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ledwix 08-15-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrusizer (Post 4740306)
So first you say this, and then you give a clear example of 'sexist power structures' while simultaneosly claiming that they don't exist.

Please cite where I gave an example of a "sexist power structure." All I did was state facts about people's chosen behavior.

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I know how much people like you love to jerk off 'individual decisions' and somehow believe that libertarian free will exists, but it's simply a fact that people make decisions for a reason.
No, I don't believe "libertarian free will" exists. Don't put words in my mouth.

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If you grow up in a society where women are almost universally viewed as objects to be won and men to be emotionless workhorses, of course you're probably going to hold those views yourself.
So the reason people make decisions is because of their environment. Okay. But what else? You're painting individuals into a viciously powerless corner, in which case, individuals basically don't exist in any meaningful way. Following that reasoning, there is nothing BUT the environment, in which case, there ought to be no grievances about "sexist power structures," since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature.

Isn't an individual him or herself part of someone else's environment? And that share of someone else's environment, in itself, carries an incremental weight in their decision-making process. Thus everyone literally has a slight bit of power over everyone else. It's a matter of whether one chooses to opt in or out; cooperate or defect. Why squander such power just to win an argument about how hopeless and powerless one is? If you're like to rise above, then rise above.

Walrusizer 08-15-2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)
Please cite where I gave an example of a "sexist power structure." All I did was state facts about people's chosen behavior.

That "chosen behavior" is what I am referring to, just like how society "chose" to be racist in the 1800s. If you semantically don't want to consider this to be a 'power structure', fine, I guess, but the effects are the same.

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)
So the reason people make decisions is because of their environment. Okay. But what else? You're painting individuals into a viciously powerless corner, in which case, individuals basically don't exist in any meaningful way.

Yeah, people are very largely products of their environments, and I don't mind acknowledging this fact even if it makes you feel bad. Exceptions obviously exist, but they're called exceptions for a reason. I'm not sure if you're trying to hint at genetic factors, but I'll assume not for now because responding will take effort and envioronmental factors obviously very significant regardless.

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)
Following that reasoning, there is nothing BUT the environment, in which case, there ought to be no grievances about "sexist power structures," since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature.

Truly a brilliant revelation! If slavery is a product of environmental factors, there ought to be no grievances about it since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature!

This almost reads like something one of the street preachers I sometimes walk by would use as an argument against atheism. I actually don't even really know what your point is unless you're hinting at some wierd ass religious/spiritual or fancy free will shenanigans.

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740429)
Isn't an individual him or herself part of someone else's environment? And that share of someone else's environment, in itself, carries an incremental weight in their decision-making process. Thus everyone literally has a slight bit of power over everyone else. It's a matter of whether one chooses to opt in or out; cooperate or defect. Why squander such power just to win an argument about how hopeless and powerless one is? If you're like to rise above, then rise above.

Okay, then let's just tell everybody to stop being sexist and that will solve everything. Join me in the good fight, fellow feminist!

TheSaxRunner05 08-17-2020 11:04 AM

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I just came here to shitpost on Ben Shapiro

Wet P-word

Ben: Is this a ... medical condition?

DossarLX ODI 08-17-2020 12:06 PM

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What amazes me about these productions is how the video has so much effort put into it but the song itself is bland.

Gravity Kitten 08-17-2020 12:50 PM

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i need some pussy

wet succulent dripping honey suckle-like sweet marinated dark skin smooth waxed pussy

i shant even penetrate it. i just ponder at thy glory

trumaestro 08-17-2020 01:49 PM

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wet-ass pussy?

wet ass-pussy?

:?

Coolboyrulez0 08-17-2020 02:15 PM

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bussy

ledwix 08-17-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrusizer (Post 4740432)
That "chosen behavior" is what I am referring to, just like how society "chose" to be racist in the 1800s. If you semantically don't want to consider this to be a 'power structure', fine, I guess, but the effects are the same.

Then define a power structure as any detected source of influence or force imparted throughout a group of beings through which a response is given. So things only have power over you to the extent that you let them have power over you, since you ultimately must make a decision as to how you will respond. Thus if you still let them have power over you, you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

The exception is when physical force is used, which isn't the case in the vast, vast majority of "sexist grievances" uttered today about how people feel that they are expected to act or dress a certain way. Well expectations in those regards apply to everyone. There is nobody who is seen without being predicted, guessed, or stereotyped as being about to act in a certain manner that is specific to perceived characteristics.

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Yeah, people are very largely products of their environments, and I don't mind acknowledging this fact even if it makes you feel bad. Exceptions obviously exist, but they're called exceptions for a reason. I'm not sure if you're trying to hint at genetic factors, but I'll assume not for now because responding will take effort and envioronmental factors obviously very significant regardless.

Truly a brilliant revelation! If slavery is a product of environmental factors, there ought to be no grievances about it since we are all one harmonious cycle of energies within nature!
It's interesting that you just debunked yourself, unwittingly missing the point entirely.

If everything is largely just environmental factors, then one can't even find racist people morally culpable for their actions, as they're just following the herd's traditional practices, which, being the default position, leaves them morally unscathed. "I was just following orders."

In fact, you literally can't even transition from a land that practices chattel slavery to a land devoid of chattel slavery if there are only "environmental factors." You would only have steady-state slavery for eternity. To achieve abolition, some individuals still, at some point, have to consider their own principles, independent of environmental circumstances, to transcend the herd and strive to bring forth the very collective they hoped for.

One's internal brain state is in fact part of every other observer's environment, so one might as well use it.

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Okay, then let's just tell everybody to stop being sexist and that will solve everything. Join me in the good fight, fellow feminist!
Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.

choof 08-17-2020 04:28 PM

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giving way to another WAP which stands for Wack Ass Post

mi40 08-17-2020 06:17 PM

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the only succulent thing i need right now is a succulent bowl of steak bowl from chipotle (extra steak and fajitas)

mellonxcollie 08-17-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740550)
Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.

lmfaoooooooo

yo man im awesome 08-17-2020 09:35 PM

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to the windowwwwwwwwww to the wall

yo man im awesome 08-17-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0 (Post 4740547)
bussy

thank u for this representation

Mollocephalus 08-18-2020 03:10 AM

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This video is what gamers would describe a "bruh" (as in brother) moment

knuckles2224 08-18-2020 04:09 AM

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Song is trash, video sucks. too. Watched it once to see what the fuss was about.

I'm annoyed cause i know girls gonna be at house parties playing this lame as song saying "there's some hoes in this house" -_- mood already killed

choof 08-18-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by knuckles2224 (Post 4740605)
Song is trash, video sucks. too. Watched it once to see what the fuss was about.

I'm annoyed cause i know girls gonna be at house parties playing this lame as song saying "there's some hoes in this house" -_- mood already killed

For Real Bruh These Basic Bitches Ain't Shit
why the fuck are you going to house parties like this at 29 years old anyway

Funnygurl555 08-18-2020 10:59 AM

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there's some hoes in this house

there's some hoes in this house

aperson 08-18-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ledwix (Post 4740550)
Then define a power structure as any detected source of influence or force imparted throughout a group of beings through which a response is given. So things only have power over you to the extent that you let them have power over you, since you ultimately must make a decision as to how you will respond. Thus if you still let them have power over you, you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

The exception is when physical force is used, which isn't the case in the vast, vast majority of "sexist grievances" uttered today about how people feel that they are expected to act or dress a certain way. Well expectations in those regards apply to everyone. There is nobody who is seen without being predicted, guessed, or stereotyped as being about to act in a certain manner that is specific to perceived characteristics.



It's interesting that you just debunked yourself, unwittingly missing the point entirely.

If everything is largely just environmental factors, then one can't even find racist people morally culpable for their actions, as they're just following the herd's traditional practices, which, being the default position, leaves them morally unscathed. "I was just following orders."

In fact, you literally can't even transition from a land that practices chattel slavery to a land devoid of chattel slavery if there are only "environmental factors." You would only have steady-state slavery for eternity. To achieve abolition, some individuals still, at some point, have to consider their own principles, independent of environmental circumstances, to transcend the herd and strive to bring forth the very collective they hoped for.

One's internal brain state is in fact part of every other observer's environment, so one might as well use it.



Unfortunately, you haven't nailed down any coherent "sexism," which you implied is against women. Most of what I'm seeing is people imagining things and then giving into the very system they claim they want to transcend. To hold women fully morally inculpable for their decisions despite making half the aggregate daily decisions makes modern feminism seem like true sexism that disempowers the very people in question.

Is this post some sort of roleplay written by john calvin and michel foucault's sentient cumshit.

choof 08-18-2020 03:50 PM

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ap check the wip thread


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