'd go wolf, but i don't necessarily see you guys on the same team. Killing one gives the other imo.

According to Blind, DBP is a wolf (oops), Funny is a wolf, and at least one of inD and Sun is a wolf. Setting aside the extreme unlikeliness of Gradiant's pool being so perfect, that's 3+ wolves. Why was he voting Cel again?

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643206)
You had one reason to lynch gradiant, but you didn't give reasons not to. You took one thing you didn't like and went gung ho on him.

This was apparently his reason for suspecting DBP. Which is, as he might put it, flimsy. This isn't much of a problem, merely an overzealous reading on his part. In isolation, I might even read this particular post as towny. But as part of a scheme to wolfread an entire bloc? It feels constructed.

This is even more the case when one considers that Blind's immediately previous post described DBP's case against Gradiant as a "good theory." I guess happening to be wrong in spite of a good theory is enough to assume someone's wolfiness in Blind's eyes.


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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4643150)
In b4 wolf team is precarious/blind/tps actually lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643208)
You can at most be right on two of those.

Xiz throws out a joke post about low activity posters and Blind immediately feels the need to distance himself. He has no capacity to shrug it off as a joke; neither does he exhibit any willingness to actually consider myself or Tps as wolves. It's just "get away from me, I'm not a wolf!"


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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4643156)
Everything coming out of xiz is registering as white noise

? ? ? ?

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643209)
Mostly. It's like he's that porn channel you tried to watch as a kid and sometimes you'd see something relevant like a boob but most of it was static.

Here, he immediately turns on Xiz. This is relevant for multiple reasons.

1. Xiz had been pushing Blind, calling into question his DBP scumread, and lightly speculating about a Blind-included wolf team. This is vaguely OMGUS, especially since

2. He neither came up with the read on his own, nor contributed anything to it. Freezin makes an observation that Xiz has been forgettable, so Blind immediately latches on.

3. Whether or not this qualifies as full on suspicion of Xiz, it comes after having fully numbered his wolves (convenient) in the Gradiant pool--while still having his vote on Cel.


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643210)
Self meta self meta self meta self meta

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643211)
If you think tps did the kill, what is the reasoning? Pr hunting? Safe kill? Fear kill?

Here, he calls out Sun for self meta reading. This is valid, and of course Sun is in the Gradiant group, so this at least is internally consistent. But it still feels scattershot. Rather than scumhunting, he's grasping at every straw he can find, without analyzing, interpreting, or even value-assigning.

In fairness, though, his next post did stay on Sun Fan, pressuring him for information, which is internally consistent with building a case (or at the least suspecting) Sun.


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643243)
I gave you time, but this is wolf posting 101 without any posting afterwords.

Directed at me. Reasonable given my absence at the time, honestly. I don't like the "I" divorced from the greater group though.

...Oh wait, he's just echoing someone else's read again. 24 minutes (and only one intervening post) before his post:

Originally Posted by Precarious View Post
Okay, I'm free from my real life obligation now. Catching up.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4643231)
congrats

Funnygurl had already made the observation; Blind once again sheeps someone else's work. But maybe that's unfair; it's not his fault I was taking a lot of time to catch up, nor his fault that someone else had pointed that out. However, when it clashes with his pre-arranged reads, his scam gets scrambled. When inD pursued this point, this happened:

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Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4643251)
hey blind who are prec's partners

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643256)
DBP and ????

So, it's me, DBP, and ??? Great, I guess he'll be voting DBP then, since they were in the Gradiant group.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643264)
the sun fan

Never mind then. The thing is, he could have easily included Sun in his previous read, replacing the ??? gap, and no one would have called him on it. But he didn't--and there was only one intervening post between Prec/DBP/??? and the Sun vote. In fairness, that post was by Sun, which might have swayed Blind's vote--but why not include Sun previously? He was already pressuring him and already wolfreading him. Why not include him, unless he had forgotten about him somehow? And indeed, why had he waited all these hours to change his vote, when he had been wolfreading lots of people all day?

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643267)
I understand you're not sure whether to place people here or there. But the iteration of it in the thread seems like drilling. I don't like it.

He stays on Sun. This is about the only strand of consistency to his thought on D2 to this point--but that it exists at all is a good thing. Although I'm not quite sure what he means by drilling--maybe tunneling? Although that doesn't really make sense in the context of that sentence...

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4643268)
...what?

Neither does Sun, I guess.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643270)
it·er·a·tion
ˌidəˈrāSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
the repetition of a process or utterance.


drill1
dril/Submit
verb
cause (someone) to learn something by repeating it regularly.

Oh, come the fuck on dude. You're the last person who should be complaining about people not following what you're saying, Mr. I-don't-know-what-a-Freudian-slip-is-and-I-can't-be-bothered-to-Google;-also-I-don't-read-long-posts-but-comment-on-them-anyway.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643297)
Cluttering the thread. Remaking a point we already get. Not developing. Provides a false presence.

Remaking a point? Providing a false presence?

Um, projection much?


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After that, he has one bit of banter with DBP...and then the What What What... comes. I'm not going to rehash that here, but refer to about half my posts if you've forgotten!


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643528)
Can you not. Actually do something instead of saying


"I'm a wolf lululululul TREVOR haha"

"Gais, i'm not wolf don't kill me ='("

Be relevant.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643532)
funny

/not


This is fine, actually. Wondering where his commentary on FG, who he had wolfread way, way earlier, was all day though.

After this, he was mostly absorbed in discussions with me regarding our Thunderdome. I'd forgive him for that if that whole sequence hadn't been wolfier than Remus Lupin on the full moon.


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Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643689)
Copy and pasted from wolf chat-?

Directed at DBP. He's been mostly consistent with his Gradiant list reads, so why hasn't he pushed that theory again? He then votes DBP after the latter claims to "use big words sometimes"--I guess that was the dealbreaker?

And that's Blind's D2.

Why are people town reading him again?

inDheart 08-22-2018 10:54 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
ok so like, when blind said this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4643522)
This is flimsy at best. Only the top 2 have one less wolf. (6 and 7 T's.) I get the chances, but I highly doubt we rolled that.

i thought he was saying 6 or 7 Ts was low% enough that it wasn't worth considering, and that's why i went and ran the numbers

idk when i read his posts i think there's space for him to think the MS original setup is in play, but also think you're saying something useless, prec

inDheart 08-22-2018 10:56 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
that isn't supposed to be a town case, in response to your question, i'm just ??? on this bit

blindreper1179 08-22-2018 10:59 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
well well well, I actually didn't expect that. Well done.

You're still wrong though.

blindreper1179 08-22-2018 11:01 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inDheart (Post 4644781)
ok so like, when blind said this:



i thought he was saying 6 or 7 Ts was low% enough that it wasn't worth considering, and that's why i went and ran the numbers

idk when i read his posts i think there's space for him to think the MS original setup is in play, but also think you're saying something useless, prec

This is what I did mean. I was saying that even if we were using the wiki. 6/7 T's were very slim of being used, so it'd be safe to assume 3 wolves. Like I said, he's taking what I said and flipping things around and using them to his advantage. He keeps thinking I've done some sort of slip, but I haven't....

Precarious 08-22-2018 11:08 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Per the massclaim, I claim VT.

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:12 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
oh a massclaim

vt

the sun fan 08-22-2018 11:22 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
massclaim:
freezin- Vengeful
sunfan- vt
cel- vt
blind- vt
inD- vt
Xiz- vt
Precarious- vt
Tps-
fg- vt

flipped roles:
Gradiant- vt
Syhto- vt
who_cares- vt
DBP- Gunsmith

current setup:
Vengeful, Gunsmith...
KRRTTTx

assuming no additional roles:
KRRTTTT

TTTT = Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia JOAT, Serial Killer

the sun fan 08-22-2018 11:23 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
and now we wait on TPS

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:30 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4644329)
@Funny:


But that was one of my arguments against you with sunfan homie, back when you were convinced that sunfan was a misslynch directed in both of those other scenarios. now ya using that against me like that? big :thinking:

what goes around comes around

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4644330)
It felt really, really out of place from your reads. Can you talk about why you swapped again? Because if you actually had a legit reason i missed that completely

I swapped because w_c was just sitting there watching the EOD happen. He was clearly there because he was posting. It was shady, man.

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:32 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4644337)


U SURE BUDDY lol

i love the thinking emoji this made me lol

the sun fan 08-22-2018 11:32 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Precarious I feel like someone owes you a fuller response to that post so I'll try to do that tomorrow, purely from my POV though

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:33 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4644351)
There arent enough z's in the alphabet

LOLOLOLOLOL

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:41 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4644479)
the original goal was page 293 but then xiz isn't shitposting like i hoped he would and charu and haku arent here to apply a multiplier to the post count

LOLOLOL

did celery all of a sudden acquire a wolf slot

Funnygurl555 08-22-2018 11:51 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
i got nothing else to add here

precarious drilling into blind like this looks town. i mean i disagree w/ it because blind's pretty townie to me, but still.

Precarious 08-22-2018 11:56 PM

Re: TWG CLXXX - OuO what's this? [Game Thread]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4644836)
precarious drilling into blind like this looks town. i mean i disagree w/ it because blind's pretty townie to me, but still.

People keep saying this. Can someone please enlighten me as to why? Because if you couldn't tell from the post above, I don't agree.


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