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Good End 2
WOLVES WIN BAD END Good End 2 is here! Defeat the wolves among you and fight for your Good End! The power roles on both sides start off basic and weak, but dynamically evolve based on the decisions you make during the game. Are you the type of person to use your power for your own satisfaction? Or do you make mechanically correct plays even at the cost of your own excitement? Your role will change based on what you do. Use these tools at your disposal to make sure your team comes out on top! ======== Player list: 1. Hakulyte Regular Seer Another, killed n3 2. Bugkid666 Basic Townie, survived to lose 3. Mellonxcollie Basic Townie, lynched d3 4. XelNya Informant, survived to win 5. Funnygirl555 True Phantom Thief, lynched d4 6. Flashflash account Basic Jailkeeper, killed n1 7. Wayward Vagabond, _Zenith_ Enforcer Another, survived to win 8. Cedolad Basic Townie, lynched d5 9. Shadow_God_10 Basic Townie, killed n2 10. the sun fan Basic Townie, lynched d1 11. Xiz Alien XY, lynched d2 12. SubaruPoptart Basic Townie, survived to lose 13. evanescence_death4ever, MixMasterLar Regular Watcher, killed n4 Replacements: 1. _Zenith_ 2. Bolth mannn 3. MixMasterLar |
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https://discord.gg/gA29Myx < Deadchat
https://discord.gg/CWPf5Re < Wolfchat https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing < Role List and mechanics |
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Well, I think that was the worst TWG game I’ve ever spectated.
Freezins setup deserved better :( MML played well, zenith also made a good effort in last phase but there were so many holes in his story I’m shocked town didn’t see past it. Yea thats all I got |
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Haku played good He did |
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Haku played well but I was salty he got rid of alien so fast
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My opinion is that near the end that shouldve been a fairly cut and dry town win that was thwarted by subaru forgetting once again when eod is and failing to vote. Bugkid and Cedo pretty much had the spirit of the situation figured out. Mechanics trump everything in this situation and Zeniths explanation made very little sense. He had to to keep telling lies to cover his tracks and believing him or believing MML was a classic occams razor situation. Zenith voting for cedo in lylo creates a situation where if he flips wolf, Xel is all but certainly the last wolf. Xel openly probed for subaru's opinion in what shouldve been a straightforward situation from his point of view if he was green sealed the deal. But again, lack of a hammer from Subaru hamstrung town and the day end went to kitb which cedo sadly lost |
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I sort of feel the same way. If i rerolled it i would simplify things a bit but Alien dying so quickly combined with general inactivity on the back end made me sad. and there were so many derp plays like killing sunfan d0 and raeko dying at all |
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Every one of you shoupd be ashamed up to and including Zenith for that Steve Rodger tier shit claim thad anyone stop and thought about for two seconds
The worst game from start to finish I've ever played. First half both sides just didnt care and last phase both sides didn't think |
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MVP is split between Xelnya and MML
Xelnya played a great game until the small misstep at the end but i cant really fault him for that due to the situation being somewhat out of his control. MML despite being on the losing team replaced in, cleaned up the slot, and completely dominated the game. He played like a rockstar and even left the keys to the kingdom for town to win that they failed to capitalize on. |
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Whats worse, that or Zenith conversing with me after my claim and then pretending he couldnt CC me becausecwork?
Plus any idiot who could read would know i unvoted for most of the phase, including before you even saw it But hey town's not gonna actually check I guess |
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This was one of the better games I've played I think, but man...
I was so sad to see town derail from the bleachers |
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Also I cannot believe I got killed because wolf team believed Xiz's info
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Sorry guys work has been hell and had I known it was going to be how it's been I wouldn't have signed up to begin with
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I lied about my PR role and voted poorly. So, no MVP here for sure.
My main concern had to do with separating low activity town players from wolf team. I felt like I had to rely heavily on meta to push the game in the right direction. I wish people posted more with the attempt to solve each other. |
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really glad wolves won
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and was only like 1/3rd right lol
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I think there was a lot that went wrong here
you just have to vote, guys if I make a funny meme video about it would that convince you guys to do it more often? |
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no one's really said bugkid did a good job
I think bugkid did a good job |
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I didn't get to play
FG didn't even TRY to pocket me smh |
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ok i didn't follow this game at all and also didnt read the mechanics. but i did read the last phase and correct me if im wrong but what i saw was: zenith was mod confirmed to have visited the dead player. but he also said he is a watcher. but then watched a person other than the person the mod said he visited. but then outed tracking results instead of a watch???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I mentioned the Dichotomy game for a specific reason here, but I did exactly this gambit in that game which caused us to win with the entire wolf team intact, however it wasn't pretty then and it certainly wasn't pretty now.
Our original plan wasn't for me to do this, this was my snap decision after seeing MML use something to out publicly who targeted/visited him in the night. We were banking on Bug still maintaining his Cedo wolf read and once he flipped we both thought it was over. I felt like my entry was fine, but obviously I rapidly deteriorated as the game progressed, and I was absolutely swamped with work to where I couldn't even get into thread for nearly an entire phase, and I actively broke rules at work just to post that last day and I really did appreciate people bashing me for it. Xel definitely deserved MVP here, he was playing a terrifying wolf game and got himself into deep wolf before my gambit and everything and the funny part was he wasn't trying all that hard to do it. Unfortunately though, I came to the realization that I just cannot play TWG any longer due to how busy I am with what's going on with my life, so I will be retiring from it for I'm not sure how long, but I cannot keep having people bash me for it while I'm at work or just busy with school/etc, and it isn't fair to any of the players to have to deal with an inactive. I don't want any sappiness to transpire because of this, this is just the most logical option for me, but hey I got to go out on a wolf win :^ ) Had fun regardless, and thank you for hosting Freezin! |
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My role ability that night allowed me to mask the flip of any given player so that's why MML never got confirmed PR in the flip. |
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Compare raeko voters to the people that didn't vote FG
Kill them Win werewolf game |
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The raeko voterush was dirty and I'm surprised to see little mention of it here
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Also wow what the hell the game ended in a kitb
Reminds me of being abandoned by my fellow townies at the end of the first FE mystery game |
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Gonna chat about some stuff real quick
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I might be hard blinded by being a wolf here, but her push on shadow was actually dirty as hell, and was pretty bad imho considering the timing Though RB your post has flaws, town literally insta'd while quite a few people weren't in thread, even if mechanically it looks correct (and it is) I don't think in that situation you can hard act on it in good faith to the game. Quote:
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Like who we sent for kills a lot in this game mattered, and FG did most of them with Zenith picking up the others. I felt we made it to final 3 9 /10 times with how that game was going, purely because unless we missed every PR I was always seen town. My worst play was the Mellon vote, but I totally feel I had that writing on the wall laid out before I did it, and that it was "in character." Other than what freezin pointed out was me probing at the end of the game, and even if I had voted Zenith I think I'd have lost for it at the end. Pretty much is most of my thoughts, other than one, which is likely more of a salt thing that I'll keep to myself. I had a good wolf game. I'm pretty happy with it. Got some notes for improvement. All's good. |
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What a fucking goddamn shit show |
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am I missing something or in what world did I make a push on Shadow??
literally wat |
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the vote on me was bad plain and simple rofl
I have no idea what game you were reading Xel but I never made a push on lewdy |
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GG wolves
bad play town including myself lol but hey can't win em all. And honestly Zenith good on you for doing the claim, even if it was wonky it worked. and a lot of people wouldn't have tried such a gutsy play, so good job |
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MML I love you and you are a great person but sometimes your playstyle makes it hard to play with you.
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the raeko lynch was hilarious cause i shoulda died there but yall did your cfd.
C F D C F D |
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in future games can ppl stop being so aggro too? thanks. that's toxic |
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I think I am planning on making a post about toxicity come either tonight or tomorrow
I am probably going to ask for another TWG moderator as well |
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quote from me copied from wolfchat @zenith since you arnt there anymore
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Toxicity in werewolf, no way!
gg's tho |
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Thanks Raeko and Freezing, I appreciate the words
I kept saying in wolf chat that I didn't want to do it, but I felt forced into it because MML selected me the final night and outed me and I had to run with something. Hopefully this was just a learning experience, I felt everyone played a fair game but as it's been said, nobody was looking for the important points that would have sealed the deal, and it doesn't help having a wolf gun you down like I did with Cedo. Love you Cedo, please don't hate me. Bugkid please play more, you're definitely a good up and comer, and I apologize for swearing at you, I promise it was all game related and not personal. |
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I never read that game, i keep meaning to since it keeps being referenced
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Some of y'all really need to chill and play the damn game rather than try and prove you're the smartest one in the room. <3 deuces |
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I think being toxic is about intention - like, there are posts on here that's totally me being toxic, and being blunt about it. In fact the last time, I was literally rubbing it in. But Lar and I being like "you're a fucking daft fuck" in game isn't toxic, it's just getting heated? Might just be me on that one, but like, it's totally not personal. It's just in the game kinda moments. |
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yeah... honestly it's hard to avoid getting heated during these games.
But you kinda have to take it for what it is within the game. I see werewolf as a true role playing game; we are not really ourselves, we are playing a role. Both me and Xel and me and Lar have REALLY had it out in games, for example. There has been harshness between myself and most of the people who play TWG tbh. But I hold no ill will toward any of them and honestly don't even remember anything specific that was said during these exchanges. they were just part of the game and we all moved on once it was over. the game is about lying to your friends so it's bound to get messy at points lol |
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I've been banned from TWG in the past from several games and even got an award for it, my swearing was toxic, just fuel to get a response really. I didn't mean any harm from it, and I agree with what Raeko and Xel just said about it
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I get what the three of you are saying, but I don't personally agree. It is not necessary, it turns people away from the game, and it turns it into something mentally draining and not fun
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i guess on that tangent my experiences doing improv and playing twg had many similarities. i used to really look up to xiz esp with how welcoming he is so i tried to be an irl xiz. i mean i still look up to xiz i guess but y'no
anyways i was successful and i got to positively impact people's college experiences that way and it's one of my SUCCESSES |
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to be fair to xel his toxicity was entertaining me so much that I gave him a D3+ pass from it alone
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like forum TWG is a mentally draining game. it just is. One of the main reasons I fuck up as either side is not having the emotional/mental energy to get truly invested into the game. it's part of the game
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I love both of them to bits, and theyre both very good players, but one plays toxic, one does not I don't personally find this game mentally draining when people arent being dickheads to each other I'm not trying to say heated posts don't exist within the game, but when almost every post someone makes is written in an angry or condescending way, THAT should not be how TWG is done. Or you can continue as you guys are, people will slowly drop off as they have been, no new people will be interesting in putting up with this shit, and the FFR TWG community will die. |
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I agree with bolth. As someone who has had some toxic posts in games, I really consciously try to not do that anymore. There’s definitely a few people who need to work on that and it’s totally different from just being emotional. Think games are a lot better for everyone involved if toxicity is limited especially given our small community and site culture
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if yall want an example of imo a perfect twg community that is both intense and respectful towards one another then check out the syndicate
what an incredible crew. they smashed champs this year too |
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twg is a game in the end and it's supposed to be fun. peoples feelings shouldn't get hurt.
like survivor was intense and it was a good community bonding experience too -ya girl |
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I know insta was hit, but an insta in MYLO is probably triggered by town dunking a wolf or a wolf ending the conversation early to not leak the whole team
yeah, there's no 100% certainty in TWG, I'll grant you that, but this is a game state move where wolves just need one more town out of the game to win one busing there is just doing it to silence the conversation and +townpoint themself, I think. I don't see a situation where two wolves would bus the third in such a manner given how the votes piled onto FG |
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imagine if twg bans meant anything
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No, go ahead, paint yourself into even more of a corner than you already are.
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It's just a game anyways, people had issues with my play this game and think I'm 2IQ for trying but it just rolls off the back because it's a game lol. |
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Idk I still have fun either way
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Angry play can be fun to watch but it's mentally exhausting when i just have to slog through some dude insulting me to try to shake me off for weeks at a time.
I try not to do it and actively step away if I'm getting heated |
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I agree with raeko twg itself is an emotional experience with lies and deception so sanitizing it completely seems pointless but there's a line and that's something i havnt always realized
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Edit: Also by "I don't get any nicer" if you translate it to "I refuse to be any nicer" it would still be accurate. |
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