Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724810)

TWGma probably wolf every time here because the jailing on me would have stopped the name colour night action on me.

CK is real and un CC'd.

Change my mind.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724820)

If I'm a wolf fake claiming roleblocker, I'm probably a roleblocker to begin with, no? Given that multiple characters in this flux can roll roleblocker, I don't think it's too farfetched.
Now, if I'm a wolf roleblocker, don't I roleblocks twgma anyway? So that I can't be counterclaims by this exact scenario?

Twgma fake simple

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724820)

If I'm a wolf fake claiming roleblocker, I'm probably a roleblocker to begin with, no? Given that multiple characters in this flux can roll roleblocker, I don't think it's too farfetched.
Now, if I'm a wolf roleblocker, don't I roleblocks twgma anyway? So that I can't be counterclaims by this exact scenario?

Twgma fake simple

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724821)

Say your character name. You have 1 minute max.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724820)

If I'm a wolf fake claiming roleblocker, I'm probably a roleblocker to begin with, no? Given that multiple characters in this flux can roll roleblocker, I don't think it's too farfetched.
Now, if I'm a wolf roleblocker, don't I roleblocks twgma anyway? So that I can't be counterclaims by this exact scenario?

Twgma fake simple

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724825)

the only wolf roleblocker role in this game was eric, who is dead

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724828)

it's hard, but I'm trying to imagine what happens if I'm a wolf and you mislynch twgma
it means you enter a final three where raeko and plop are hard clear and sunfan is soft cleared for voting me

so obviously that can't be the case

it's always better to lynch twgma today, no matter alignment, because the f3s are easier to win when he dies first

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724820)

If I'm a wolf fake claiming roleblocker, I'm probably a roleblocker to begin with, no? Given that multiple characters in this flux can roll roleblocker, I don't think it's too farfetched.
Now, if I'm a wolf roleblocker, don't I roleblocks twgma anyway? So that I can't be counterclaims by this exact scenario?

Twgma fake simple

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724804)

*eyeroll*
its when people get over the top that I know something's up
if you're town, you believe too much
if you're wolf, you're not answering a basic question (you did at another point but like)

you just played with me last game when I was, in everyone's opinion but bolth's, not an obvious wolf for basically all of the game

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724828)

it's hard, but I'm trying to imagine what happens if I'm a wolf and you mislynch twgma
it means you enter a final three where raeko and plop are hard clear and sunfan is soft cleared for voting me

so obviously that can't be the case

it's always better to lynch twgma today, no matter alignment, because the f3s are easier to win when he dies first

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724830)

how is plop hard clear if you're a wolf

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724813)

Uh huh. And you don't think she'd have saved Tokzic at night? I think it was pretty clear she felt him hard town, plus the whole wanting to keep him around to play with? Yeah, I'm p sure Raeko would've saved Tokzic 9 times out of 10 last night if she was Doc.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724834)

have you considered reading our posts to find out

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724836)

have you considered not being a smartass and answering the question

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724837)

like, the dude was about to vote me for claiming roleblocker
is that really the +EV play as partners?

The person spinning it that way is a wolf...
just think about what makes sense, apply occam's razor if you have to

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724839)

if your partner KNOWS YOURE NOT THE REAL PR YES THAT WOULD BE THE BEST MOVE

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724838)

considering plop seems to sincerely think twgma is the wolf over you, if you were in fact a wolf, plop would be the first person i would look at now

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724837)

like, the dude was about to vote me for claiming roleblocker
is that really the +EV play as partners?

The person spinning it that way is a wolf...
just think about what makes sense, apply occam's razor if you have to

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724842)

also note, he DID NOT vote you for claiming. seems real easy to be like "yeah i think he's lying but not enough to vote" and then to turn around and be very suspicious of the "counter claim"

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724843)

I swear on my love of Kirby that I'm a vanilla townie.

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724197)

twgma can be a wolf
feels like whoever gets lynched, it'll just be happening and that's all

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724291)

Still not liking bolth. Will look into raeko tomorrow if I'm still alive.
Haku trending perfectly at ????
Slightly sketched by sunfan still being here, but that might just be overthinking.

Like Tokzic a lot, alright with CK.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724655)

CK is obv Town.
Haku probably doesn't get touched today, I don't think. Not with that green check on him.

Sunfan seems fine today, albeit a little more attentive to the game than he said he'd be which is ? but whatever helps.

From that, I think my lynches are between Raeko/FFA/Plop

Plop's been on me all game, but has never really given any reasoning until recently why (and Haku's pointed this out as well), and even then that reasoning is minimal (UTR. Woo. Look how well that worked last time you bit on that read).
Raeko's pleading with Haku is just weird and bad.
I don't think FFA's got any claim whatsoever is holding up that card to keep him alive, and his pronunciations of being "cleared" are just his usual delusions of grandeur.

Gonna look back to find interactions and pairings between the 3.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724847)

well sunfan
here's your chance
it's nearly identical to the ZD game
do you mislynch me too or do you believe in the associatives

...or are you a wolf I guess but I want you to be town so you can really play it out

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724835)

That's a good point, but when she kept speaking up almost every single time that someone brought up haku being coverup'd, it seemed like the obvious conclusion to make. Combine that with her "Hey, who else is clear? I'm clear" post, it was like a done deal.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724837)

like, the dude was about to vote me for claiming roleblocker
is that really the +EV play as partners?

The person spinning it that way is a wolf...
just think about what makes sense, apply occam's razor if you have to

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724849)

you're counting your chickens before they hatch if you're town, even moreso because I'm town; that means that people are leaning towards voting you (i mean incentive wise)

I do think associative on you are kind of hard on ffr

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4724213)

Vote Count

TWGma (2)
Tokzic, Bolth mannn

flashflash account (2)
the sun fan, Cold Kitten

Bolth mannn (2)
TWGma, flashflash account

Tokzic (1)
fatfuck42

mellon_collie (1)
Hakulyte

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Unvote:

Not Voting:
mellon_collie

:59 good :00 bad

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724197)

twgma can be a wolf
feels like whoever gets lynched, it'll just be happening and that's all

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724246)

whatever
fineeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i guess i gotta move

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724252)

bolth
gut says he feels the same
its a shitty read and I think him coming at me is something he'd be able to easily channel (yes I know he isn't really trying to lynch me)

Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4724277)

ffa
do it or die

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724857)

idk guys like
I don't think character claims are the way to go, it's a lot easier for twgma to fake his claim because he knows haku is vt
I wouldn't claim to block twgma if I didn't have a very good reason to fake that claim
and if yall are saying the wolf roleblocker is already flipped, that just means I'm town, obviously

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724859)

I'm glad that you know that he knows that I'm town.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724862)

where's haku's post with all the possible roles

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724867)

here's what I think
I think TWGma DID make the wolfkill, but he's the strongman

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724867)

here's what I think
I think TWGma DID make the wolfkill, but he's the strongman

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724866)

In the world where ffa is legit and twgma lied, why would twgma keep the roleblock notification to himself?

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724869)

Simply put, there was no roleblock notification, so why would I keep something that I never got to myself?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724874)

I just realized how confusingly I worded that post, lol. Everything after the if blank is blank is me trying to discredit the idea. So what you replied to is my evidence that you could be telling the truth and ffa is lying.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724872)

What messes with me is that FFA's roleblock was exactly TWGma who also CC.

Almost feels like a 2nd Molly scenario.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724870)

I don't think character is important tbh
the properness and rigidity of your roleclaim sketches me out honestly so take that

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724876)

someone explain what this means for those of us who weren't there

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724877)

i kinda of claimed in a similar way with my full character name and everything. to be fair to twgma, that's how i would expect claims go in this type of game and i'm not sure why you would think character is unimportant.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724879)

because it's not something that can be disputed, apparently

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724880)

....... yes it can. depending on the circumstances at least. if you claimed to be a certain character name that someone else was, they could say you're lying. the only issue is that VTs are unnamed until they flip on death.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724875)

This reads like that post where Haku basically said "don't read this post".
Like you posted it for you and hoped that no one would look into it.

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724876)

someone explain what this means for those of us who weren't there

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724878)

apparently molly was like "you're gonna make me do it" and everyone thought it was a soft
molly was the town roleblocker
that's all I know

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724882)

No, I want people to read my posts. Not being able to get people to listen to me is probably my biggest shortcoming as a player, and it's something I've been trying to work on this game.

Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4724884)

I'm not sure what haku's getting at. Molly was a town roleblocker who roleblocked a wolf but was herself shot by a vigi.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724883)

FFA, why did you roleblock TWGma N1 ?

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724885)

//facepalm
You're thinking of Mathilda.

Molly had a block in the night that would have prevented a wolf kill and dunked Phil (aka sunfan), except Molly was the counterwagon to a lynch and got shot by the vigi (whoops me) in the night, which lead to it being the only kill, and allowing wolves to escape without that info of Molly's being revealed.

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724888)

I started on sunfan as is tradition
My thought was I needed to block players who nightkill me as wolves
when I went to bed I dreamt about the game and realized that enough people had seen my soft for it to not matter
I tried to think about a bunch of different worlds of person who thinks I'm PR+person who is fairly under the radar to make the nightkill

I decided that TWGma was a good choice for this since teams that I had thought/dreamt about with him on them always had him making the kill in that pairing
so I felt sure that if he was a wolf, he was the one making the kill, so if he's town the nightkill will go through

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724888)

I started on sunfan as is tradition
My thought was I needed to block players who nightkill me as wolves
when I went to bed I dreamt about the game and realized that enough people had seen my soft for it to not matter
I tried to think about a bunch of different worlds of person who thinks I'm PR+person who is fairly under the radar to make the nightkill

I decided that TWGma was a good choice for this since teams that I had thought/dreamt about with him on them always had him making the kill in that pairing
so I felt sure that if he was a wolf, he was the one making the kill, so if he's town the nightkill will go through

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724890)

lol

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724889)

With that said, I don't know how Haku is equating that scenario to FFA "blocking" me.

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724891)

and i had a massive headache that woke me up in the middle of the night that's definitely supposed to represent this headache of a game

Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4724892)

I don't think you can dispute the fact that I always have mechanical knowledge that twgma didn't succeed in visiting anyone last night, no matter how you justify me fake claiming

therefore I am not fake claiming

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4724894)

tbh i don't think we're ever gonna figure out which one of them is lying before we have to lynch someone

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724896)

Some things never change, apparently.

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4724896)

Except I can, because you don't as wolf roleblocker doesn't exist, so there's no way I could be prevented from visiting my target.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4724899)

For the record, I think if FFA flips wolf, Sunfan is his wolf partner because Sunfan was interested in voting TWGma.