Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

ok not charu

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no in this situation where we're severely lacking information I think jumping on any cop fakeclaim is a reasonable reaction

what's not a reasonable reaction is you doubting them if you're legit which you aren't

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lol so zenith was a mafia lmfao

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Wait.

Did you actually forget your own kill?

That was last night, man.

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why do you instantly believe him and not consider that he's a wolf who went off of V's breadcrumbs and is now targeting me?

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if I totally agreed with you I'd be voting AA right now

I have some reservations

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I'm an easy mislynch at this point because of fucking zenith, can't "red check" red blaster because he's confirmed now, xiz/dbp are harder to make a case against

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Interesting.

What are they?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I feel like mislynching you.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

lol haku

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i was timing you on how fast you would respond, because of how easy it is to fake on dead people. So, I looked at posts from d1. Also look at the freakin font 7 thing that I posted. Public ally.

So you could have faked in the night, done a shit ton of research on V, and read all of his posts super carefully. Which, is possible. But you were not under any pressure, and you did this at the start of the day sooooo

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

uh

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I did research and looked back at V's posting you dingdong. That's not insta believing.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

BREADCRUMBS

DID YOU READ MY POST

because what he's doing right now is going off of V's breadcrumbs for an easy mislynch

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I want to watch AA struggle before giving him something he might latch onto

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this is exactly what he's doing and he just wants to end the day quickly with a mislynch so he can kill more people

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

good let me clear myself and then we can lynch the fake

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

we have 48 hours. go for it

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Ok so logically myself and Haku shouldn't be lynched.

I want to say fontisan shouldn't be either just based off of his claim, if he's real obviously he'll be resolved in the night if he survives, well I'd be more skeptical then.

If we believe fontisan then jrodd isn't getting lynched either.

I still want to say there's a wolf between Xiz and Backpack as they are the only remaining botchi wagoners.

Haven't really heard much from storn so he's a big grey area for me

AA is kinda damned at this point unless he can make some sort of godlike case for himself

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like I can't believe you guys don't realize this is way too convenient

cop comes out right when I mention it with a "red check" on me exactly when it's needed most, when WE ARE IN POTENTIAL MYLO

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this is the best situation for a cop fakeclaim in a game with no cardflips

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haku, what was this

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and since I think everyone living has checked in this point I think the cop is dead

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yes, and this is a major reservation of mine

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Me being mad at AA.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

xiz you're not thinking about this enough

red blaster is a lost cause

haku I have no idea what you're doing

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what's there to be mad about? that I tinfoiled that you might be the SK and then said it was highly unlikely? FONTISIAN IS FAKE DON'T THROW THE GAME JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BUTTHURT

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Ok, but you'd have to believe that both Vendetta and I set this up.

Look at my first reads post as dedede.

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stop it storn

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

wait neither storn and jrodd have checked in yet

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yeah it's a perfect set-up but it's fake

V is totally the type of player to breadcrumb

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Why did you call it mislynching...?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Strictly speaking, it's possible if V was a wolf and left something in the wolfchat

Is that likely? that's whta I'm trying to figure out

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

That alone isn't enough to doubt you obviously

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Sarcasm/cynism. I didn't mean it literally.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this is perfectly in line with his playstyle (V's)

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I don't have time to go through all of V's other games but in the JK9++ I hosted V was the vigi and breadcrumbed it, let me go find the post

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I wonder if font is really a tryhard type dude to fake it. To like, read all of V's post and try to pick up on all his softs as scum.

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oh shit never thought of that lol

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

here

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...5&postcount=73

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

oh, forgot this

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look how silent he's been

and I realize that V's vigi breadcrumb isn't the same as a fakeclaim but he plans this stuff out as wolf

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

and this

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

yes more breadcrumbing

if you guys follow through on an unverified (fake) claim in potential mylo then you deserve to lose

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

He could be doing something similar to what I did in that 1-shot fireman game with DBP a while ago. I honestly have never seen him do that though.

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I'm curious as to why you're allowed to bring up what V did but when anyone has brought up Zenith you threw a fit about how it's impossible to explain someone else's actions.

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You keep calling this mylo, but you're fear mongering without pointing out my team.

Who exactly are they losing to?

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Ayy that was my first wolf game

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was this directed at me because I don't remember doing this unless im dumb

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it was to AA i think

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Lend me your strength, Charu.............

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Please........

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

because his actions are lining up with V's in that they're breadcrumbing towards a fakeclaim when convenient while mine are in direct conflict with zenith's

potential mylo

maybe rzr/storn

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I'm getting PTSD flashbacks to a previous mystery game where Zenith fakeclaimed to clinch the wolf win, and I KNEW he was a wolf, but was able to talk me and Charu into lynching blind

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I wish charu would've shared his "reasons" before getting killed

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Alright, I'll lay my reservations on the table

1) Why aren't you voting for AA if you got a red check on him
2) Why did Vendetta choose to seer rzr instead of his most vocal wolf lean, Xelnya
3) Charu said that he knew AA/Zenith was town, for some reason

I need to sleep on it

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

yes, which is why him dying in the night is really awful for us in this situation

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Listen, I'm not going to say I'm a bad wolf, because I am a pretty damn good one, but I play like vt as a wolf. Puppet mastering a game when I don't know any of you well enough to understand how you'd react is madness.

I am the cop. This a real check. We need to start finding AA's partners.

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fontisian is sitting back and watching lol

I'm going to sleep I have class early tomorrow

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

you have to understand that it's hard for us in this situation

I haven't made any conclusions yet

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

oh

interesting how you make another assumption that I'd even have partners

fontisian confirmed wolf

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1. Someone said something about the day ending early. I don't know how lynch mechanics work and I don't want that to happen. Discussion is key at this stage.
2. Fuck if I know.
3. Fuck if I know.

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Oh, you're the Cop and Vendetta is a Vanilla Town?

I'm greatly amused.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

oh I forgot about this too lol

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

...

That's a horrible argument, and you know it.

If you're the last wolf, this ends today and nothing matters. If you're not, the discussion is important.

At least try, man.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Irrelevant. We don't know that. We have never played with you. I've totally done that to a new group before.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Well, I'm aware there's at least 1 SK and 1 Mafia in this game and I'm pretty sure one of them is fontisian.

Now I feel dirty for covering Vendetta Day 1.

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even if I was the last wolf which I'm not you still have an SK to find and it doesn't change the fact that you're operating on the assumption that as a wolf I have partners when you shouldn't be assuming anything

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I offered to link my games. /shrug/

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Also AA you have provided us with legit nothing besides "he could be fake since perhaps mylo"

Can you go through a list of everyone or something in detail

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

fontisian's argument for why we should believe him is based on self-meta and ignorance

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

this is juicy

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THANK YOU

no he is fake and this is way too convenient a cop claim

what do you expect me to do here? It's a game with no cardflips so we can't confirm whether or not there is a cop alive mechanically and I'm being fake red-checked by someone who claimed vanilla town earlier

if you want a list I can bang one out real quick before I sleep (I assume you mean reads list)

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

what the fuck does this mean

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

I bet the only reason why I'm still alive is because I've been pocketing Vendetta Day 1.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

For tonight, yes. Tomorrow we will discuss more.

Re: TWG CXLIX: Cedolad Replaces Out GAME THREAD
 

Perhaps we need a lesson on what the word pocketing means.

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my read on rzr has not changed much because he hasn't posted anything, the only thing I realized is that there's much more conviction in his reads than normal which is a bit odd

DBP: I'm almost sure DBP is town, he's been going hard since the start of the game and I don't feel anything wrong with his tone like I did when he was the SK. He's been a detective in the truest sense, he's not immediately believing the fakeclaim, he has a healthy sense of doubt overall.

Xiz: you stuck out to me early on a toneread but I think your interactions with DBP have seemed like T/T and I think your attempt at softing is not something a scum would do in that situation. Town, somewhat by association with DBP

storn: pretty null, he's said some stuff but I'm not sure about him, I want to pressure him at the very least

fontisian: fake lol nothing else to say, he's going off of V's breadcrumbs. if he dies it'll be by the SK lol

haku: medic

red blaster: inno child

I think that's everyone

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Ah, you are correct. I keep forgetting the sk exists. I really dislike them as a concept.

And it looks like we've hit a tipping point and I really need some sleep anyway.

I am vt.

I believe that Xiz believed my claim, and that the way he treated AA during the claim (specially, calling him a dingus) is not consistent with them being on a scum team. Therefore, he's either the SK or town.

I fake checked AA because I was most suspicious of him, storn and backpack, storn's timezones were not conducive to a reaction test, and backpack didn't seem to be the type to react poorly to a check. The other greens were based off of the combination of my own and Vendetta's reads. I hadn't actually read his posts until AA's post today made me want to fakeclaim (which is likely an oversite on my part, as he seems competent) but the fact that he was reading rzr strongly town as well makes me feel good about my read there.

I think Backpack noticing that I wasn't voting AA as the main issue with my claim is significant, as it shows he was trying to determine if I was town faking. If AA is mafia, Backpack is with him. Backpack is also potentially the SK. Honestly, I think the reluctance to which he approached the claim, without looking up evidence until Xiz did, is just mafia.

I don't know what to make of AA. I think part of his reaction was very real. I also some of his logic was very shit, but it's easy to get emotional and react that way when redchecked as town. So yeah, I don't know.

DaBackPack

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so top three suspects would be: fontisian because he's fake, storn because I'm null on him and I didn't like his EOD behavior, and rzr because of the lack of paranoia/tinfoiling from him that I normally see and instead having stronger convictions about his reads