Lofty Megapack 6 - The Invocation Pentafiles
 

Fuck it, you know whats in here.

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hype

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yo, i dont rly feel like bumping the lofty appreciation thread,

but i gotta say, i've been playing vostochni express a lot lately, and its fuckin fun as hell

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I think I might have an exclusive sneak peak for you guys idk where tho

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there's a lofty 4 and 5?

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The banners just keep getting better

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you have to flip it upside down for wumbo

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:smirk:

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I.

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II.

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wow this is a pretty good thread, nice job lofty

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morning

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Esurgent mortuit et ac me veniut

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though stepcromancy (not to be confused with velcromancy) i have forcibly brought back part of puppets stepsoul to partake in this endeavor

i would say this is now the invocation hexafiles but that's what it should have been to begin with so this is now the invocation stepafiles

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Septastepfiles

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can i dump somethin for this?

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can i sump domething for this?

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Wuts this.

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No.

No.

Yes, you have work to do.

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but i dump

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Well, when the pack is opened anyone will be able to submit.

Mina is helping me out with judging this go around, and I'd be aware that he will have no problem denying files, and critiquing them as he sees fit.

Only send your best stuff.

*WHEN SUBMISSIONS OPEN* which is not now.

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III.

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IV.

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light em up

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Hype.

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V.

SEE OP

Pack has about 24 files so far.
we are looking to have about 40.

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lofty is cool

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might submit something

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yo ima take a dump

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applause sound effect:

[10:10:58 PM] Mina: lets say
[10:11:00 PM] Mina: you needed an aerospace engineer
[10:11:03 PM] Mina: and someone came in and was like
[10:11:05 PM] Mina: yo mah ***** wassup
[10:11:07 PM] Mina: heres my planes
[10:11:10 PM] Mina: then takes a piece of paper off your desk
[10:11:14 PM] Mina: folds it into a paper plane
[10:11:17 PM] Mina: and throws it at your face
[10:11:21 PM] Mina: do you a) check his credentials
[10:11:26 PM] Mina: or b) throw him the fuck out
[10:11:56 PM] Mina: look i'm all for hedging on the adventurous side
[10:12:00 PM] Mina: but there's a line you don't cross
[10:12:14 PM] Mina: im not going to accept any tv static ripoffs
[10:12:20 PM] Mina: and i shouldnt have to fucking even say that out loud

tl;dr you can't be serious

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I did say this ^

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hol up

okay, so i didn't know what tv static was until just now - is this it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drb_9a4NN2Q

if that's the case, i see why you think its a ripoff but if its any help to my case i didnt know that tv static file existed. never heard of it til now.

but.. it kind of is a serious file... not gonna lie, i spent way more time than im willing to admit syncing this shit. i mean i know it was a long shot, but i figured i'd see what comes of it. and i honestly wanted to make something that challenges your recognition of patterns in an interesting way. ugh now i'm explaining a joke and ruining it

well think about it ok?

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If you want to prove something to either Mina, or myself, I'd send something with some music.

We will not be thinking about this further.

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nah nevermind, i guess i missed the point of 'dump files'

but its cool, i did ask u to tear it up, just dont hate me k???

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I don't think anyone is really tearing the fuck out of you as long as you're willing to learn from the very poor reception of whatever it is that you sent in; your standing relative to this situation is what you make of it really


that being said - based on the reception of your submission according to what people are saying here, it is pretty evident that your perception of dump charting is indeed fundamentally flawed

there is no rule stating that dump files are by definition characterized by low-quality patterns set to abrasive wall noise garbage for w/e reason

there is no rule stating that dump files are by definition bereft of any coherent patterning structure whatsoever

and thus consequently, and most importantly of all,
there is no rule stating that dump files are by definition bereft of any qualitative value whatsoever

as a matter of fact this misconception is something that people such as mina, lofty, scintill and skwid have been actively challenging through very respectable efforts in the past few years if not more than that


people choose to play files based on what it feels like to experience them as a player executing the patterns; if your file holds no value in that respect, then it is automatically of no value to anyone else regardless of whatever infantile amusement you may derive from ironically putting down shitty patterns to wall noise under ddream or w/e - the point I'm trying to get across is that even though dump files differ from more conventional ones in regards to how certain patterns are placed relative to certain sounds, this principle remains very much in effect nonetheless

your file holds no qualitative value whatsoever, and the fact that you have clearly disregarded that factor just comes to show how utterly futile your current stance will remain when aspiring to amount to anything in that figurative line of work unless you are willing to change it - this is further reinforced by lofty specifically requesting that people send in their best stuff


if you do sincerely wish to learn from the error of your ways, lofty's 3rd pack and mina's 4th pack are good places to start... or you could just wait till this pack gets released as I do find the currently-approved material within it to be quite respectable even as it stands for now

notable files worth checking out would be addicted to love, desenchantee, desire of ages, prototype, scarlatti 2.0, and last but most certainly not least the poet and the pendulum - scary halloween show (yolomania 3) is also a very solid example worth looking at

if not... then suit yourself I guess, just don't be surprised anymore at how people are going to take it

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look, i wouldn't have sent a file if it was devoid of effort. the notes in the file are not arbitrary. it's cool if ya'll don't like the file, but don't write it off as unplayable or bereft of value.

i feel like you guys are disrespected by me trying to make a dump file? if that's the case, my bad! just drop it and i'll leave dumps alone.. forgive and forget ok? sheesh

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Your error was more one of "song" choice than anything else.

All anyone is pointing out is that dump files can be songs that are enjoyable and charts that are fun.

I'll say this again, because it seems as though you missed it: I urge you to chart something musical and send it in. We will both be glad to review it.

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I see you want quality dumps
So I sent you 4 shitty ones
Have fun, stupid

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Fuck you!!

Received. Will review by end of week or w.e

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I may have something, I swear I put a lot of effort in it.

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Wait a second

This is pack #6
With penta in the name
Penta = 5

??????

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5 invocation files
6th Midare pack geez people get with the program

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I have a paper
I have airplane
duDUduDU uhhh
paper airplane

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Well now i can't make a decision, you can keep your files man, i'll send some files for you next week, hope it would be up to your standards

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lowkey scared to submit to this pack since the bully crew is reviewing submissions

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There is no need to be.
We are looking forward to your submissions.

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Aku no Hana (windmill) - This is kind of like crowdpleaser only if the trills were at the end and the file was less interesting prior to it and it went to anime. I recognize this lends itself to your general style however I find it a frustrating exaggeration of it.
48th trillz

And the Vulture Beholds (kabopius) - Very eveningeqsue, aside from the runningmen which feel great. File tends to be slightly right hand biased and some of the tighter 24th patterns might be better off loosened up but it's good as-is.
kbro

Chokoreito (porousdong) - There's some pretty neat stuff in here. There's also some pretty unplayable garbage, but I'll work with you to shape it up.
accepted pending major revision

Dat $tick (skwalamari) - Good song choice for broken 64th burst stream. Intro needs to be cut but I can do that. Non 64th parts of the file could use another detail pass if you want.
rap song that isn't by bouncy j

Pen Pineapple Apple Pen (perkyplump) - Great stuff. You aren't afraid to use patterns that most people would consider to be annoying or obnoxious and good enough to make them play well. Only comment is that the ending jack is a touch aggressive.
limeapple

Really Long Title (treehill) - I have the same general reservations about this file that I did aku no hana. The difficulty spike at the end is so high that the file is either boring for a minute and then interesting for about 10 seconds, or playable for a minute and then rage inducing. Looking at it in the editor I thought it might make an o.k. bursty accuracy file but it just doesn't play that way in actuality.
plus the title is really long how do i wordplay off that

Scapegoat Boy (soiltill) - A little long but it's a nice jack file. Jacks are left hand biased however not only is it musically justified it's musically demanded. Personally I feel like you could have taken more (many mores) liberties with the chorus and sculpted some more interesting stuff into the slower areas. The solo, as short as it is, is still great to play through. As it stands it does adhere to your more technical style, though I think it would benefit from getting a stab of scary halloween show.
up2um8

Vitamin B (saucykrill) - I'm going to be honest not only would I have minded accepting this but I stepped telephone shopping and nearly submitted it myself however neon chewed my ass out over it and now I'm rejecting this out of spite.
i mean its really rejected because it's an 11 second file with 80 notes 60 of which are in a less than 2 second burst and the easier difficulties don't exactly completely salvage it

Your 10% (palpablepulp) - I haven't had a chance to play this yet but I've gone over it in the editor and it's already been greenlit by neon. Great file, a+ construction, excellent attention to detail. I'm worried that some of the denser 32nd patterns might be unreasonably difficult but if they are I'll let you know. There's a clear grace note at 6.063 which you (un)intentionally? omitted despite putting an arrow to one a couple seconds later. The slow section after the halfway mark could use some slowdownbuildupclimax theory and I wouldn't mind seeing some extra layering towards the end of it before the last quarter of the song.
u are good at this

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oh

I gave Scapegoat Boy the lowest chance of getting accepted
I gave Aku no Hana the highest btw

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Edited OP to show up-to-date song list.

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yeah i generally don't take care of song cut stuff until i'm about to release something so i forgot about that. i'm definitely gonna go through and fix some issues i have with the file though. there are a couple of unnecessarily awkward transitions (particularly with the 96th burst and the transition out of the first chorus) i'm gonna touch up as well as a couple of other consistency issues.

i'm really happy with the "gimmick" of the file though.

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sent something

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o you like runningmen. ok.

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fucking LOL

I missed this

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i am runningmen

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You are stepmania

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Streaming some play throughs of stuff

if anyone is interested in what is included so far: https://www.twitch.tv/loftyrhino

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where spedcor

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wer colab

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Speedbore Blandy [REBUKE] (aloof) - So there's nothing technically wrong with this file, which is the first problem. Given that this is a dump pack from and evaluating from that given perspective the medium chart misses a lot of opportunities (I mean its a technical chart, so this is kind of a tautological statement). Personally while I don't care for the music I find the chart playable and even somewhat enjoyable, however it would be better suited for an Icyworld pack and that's where it should go. The hard chart I suppose may be considered a technical dump. The repeated [14] jumpjacks are incredibly draining given the heavily anchored nature of the file and the drudgery of that is only broken by half dozen measure long left hand trills with inlaid jacks. I have a hard time imagining anyone enjoying the file even at 1.0.
fine execution but poor premise

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rip
gonna send another chart

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where putaria

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reviews today after i dump another half a day into tyranny

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@choof you need to let me know if you have intentions of finishing the collab file. If not, I'm going to have to chart the rest.

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I'll work on it this week

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Addiction 451 (broomtheatre) - That intro oh my god dme flashbacks. I have no idea what's going on with the file or song but I'm fairly certain I found it fun.
accepted by decree of lord loftysaurus due to my confused ambivalence

Do You Freeze it? (hamsterdam) - Freezestream:


From what I understand lofty is working with you on revising this and it's accepted pending said revisions. I mostly don't mind the file as-is personally however I really think you failed to capture the vocal intensity and pitch dynamic at 104.1s, other than that there's some rough stuff but nothing else that I strongly feel needs to be addressed.
chill leisure dump for the less skilled

Old Yeller (laffytaffy) - I'm not a huge fan of how abruptly the intro 32nds fall away into 16ths. I understand why you did it but I'd prefer to see 32nds interspersed throughout the intro. Once again great non-conventional pattern use rooted in strong technical fundamentals. Good job.
lofty thinks the song is meh but hes dumb

Pun-ishment (quim) - Wow you took this song in a completely different direction than I would have. There are some super nitpicky details that I want to fix (like an 8th anchor starting a note late halfway through the file). I also find myself wondering why you chose not to place a jumptrill starting at 93.2s when you had done so to the same sound everywhere else. There are some really cool things going on in the instrumentals that I think you captured well, however I also think the file would be greatly served by using 16th minitrill patterns in the section rather than minirolls.
vocals in the song are kinda meh imo i could be dum tho

purediarrhea (deluge) - Some of the patterning in this is excellent, but unfortunately this suffers from the same systemic issue shared by most of the other rejected files. About half the file is 5 nps and the other half is 30; the ending spikes to over 40 with mash inducing patterns reminiscent of spica. The result is an uneven play experience that almost inevitably results in frustration and a lack of satisfaction. Not what the pack is looking for.
file isn't that bad tbh but i couldn't pass up the wordplay

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so should I tone down the ending or make the beginning harder lol
probably tone down the ending

edit: lol "deluge"

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The whole file would need a structural reworking given that the "song" was no longer the "song" you chose.

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i have no idea what that means

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It means: try again.

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okay i tone down ending and resend 2 u

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k buffed up the entire intro

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Got it.
Thanks, Porky!

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sent cbr's op

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Yah I sent it to Mina as soon as a I received it.
Should have some reviews soonish

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Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation Certified Operator [CPR Op] (loafers) - Solid file. If the ending weren't so hard I'd like to see the slow section more fleshed out, but it's fine. The last few measures of the 32nds are super right hand triplet biased so if you want to fluff out the hand balance a bit that's up to you.
wayner

Stop n gimmie a lifty (squintaclemonster) - Amusing song/chart. Fun to play. There are some nitpicky as fuck things like the super close mines at 105 but I'll change them.
tickle dat cat

Hold the Line (wafles)
k

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**DING* *DING* *DING**

CONGRATULATIONS CHOOBERS


Give me my fucking collab, bitch.

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maybe when ur're'ere aolder?! !

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Just wondering what that the status on my file was. If I need to make any changes or whatever.

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ur good to go, theres like one or two really awkward notes in the ending stream but i can iron them out