Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

This is important. Totally missed this at first but he brings up a really good point. I might just be a "Beautiful Dreamer" here, think of how town xel would react to zenith's statement here. Xel is known for having unconventional thoughts, but this totally fits his normal town mindset.

I almost wanna swap my vote to zenith but I still want more votes on helphelp and make him "Twist and Shout" first.

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"In Spite of All the Danger", here is a super hot read.

If zenith is a wolf, redblaster is not on the wolf team with him. It's the classic rule of the 2nd name listed.

(if you dont follow, let me know i'll describe)

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

can you explain that logic xiz???

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Yes. "With a Little Help from My Friends", this is a good way to catch some easy wolves.

Usually novice wolves will give a list of three people who either they want to ping out, who they think are wolves, or people who are of interest to them. Usually, they will place their partner as the #2 name out of 3 or 4 total to blend in. I'm positive everyone here as a wolf has subconsciously done this before. It might not seem like much but actually it's very telling. If I catch someone doing this, and start to pressure but really not do anything to their target like voting or hard pressuring, then I will end up voting for them "Eight Days a Week".

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Fuck me. I meant to say he "is" on the wolf team. "I'm a looser" my bad.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

also is should not be in quotations either ignore that lololol. Shit this is hard. About as hard as "A Hard Day's Night"

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Xiz wolfy

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5 pages k ready go

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

This is true but almost impossible to actually reason upon

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Well, on day 1 at least

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Is this based on neutrality?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Or commenting on generalizable facts and such

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Also will point out there is a unidirectional link from xiz->xel atm

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I'm reading v town fwiw

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Still think nepnep is a wolf

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Almost no player judgments, a lot of commentary, and prodding inactives

The trifecta of scumtells

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

We need reads from him

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

That said the other new players are in this camp, but his volume of posts is much higher

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Huh?

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rzr
Town. I believe he's genuinely trying to solve the game. Plus I don't think he's a wolf because he's been relaxed throughout the entire game. Him changing up his playstyle is letting him clear his mind and make more contributions I think.
Red Blaster
Null. He's usually a lot more active, maybe he's busy or something, idk what to make of him yet.
Vendetta21
I'm not really sure how to read him. I would generally read him scum but I've heard that he's typically a more aggressive player, and I trust DBP's read on him a lot more than mine. He's had more experience playing with him and at the same time I read him very townie, so if he's thinks v's town, I'll believe it.
tiloco217
I expected a lot more than I'm getting from him, pretty null.
helphelp11
I think there's wolf in SKG/help, help's more believeable to me. Especially how he tries to pressure SKG into giving information, people call him out on it, then he retracts moments later in order to save himself face, and it leaves him scummy.
Sinistrosuede
Really really null. Shows up, promises contribution, contributes nothing so far.
SKG_Scintill
Town...? The problem with SKG is that he plays a character. And that's all fine and dandy, until you pika pi it to death (refer to Xel in TWG Smash Bros.). He mentions (or someone did) that Charu plays a character and no one gives him flac for it, but the problem with that is Charu's usually productive while playing the character whereas SKG has done nothing productive. I'm left to POE to give him a town lean because I think the help/SKG interaction is w/v, and I see it more often in my mind that help is the wolf rather than SKG. Also I feel like SKG's noncontributions could be attributed to the fact he's never played a game of TWG before, and I can relate to how he feels, and I think it's genuine.
cedolad
Town. He was pretty hypey at the beginning of the game, excited to play. I liked his tone, thought it was very towny. However now that the game has started he's been quiet but I haven't seen him in thread at all so I'll assume IRL stuff, hopefully he'll be back for EOD.

I was making the list but I only got this far, I have to go for now because my parents want me to get rest instead of sitting at the computer. idk if I'll be back EOD because feeling pretty bad and might be sleeping by then. If I'm not dead by a reasonable time near EOD I'll try to contribute more. I wanna see what sinistro has to say, hopefully he'll be there. Other notable things that I hope will come would be SKG not just playing a character but providing input as well, and also helphelp as he's top red so far from the reads I got to actually compile.

See you guys hopefully tonight, I'm gonna medicate and rest.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

How guilty are you dfr?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Huh that's a fun thought

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

In fact, that'd be hilarious.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

What's a fun thought, sweety-pumpkin?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Is this game kill or be killed?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Always is, and always will be, hee hee hee

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

So what's a fun thought? Was it that post?

Because if so, wow...

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Nah gonna back burner it for a bit

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I'm working on it.
Also, does anyone know how to isolate posts to a specific person in thread?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Click on the number of posts in the thread

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Hi

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

In the 500 or so posts since my last has anything actually happened or can I assume it's all bs and not read it?

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I got a lot of null reads right now. Doesn't help that I have no way to use meta reads on anyone so all I can really read is reactions and even that is sketchy. helphelp v. SKG and V v. DBP helped a lot though.

I think that helphelp v. SKG is tvt. I don't think that SKG would lean on his character as much as he is if he was wolf, at least not as a new player. helphelp I'm less sure about but I don't think he would back off of SKG so quickly as mafia. As mafia I think it's easier to keep blindly pushing until they either have a good response or die.

I'm pretty sure that V v. DBP was tvw and that DBP is the mafia. The way he was asking for V to give more information was like "Bro, I know your town but I can't just follow you blindly. Now I think Xel is town but if you say the right things..." Seems to me like he wanted to side with V to start a train against Xel but didn't want to just flip his reads. It got even weirder when he said that he didn't even have a town lean on V and that he the way he reads V is when he offers up more information then he needs to. If that was what he was looking for then he wouldn't try to force him to give out the information. That makes V and Xel town by association but I don't really have a read on either of them.

I also remember thinking that Haku was town when I was reading the thread last night but I don't remember why at this point. I'll look back through his posts at some point before EOD tomorrow.

I'll probably be here the rest of the night so feel free to ask some questions.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

well you guys took too long so I'm gonna play don't starve together instead

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Tiloco, what do you think of Charu's playstyle compared to SKG's as they're both putting on a "character?"

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Tiloco thinks helphelp is not scum here, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I feel like this is somewhat forced, especially when you take into consideration benguin answered less than a minute ahead of me.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

How funny, I feel like all of your posts thus far have felt forced.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

What's a force?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Now your former post seems a bit out of character for you, and the latter post is jokingly asking what you should already know.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

What should I know, buddy?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

You should know how to play your character. Observe:

In the first two quotes, when saying something serious it has a bit of sillyness to it. However, the third quote's beginning seems sarcastic and then it seems you try and cover it up with some sillyness, which would explain the self-contradiction.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

...And this is a problem, buddy?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I think charu playing a character is much less alignment indicative. A few people have already said he always plays a character and seeing him in live twg I expected nothing less. Also he's not a new player

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I'd slap you if I could :[

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

What do you know, shirt boy?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Hello madame, can ye kindly express some thoughts for the court?

Mmm, yes, quite, poppy-cock really.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

All of you are being so mean to me and I JUST moved here :[[[

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Tiloco town

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Good to see people posting, tiloco and helphelp. I'm reading things watching but on phone for the weekend :/

I think if skg doesn't attempt to break character or at least be productive he is an excellent start

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Would kill DBP today

Would also kill xelnya or dfr

When is phase over I see no vote counts

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

why dfr

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I thought EOD was tonight lmao. iirc greg was having troubles with the automatic vote count so once that gets resolved..

i suppose i'll work on the reads list more

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

why

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Tone, it's all tone reads

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

This one should be obvious

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This is a genuine post from a new player. I can't find any hints of fabrication in it

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I don't care if it's obvious you still should say it so we can tell where your mind is

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

EOD is tomorrow night at 10

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

as a general rule

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

what do you think about helphelp

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

It's day one and these are tone reads done quickly because I'm busy, don't get on my fucking case about theoretical best practices you dreamed up I'm a way fucking better wolf Hunter than you you petulant twat and you are absolutely aware of this

Remember that two games ago where I hit every single goddamn wolf? Yeah I'm going to keep playing my way I've developed over the last 11 years

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Null haven't had anything pop out yet

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

literally all I'm tryign to do is try to understand where you're coming from

all you had to say at this point is tonereads but at least say something so we can try to understand

jesus fuck dude I'm not being unreasonable here and you're just getting really angry for asking you questions

oh yeah and by the way

you're wrong this game

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

nevermind I'm done

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

And you call my shit posting a means to scare new players, dohoho

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Nah, keep going, he's most definitely pulling your emotional chains.

He did it to me.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Dap's been pinging v pretty consistently

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

yeah I'm done, I'm not going to blindly trust tonereads when at least one of them is wrong

I value his input but it's not changing my mind by itself

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I'm dumb, which one is wrong again?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

This is not new behavior from me I'm intentionally only saying tone reads until I have something to jump on

What seems disingenuous here is focusing on me like you can't see any value in me stating my reads blankly on focusing on what you imagine to be ideal behavior. It smacks of trying to posture through aggression after I called bullshit on you yesterday, especially considering that you are town-reading me. I'm not going to act on all of them I'm going to act on one wolf read and eliminate suspects via townreads. I think I've done a decent job of articulating the read most important to my decision making.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this is really all I needed to know

"Xiz wolf" and "Tiloco town" are useful but I didn't know where you were coming from so it seemed totally random

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

alright we're done here

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

For the most part I agreed with what you were saying

I just don't really think either of you are scum

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

helphelp/charu interaction isn't jiving with my read on helphelp

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Again this feels like changing the goal posts a bit

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

it probably is

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I'm trying to enter helphelp's mind and it's really hard.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Okay maybe you are town

What is your top read