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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749616)

This post reminds me of when FFA wolfed with FG and I and basically asked everyone else what to do that day, or sheeped reads instead of being headstrong about opinions.

whose opinions have I sheeped so far? My content has been entirely my own lol

very disingenuous

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749592)

I still think if you/freezin/shadowgod were all town day would have advanced more quickly

I never said anything about sheeping, only that him calling you lazy reminded me of that, but good job not noticing the context of the post.

Also, the above quote is lazy following.

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749619)

I never said anything about sheeping, only that him calling you lazy reminded me of that, but good job not noticing the context of the post.

Also, the above quote is lazy following.

I'm not sure why me having a low post count, or me passing a judgement on the thread state reminds you of a game where I sheeped sunfan all of day 1

you're clearly just doing it to shade me but w/e

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Once again, learn to read.
I said that Lewdy's quote reminded me of that. Not what you did, his quote.

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just finished tutoring, but it looks like EoD was delayed

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749618)

whose opinions have I sheeped so far? My content has been entirely my own lol

very disingenuous

hot take: FFA is a wolf

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749616)

This post reminds me of when FFA wolfed with FG and I and basically asked everyone else what to do that day, or sheeped reads instead of being headstrong about opinions.

Hmmm...

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749622)

just finished tutoring, but it looks like EoD was delayed

We have 21 and a half extra hours, give or take now if you're reading this before you go back

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??? FFA your video is broken

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Back, and to the left.

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749623)

hot take: FFA is a wolf

Is there anything else there? Or just gut so far?

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749630)

Back, and to the left.

You suck the fun out of everything, old man

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Nevermind I'm sure I missed something there

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749629)

oh that's sad
https://youtu.be/UNERcQ0iBKQ

HOLY SHIT LOL

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Guys, I think FG is MIND BLOWN

I'll see myself out.

I do see that Ulli is here though

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Interesting.

Ullibahra talk more please

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well, I skimmed the posts after my last one on my phone during a lull earlier, and that was an emotional rollercoaster

things got al little out of hand today, and I'm pretty tired - I'm not sure whether attempting an in-depth analyisis of what's happened so far is gonna work but i'll get as far as I can?

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all I know is that these objection.lol thingamajiggers don't seem to work – they play fine for a while and then freeze with this godawful "buffer buzz". so y'all better not be sneakies and hiding game-relevant pearls of wisdom in there!

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oh yeah i fessed up the wolf team already the jig is up ulli

we did good

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They don't work for you?

I can confirm that there's nothing of interest save for Haku's which is, if you've played with him before, Haku doing Haku things

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Meaning don't read too much into it.

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eff it I'm just gonna wing things for now

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749297)

Hello there! I don't think I've ever seen you before

Have you played with us recently?

I was Yuka in the Aminal Crossing game

I also played in the subsequent C9+ but replaced out of that one

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seems like in the middle of my P3 (81-120) is when things actually start picking up and meta starts seeding some reads – it's a shame I know basically none of it!

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749376)

i think barring some major revelation im going to slank lynch and call it good

What is this, exactly?

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Good thing i accidentally clicked through to TWGma's profile, because otherwise I would've never known who "T-Force" was o_o

nice to see FreezinIce answered my question though

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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749477)

its actually kinda surprising (and nice) that at the very least, every player has checked in this phase.

Haku and shadow both seem to have internal monologues that sounds a lot like my current inner monologue in that theres like nothing going on still, but we still need to move in a direction. Im comfortable giving some town points in that regard where haku/shado is at least trying some stuff, although it definitely feels like trying to extract meaning from things that dont actually mean much.

gut wolf vibes from tforce but i dont think i ever dont get those vibes lmao

REally like this post, it seems to come from a town mindset of trying to see who's actually digging into stuff and recognizing common ground on that front. I remember there was this big debate over people incorporating "too much town-hunting", back on one of the last iterations of the dearly departed home site, but it turned out to be both useful and pretty hard for wolves to fake, since they know who they can trust already and don't want to narrow their path to victory if possible.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749492)

damn
whoever it is, if it doesn't work, after a certain point, don't try to make it work
just take signs for what they are

I don't know you and this was an offhanded comment and maybe my words are unwelcome but I feel like saying them

Lol, no problem, friend – I do really need to be more mindful and I do have some really unhealthy & time-eating habits I need to break, particularly wrt social media. It's partially why I tried to come back to TWG, because it takes me back to times before those were big issues for me, but that has it's own caveats

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So my last game, I got hints that there might have been a bit of culture clash with the way I played the first Day, and the discussion after my last post (210+) basically confirms it, so to answer Hakulyte's very respresentative question:

Roles were always at least something of a priority in my heyday. I come from a tradition that allowed outside communication and mostly did Night Starts, but there were also a few Day start games, but for the most part the first stages of any game proceeded in a similar fashion. There was always a discussion of the roles and/or special mechanics, and some back-and-forth about the possible effects and strategic considerations; unless, of course, it was a mystery game with such factors totally hidden, or a game with no roles that had a positive influence on the town's decision-making at large (e.g a game that had only Guardians as Blues, with no specific information on protections given). It was almost seen as the town's duty to have some discussion about this to get things going, and that held for most of the community's existence, although there was a vocal section who began to push against it in later years.

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749536)

I think we will actually have Ulle content because of this extension.

you sure will ;)

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ugh, I had an internet hiccup and lost the terminal portion to this post

prithee not begrudge me two-and-a-half more pages?

because I need to take a cue from Adam Mansbach, and go the fuck to sleep

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749548)

reading last few pages im suspicious of sunfan, i feel like he gets super ambivalent about lynching people only when he rolls wolf.

i dont feel like digging up the really old games and combing thru them, its more of a gut read

didn't you realize that I do that as both alignments?
I know this was something you used to think was a tell but I thought you got over this.

fwiw I have had other people tell me that my "tell" as wolf is feeling confident about a lynch

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749557)

if ull is a hit, sunfan might be a hit as well. Ull i'd rather kill over Sunfan (old EOD mentality) but I think that kill leads to more info. And tbh 1 post after all this time even if they are town i dont mind them dead.

I'm really tired of the replacing out / afk slot stuff so, thats where im bias

nah, this is where I put a stop to this

lynching Ull, or basically anyone else gives NO information today

last game, I was mislynched d1 over wayward, because people figured that killing Wayward would give less info. Wayward was a wolf with like 5 posts on the phase, if that.

All of the information that was generated from my kill amounted to cedo quoting my (honestly rather accurate) reads one time in a future phase, and no one talking about them after that.

If you think Ull is a wolf (which it sounds like you do), then go ahead and vote for them. Don't do it because you value some amount of information that you and I both know will have no one give a shit about it in the future phases.

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this might be stupid and I wasn't even thinking about it (I was in another tab) but I don't like the fact that Xiz is claiming to be thinking about an infolynch today when he has admitted it was stupid to kill me for information (yes I know he was 3P that game, that doesn't make it an exoneration given he saw and felt that my kill there was stupid and gave no information)

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749600)

I get this, and what you are trying to say.

It's like,

Vote sunfan:
+1 point for sunfan's defence
- 1 for sunfan/yoshl interaction

Vote Ult:
+1 for sunfan's defence
+1 for no content about other players
+1 for not being too cool with the mechanical post

sunfan = 0
Ult = 3

That's the best way I can explain it

do I really deserve a townpoint for what Yoshl said?
what did I do in this interaction that you liked?

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alright I was kind of hoping more happened, all I really talked about was Xiz but whatever, wouldn't be the first time I only have eyes for him

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I think the only really semi-important thing that I want to say is that Trevor's posts since I last posted before now were still not good so I feel okish about my vote

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749650)

I think the only really semi-important thing that I want to say is that Trevor's posts since I last posted before now were still not good so I feel okish about my vote

ok I lied I feel better than ok-ish

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Story update.
https://objection.lol/objection/732836

I'll try to look at what I can do with recent posts.

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Originally Posted by Ulleabhara (Post 4749644)

Roles were always at least something of a priority in my heyday. I come from a tradition that allowed outside communication and mostly did Night Starts, but there were also a few Day start games, but for the most part the first stages of any game proceeded in a similar fashion. There was always a discussion of the roles and/or special mechanics, and some back-and-forth about the possible effects and strategic considerations; unless, of course, it was a mystery game with such factors totally hidden, or a game with no roles that had a positive influence on the town's decision-making at large (e.g a game that had only Guardians as Blues, with no specific information on protections given). It was almost seen as the town's duty to have some discussion about this to get things going, and that held for most of the community's existence, although there was a vocal section who began to push against it in later years.

Yeah, it's a bit of a culture shock here. I tend to associate mechanical talk with wolves trying to see how players react to mechanical information.

I did see you in the Animal Crossing game play in that specific manner and I don't remember who I voted, but I remember being wrong on reading you negatively for this. I do feel like most veteran players here would get suspicion for the formatting in that specific post, but these assumptions have a decent chance to be wrong. So, if you look at my progression, I kind of got sus of you because of this standard that I have and then I walked away from it because I had this mental reference of the other game.

tl;dr: There's better ways to evaluate you and I think you're currently doing fine.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749646)

I tend to agree with you. I'd rather lynch someone that may prove to be a coin flip long term due to activity.
I think it will force the game to get together.
Ulleabhara wasn't very active in the first 48 hours, but now it looks better and it might be good to look into other players in order of inactivity.

(unless something seriously suspicious happens)

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749647)

The real joke is that "info lynch" should be targeted at inactives because they're the hardest players to figure out.
Lynching active players hurt really really bad in last game.
I just think that this player might not currently be Ulleabhara.

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always bad, bad news when Haku agrees with me

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I feel like FFA is playing the role of someone trying to perturbate trends.

I have trouble to connect his thoughts with the game directly.

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749652)

Story update.
https://objection.lol/objection/732836

I'll try to look at what I can do with recent posts.

my first thought was that ffa was a really bad pick to be phoenix wright, but then when it got to him pounding the desks, it really fit super well

I was happy when I saw that I was Edgeworth, and I burst out laughing when the line about Freezin's voice came up and I woke up danceguy

even if you die n1 like bolthy wants, please continue to make these in deadchat, I really need these

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749657)

perturbate.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749645)

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749651)

ok I lied I feel better than ok-ish

game over sunfan

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749659)

my first thought was that ffa was a really bad pick to be phoenix wright, but then when it got to him pounding the desks, it really fit super well

BabyRage

hey I just beat bloodborne everyone who congratulates me gets a free town read

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I also "claimed" phoenix wright in my own objection

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749663)

I also "claimed" phoenix wright in my own objection

I feel like you being Phoenix and me being Edgeworth is really fitting, come to think of it

do you still have an icky feeling about Freezin's original read of me?
I can at least confirm that he has attempted to read me on such in the past

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749664)

if freezin has said something like it before it's obviously less weird
I don't feel strongly about that read at all fwiw, I just don't feel that great about freezin yet

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Warning, tower of quotes. Don't worry, I'm like open thinking and throwing the bits of info that catches my attention.

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749368)

yep this is what I was looking for, thanks

it's really weird that a d1 with both shadowgod and haku in it has had zero solving in 24 hours

therefore a wolf?

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749373)

That's adorable.

Look at everyone's ISO and tell me if you can actually figure shit out from that hot steaming mess.

Haku also just admitted up above to, I guess, taking a back seat for a while.

I definitely had a lazy start this game. I've been playing lots of genshin impact and messing around with that objection maker.
I doubt me having 100 posts here would have changed much.
I'm also keeping an eye on the 13.5th Official Tournament.

So, huh. Just keep an eye on the smaller amount of things I'm doing if it bothers you I guess.
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Going to look into what seems to be early game reads.

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4749567)

alright so t-force is actually a good vote though

uh what else

haku why aren't you town yet

i'm not voting ulle this phase. already know i have trouble reading her so

sunfan's ok, xiz's ok. these reads are tentative

FG
(I cannot take your T-Force vote seriously. In fact, if you want to genuinely vote him, you should make a mini case there at least. Even if you're not serious, it would be fun to actually evaluate you two properly.)

Free pass to Ulle before showing back up. (I wonder what you had in mind at that point.)

Haku -> (low activity I assume (lower than usual post per minute oh noes))
Sunfan -> ok (not quite sure what's your take on that one. I legit had nothing on him when you made that post.)
Xiz -> ok (I'm assuming formatting, but not quite sure where/why ?)

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749375)

i think that toxicity thread was just the result of the topic not being broached for as long as i can remember so everyone spewed up all their grievances they've been holding in

with the exception of a few new mods and maybe some very light oversight i dont really forsee a major shift in how twg is played

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749376)

i think barring some major revelation im going to slank lynch and call it good

That's relatively neutral and by the book on what I think Freezin would do either way.

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749386)

also i just rewatched hakus objection and realized he stuck his suspicions in there. And i somehow completely glossed over it and missed it the first time i watched. lol

My reads aren't established and I was just trying to find a narrative to associate a character to each player. If I have reads they will be directly in the thread. I'm genuinely only using that objection maker because I'm curious to see how the game's narrative will align in the future compared to the randomness I'm improvising on the spot. Clearly that narrative is boring if you're a wolf therefore im town because I wouldn't be curious about this otherwise. 300 IQ play thank you.
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749397)

I like Xiz. I think he's town.

I give a free pass to Xiz for objectively no valid reason.
I guess this has no value in theory, it's more comparable to a peace treaty.
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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749430)

I'm unsure if haku, your current rabbit hole is one you're actually investigating, or one that you're just kind of making passing comments on.

Not only they're comments, but I'm not even committing to my own thoughts at this point. I'm still like trying to figure out what's worth investigating and what's not. I'd be very happy to have something worth spending time on.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749446)

Not too much to go off here, ugh

Haku doing Haku things
Plop inquired about the objection thing Haku made
FFA thought it was weird that Haku and I weren't doing anything for the first half, we came to an agreement based off Haku saying he was taking a back seat.

I got nothing.

Well, this confirms that Shadow God is playing the game and is bored about the lack of new events within the game.
Free D0 town read yey.

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749481)

Hooray! Website's back!

I'll be back in a lil bit, but in the meantime, my attorney has advised me to place an explanation-less vote on ffa.

Ok, so this is the beginning of a no explanation ffa wagon.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749505)

holy fUCK

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749506)

I thought it was tomorrow
yeah I'm not gonna make this one, forget it

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749088)

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749085)

Testing.

https://objection.lol/objection/711706

beautiful
EDIT: I'm just letting roundbox know that I read the setup

Would Sunfan forget about EoD time after confirming that he has seen EoD time in signups ?
:thinking:

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749517)

I'm probably just gonna vote trevor and call it a day and claim no postgame cred if I'm right

twgma

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749520)

look, I don't actually give a shit about killing between them
its a false dichotomy if anyone is actually thinking that there is anything between them that needs to be resolved

I think Trevor was like 2% scummy
I have no opinion on FG

I won't defend this, but I feel like it's not worth voting.

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749530)

I'm also gonna say I don't want to vote Ulle because I want to actually play with them and I'm also against voting off new players immediately because of the habit we all seem to have about not being able to read new players and offing them immediately.

TWGma doesn't want to vote Ulle.
This may or may not be worth noting for later on.

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749525)

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749523)

I wanna vote Ulleabhara for spending 0 second evaluating anyone tbh.

I kinda feel the same way... I got fishy vibes from that post but also I don't really have an idea of how this person plays so ????

Here we have a mutual Haku/Raeko association for voting Ulle.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749526)

im not voting someone because they made a post about roles

Sunfan defending against voting Ulle.

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749534)

I want to vote Ull simply because sunfan wont vote ull for just posting roles.
DBP will show up 20m before EOD
Funny/Force I see as T/W or T/T
haku off the table, feels towny
raeko super light towny, liked the "yeah i thought the same thing" quote, felt natural
YoshL saying "nah this isnt a mindmeld" to sunfan is really towny, so they are off the table

don't really care about anyone else

ulle

Xiz wants to vote Ulle because Sunfan doesn't want to.

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749542)

That ule post came across as pretty townie to me. I feel like she'd be more self-conscious about going that deep into mechanics if she were a wolf (since "focusing too much on mechanics" is a popular wolf tell).

Plop defending Ulle.

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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749544)

I'm actually thinking on a little different lines here.

I went back and actually read the post, and the majority of it felt like common sense.

Like for example, the call to let up on any red checks should be pretty common sense given you read the potential blues and reds in the game, there's a lot of them that manipulate checks (assuming we have the alignment check in the game in the first place)

The one good point that was brought up was the final part regarding red miles, because I had forgotten about potential slightly-forced pushes on various players from the red miles role. I think my biggest issue though then becomes, why didn't they apply this to anything said in thread?

Like, thinking about it, i really really don't like how there's for some reason very random traction (no matter how small) on t-force lynch? i get that people aren't married to the idea, but when i said "gut tforce wolf" i wasn't expecting as much discussion around it as actually happened.

Basically, I don't like the mechanics post, because it's comboed with "very simple thoughts about setup", and "not applying mechanics thoughts to things actually happening in game"

Okay, this is like investigating / giving Ulle something to answer.

Xiz voting interest went -> Ulle(?) -> Sunfan

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749560)

right now I don't like how the more active posters are trending wolfy to me and the less active posters are null to towny

ordinarily I'd town read the top poster but I feel shadowgod has proven post count is nai for them
now that we've moved out of obvious meme territory hopefully their insights start getting a little deeper

FFA is preoccupied by the state of the game most likely due to how stagnant everything has been.

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749565)

active players I don't feel great about:
haku, shadowgod, freezin, xiz, plop

less active players I feel mostly okay toward:
funnygurl, yoshl, raeko

If we mix my reads with yours here, I would say that specifically: Freezin/Plop/Sunfan are worth investigating.

Freezin has been playing super safe D0.
Plop free voted FFA and was mostly acting as a smart sheep.
Sunfan is all over the place.

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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4749567)

FG has haku (activity?)
Interest voting within Sunfan/Xiz.

I'm not a fan because Sunfan/Xiz unlikely W/W.

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749587)

gotcha

my thought process was something like

- I like most the people talking, specifically haku, shadow, kinda fatfuck, kinda freezin
- Only real talk is funny/force. Meme'd a bit on it but I kinda buy into the tforce mood thing
- I liked sunfan/yoshl interaction about it, more yoshl with the "not mindmeld" line because I've almost never seen a wolf say stuff like that to a town nor wolf.
- I didn't care about Force/Funny enough to take it serously
- No strong wolf leads, more often then not in past 20 twg games they are usually inactives
- dbp/ul/funny/force/mellon/ffa then i'll consider
- i removed funny/foce for a bit to get new info then realized they were both at the bottom, hence my lolz
- Mellon felt good, removed her. Said why in prev post
- FFA felt just there, but nothing stuck out. An option, but 3rd compared to DBP/Ult because miss-reading FFA is a thing
- DBP has a habit for being afk so I put him on standby until he came back after tutoring. I would have hopped on a dbp wagon.
- Funny/Force are just not w/w. I will fight anyone who disagrees. That is like, the only thing i'm confident of in this game so far. Between them, I don't hold the accusation by Yoshl/Sunfan with any weight, so its a coinflip on who to kill there if it came down to them. But I think t/t is more real then t/w at this current point.
- Ul is left from that. I didn't like sunfan's defence, so I thought about why UL more. And if we were actually ending that phase I rather see Ul dead over anyone else (with respect to DBP info, and like i guess FFA if there was anything he said weird)

tl;dr POE on UL from how everyone else acted so far
(this is fully unfiltered Xiz thoughts, like em or not)

I'm concerned about Freezin/Plop personally. I think they're a good example of someone potentially not getting attention.

I feel like it would fit with your theory about 2 afks wolves + 1 "ugh".

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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749591)

oh final thought, i think someone else mentioned this briefly in passing, but Xiz, if you didn't like sunfan's defence on ull, why not vote sunfan instead of ull? It seems incredibly strange that you become suspicious of one person (sunfan) defending, and decide to instead of sussing your sus, sus on the susser's non-sus

Xiz/Sunfan is suspicious, but I haven't decided if it's something we want to solve D0.

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Originally Posted by flashflash account (Post 4749592)

I still think if you/freezin/shadowgod were all town day would have advanced more quickly

If there's a wolf here, it's Freezin imo. The thing is that, just like me, he's been probably waiting for something major to happen or simply for D0 to end to see flips etc.

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4749605)

T-Force had a white text vote option on FFA.

Will consider because I wonder if there's more to the story.

Quoting myself to self reflect with the idea that maybe this was like a placebo vote to test the waters to later on become a real vote even if there's no good reason.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749607)

Do you think FFA is being lazy so far? Or is this just FFA being FFA?

Shadow also interested in FFA and honestly my view of FFA was whatever because FFA wasn't viewing me in the best light due to activity which was kinda justified if you preach meta for every game.

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4749616)

This post reminds me of when FFA wolfed with FG and I and basically asked everyone else what to do that day, or sheeped reads instead of being headstrong about opinions.

Okay mindmeld with T-Force on that. Strangely enough, this is making me associate Shadow God with T-Force. Potentially with DBP/Plop, but there's at least 1 town in there 100% of the time which means my groupings are at least half wrong.

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4749623)

hot take: FFA is a wolf

Following the footsteps of Plop with no explanation -> FFA.

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Originally Posted by Ulleabhara (Post 4749644)

Good thing i accidentally clicked through to TWGma's profile, because otherwise I would've never known who "T-Force" was o_o

This is going to haunt my reads for the rest of the game.

Okay, this should be enough to construct itself into who has the most value to be voted. That being said, I need to sleep if I want to have 4-5 hours to put thoughts together.
Feel free to read into this, but it's just a draft. I'll try to come up with my own conclusions soon.

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im not reading that giant wall of text

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that post sure is... long

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749668)

im not reading that giant wall of text

I read it and I have no better understanding of hakus mindset than before. or any conclusions about any of the points. I do not blame you for making this choice

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ill wait till it gets crystalized tyvm

im going out in a bit so heres my jank reads/impressions before i go

Shadow_God_10 - playing the same as i always see him play. not gonna get a read here this early and not looking to lynch here anyways d0

mellonxcollie - would like to see some more posts especially around eod cause i feel thats when i get a good read on raekos alignment

Hakulyte - same boat as shado. d0 isnt the day to catch him wolfing

flashflash account - ngl ill policy lynch him before i put up with someone saying i should lead d0 lmao

YoshL - really gone tone on the posts ive read

fatfuck42 - hes done like nothing tho

TWGma - a few spicy posts that i liked so hes above average

Funnygurl555 - its a bad sign when i cant remember anything specific about you

the sun fan - still not buying his explanation fully but i guess he can stay off the table today

Xiz - playing alot more cautiously than im used to seeing. no idea if thats wolfy or not at this point

DaBackpack - if dbp doesnt deliver ill prob lynch here

Ulleabhara - theres content here but i need context to frame it in. so i guess i can wait for more content

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749670)

I read it and I have no better understanding of hakus mindset than before. or any conclusions about any of the points. I do not blame you for making this choice

good stuff, thanks for confirming lol

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did a double check on the ppl i dont like and i guess fatfuck has done stuff ive just completely ignored it lol

so i guess my lynch list is looking like dbp / funny / maybe ffa

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actually ffa

lets have a d0 thunderdome. id rather exit the game early than put up with the lazy way u play anyways

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ooooooo spicy

I look forward to the dome

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749674)

actually ffa

lets have a d0 thunderdome. id rather exit the game early than put up with the lazy way u play anyways

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I went to the gym for the first time since April today
I was trying something I've never tried before and my arms gave out and I ended up with the bar in a really unnatural position; I've been very wobbly since

today is not a good day for my self-esteem

why am I telling you this? its an omen
we aren't going to hit a wolf today

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749677)

get this negative attitude OUT OF THIS THREAD

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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749671)

YoshL - really gone tone on the posts ive read

what

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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749679)

what

good*

typo had to happen eventually when im phone posting

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every townread that Yoshl is getting is marginally disrespectful to Yoshl's scum range

Freezin, you were there in the Sacred Stones game saying "if Yoshl is scum, we've lost to him." If you're just giving him a d0 read, fine

Xiz, you know your townread of Yoshl is far too strong, like you have to be aware of this

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Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4749678)

get this negative attitude OUT OF THIS THREAD

you know how old people's knees can tell when its going to rain?
this is basically that

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749681)

every townread that Yoshl is getting is marginally disrespectful to Yoshl's scum range

Beat me to it.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone should always live in fear of yoshl.

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749681)

Xiz, you know your townread of Yoshl is far too strong, like you have to be aware of this

explain to me why it's too strong? Should I be looking more into yoshl? I'd argue out of the playerlist today he is one of the most vocally towny players proving what feels like natural responses, or at least trying to prod players.

Or is it because you just full on disagree with my mindset of how I'm aproaching wolves this game, because this feels rather opportunistic of you

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In all seriousness, I've done my best trying to explain what my train of thought has been this game so far.

It might not be how yall are currently approaching finding wolves but I have never in TWG made a more honest post about my logic and just posting it right off the bat. In the past I've said "lol youll find out later" which gets me killed, or I've been more aggressive which has gotten me killed, and I just really, really don't want to be mislynched again because of this. I feel like at least in the past 10 games the only time when people trust me is when I'm so uncomfortably town that I snipe all 3 wolves instantly (see the jojo meme game with raeko).

I'm really trying to adjust my meta to help expalin myself more due to previously getting off'd as a blue one too many times. (no, this isnt a blue soft)

Also, thank you haku, I look forward to looking at you d2 or d3 lol

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So sunfan, even if you disagree about my opinion on yoshl, i'm still holding my ground.

No, it's not too strong for looking at just d1. I am clearing yoshl off the table. His tone between you and him and his response to being not mindmeldy with you, then explaining his approach is something a wolf just doesn't do.

If he is a wolf here, great. whatever. There are pleanty of other days where he can be looked at but no I believe it's a damn good read.

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So Ul has responded a bit. Waiting for them to give any reads. I still like where my vote is on them at the moment.

I still like where my vote is.

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oof i need to eat lunch i'm repeating myself. repeating myself.

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At the start of the game I was entertaining the possibility that haku/shadow are wolfing together, but I've cooled on that idea now. Some of that stemmed from shadow seeming different from when I played with him in the AC game. He seemed more agro/adversarial here, but as the phase has gone on he's been acting more and more like Eugene so I feel he's town now.

Freezin seems natural and legit in terms of tone, focus, analysis, etc etc, so I think he's town. Same goes for Xiz and sunfan, but I don't want to lean too heavily into townreading them until I see an EOD or two. Let's say I'm cautiously optimistic there.

Ulle I'm a little less certain on now. Gut still says town, but her last big post reminds me too much of how I (and I suppose roundbox as well) tend to wolf. I'm not sure where the line of "a wolf would be more cautious of posting wolf-style" and "this is a wolf posting wolf-style" is...

FFA I'm really torn on, and that's kinda where I've been focusing. I think in general his posts and pushes read wolfy, but then when I asked him those questions earlier his response was quick and cogent, making me think he actually believes what he's putting forward and doesn't need to consult his fake narrative to make sure his story lines up. For others who've played with him when he's a wolf, how good is he at thinking on his feet?

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That's less of a reads list and more me trying to vocalize my thought process since freezin made me realize I haven't really been doing that, lol

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749685)

alright, I wasn't expecting an exposé on this from you.

wrt mindset, I don't think you and I have really been on the same page, but to say that I "full on disagree with your mindset" would definitely be going too far.

Maybe part of this is the fact that you wolfed with Yoshl in Sacred Stones (where he was self-admittedly rusty) rather than were forced to play town against him, but I believe in my heart that Yoshl would answer my question of "Is what you said to me firmly within your scum range?" with the answer of "yes, it is." Now, he might not do this, because fuck sunfan, but I do believe that he has done nothing that should be clearing. Yoshl doesn't know how to not be a "vocally towny player [prodding people's responses.]"

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749686)

I can sympathize with the mislynch bit, at least.

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749687)

So sunfan, even if you disagree about my opinion on yoshl, i'm still holding my ground.

No, it's not too strong for looking at just d1. I am clearing yoshl off the table. His tone between you and him and his response to being not mindmeldy with you, then explaining his approach is something a wolf just doesn't do.

If he is a wolf here, great. whatever. There are pleanty of days where he can be looked at no I believe it's a damn good read.

Go for it, hold your ground, buy 15 AR-15s and unload all of them into the air.

I'm not calling Yoshl scummy. My read on Yoshl is that he is on the signups list, and has a d0 pass from me. My point is that Yoshl can absolutely be mafia here. If your read is just a d0 pass, then we're closer than I thought we were on this read, but yours seems to have a very weak reason for justification, and you seem to be insisting that it is very strong.

The actual moment itself that you're talking about, yeah, it doesn't feel scummy to me, but that's about where that read ends for me. Even if Yoshl were scummy today, its not really the person I want to but heads with today (in fact, its the last person I would've tried to try to push a kill on [regardless of my alignment] today pre-signups, with Freezin being a close second and Haku being a virtual inevitability).

If you insist on the read, fine, I think its not a damn good read, and can easily be wrong. You haven't found Yoshl town for the right reasons, but yes, Yoshl has plenty

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posted too quickly

Yoshl has plenty of room to be town**

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749690)

FFA I'm really torn on, and that's kinda where I've been focusing. I think in general his posts and pushes read wolfy, but then when I asked him those questions earlier his response was quick and cogent, making me think he actually believes what he's putting forward and doesn't need to consult his fake narrative to make sure his story lines up. For others who've played with him when he's a wolf, how good is he at thinking on his feet?

somehow, it feels like its been a while since I've seen him as a wolf, even though it maybe hasn't been that long? he'd remember better than I would, I suppose.

I'd say he's able to remain consistent, he's not even really said too many words I don't think it'd be hard for him to remember what he's said or done.

Not sure if this is what you're asking.

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749691)

That's less of a reads list and more me trying to vocalize my thought process since freezin made me realize I haven't really been doing that, lol

yeah I kinda forgot you were in the game till you backed me up on the Yoshl thing

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749694)

That's essentially what I'm asking, yeah. A mix of that and whether, like, if he's a wolf and you're both in the thread and arguing with each other, whether he's comfortable getting back to you in (for the sake of example) a minute rather than five minutes, ten minutes, etc.

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Votecount:
TWGma (2) - Funnygurl555, the sun fan
flashflash account (2) - fatfuck42, FreezinIce
Ulleabhara (2) - Xiz, Shadow_God_10
Funnygurl555 (1) - TWGma

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Not Voting (6): mellonxcollie, Hakulyte, flashflash account, YoshL, DaBackpack, Ulleabhara

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749696)

ah, ok
he's absolutely addicted to mafia, he loves it to death

quick responses are his only mode in that regard

he's probably in a few other games on other sites right now (he was previously alive in a game that FG and I are both still alive in on another site, for example)

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Yes, yoshl has a d0 pass to me.

Sunfan, with the 2-3 posts Ul has made, has that changed your view on them?

Also how do you compare the lack of activity from Ul to someone like funny, and does that hold weight to ya

Bonus points if you explain why

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4749682)

you know how old people's knees can tell when its going to rain?
this is basically that

That would be bones you're referencing. Not knees.
Damn youngins.

Also, today is a fantastic day and nothing you all say or do can take away from that.

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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749690)

My experiences with FFA have led to this:
If FFA seems disagreeable and wolfy, he's probably town.
If he's agreeable and generally pleasant in the thread, he's probably wolf.

I realize that's cherry-picking on the same person I've basically spent all gamer talking about, but nyeh, I really don't care right now, and won't until day 1 begins.

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Good morning guys and gals! I'll do some catching up in a bit

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4749699)

my view on Ul is relatively the same as to what it was before based solely on her posts, but obviously inactivity is never a good look so I don't think that I will shed a tear if she's lynched.

I think there is 10000000000000% a disposition towards overreacting to whenever someone makes a post like she did on FFR. It ought to not be illegal for you to talk about what roles should do without someone jumping down your throat about "hEY! shut up about the blues roles, ok!?" I knew what Haku's post was essentially going to say before I scrolled down to read all of it, because that's just who he is.

To expand a bit more on that, no one asked her to do it. I replaced into a slot on another site (I replaced into a scum slot, rather), and the person I was replacing had done a similarish post to that where no one had asked her to make that post, and it really was her just trying to say a lot of words and hope that it looked like she was being helpful. I will further state that these situations are different by saying that this person was not a slanker, and had a respectable postcount (wasn't the highest, but certainly wasn't trying to fly under the radar, don't remember what the number was at the time I replaced).

This... doesn't really feel like that to me, though I guess it could be. I just kind of believe that Ull made that post because she was trying to get into the headspace of mafia. I feel somewhat filthy making this read, but it seems like she is at a crossroads in her life, and she wanted to return to TWG. This feels like her trying to return to form, regardless of her alignment. People don't often lie about their meta, even when it can't be reasonably verified, so I don't really believe that this is some scum-sided post that is meant to root out the power roles. It is possible that this is a post that was made in order to appear helpful, without actually being so.

I will grant that the case is more developed than "SHE MENTIONED POWER ROLES! SHE MENTIONED POWER ROLES! NOT IN MY GAME!" which is normally about as deep as things get in this regard. In particular, raeko's read (I think it was raeko, I could be remembering wrong) that this was done without any attempt to connect any of it to the game, that I can agree with. Her content since was very lacking, and if she dies without providing any more content, I won't really cry about it.

There was, in my opinion, an awful lot of attention given to her post that I don't think was warranted. Almost everyone scumread it, aside from myself and plop (who has said that it was quite townie), or been confused by it (Lewdy can't handle posts more than 20 words anyways without a lady's bosom practically falling out of her top being the avatar of the person making the post)

TL;DR I think that there's much ado about nothing over her post. I don't think it is townie or wolfy, but rather an attempt to try to get into the game, and culture clash struck. If she is communicative in wolf chat (I don't know a thing about her wolf game), hopefully wolfchat would've advised her not to make it, but I know better than to speculate on wolfchat. Without more content, I am happy to see her killed today, but I don't think she is particularly scummy (I really ought to try to hammer out my reads more anyways)

the fg stuff lol idk she's in like 5 TWG games simultaneously right now and she works weird hours given her sleep schedule. I think that the inactivity between two slots is likely incomparable. DBP is always like this, for example. I know FG is in a lot of games. That doesn't make me think that either of them are more or less likely to be scum, but it makes me happier to see them killed due to the nature of inactives generally being wolves.

There, one exposé returned with another