We need more "stepmania" twitch streams
 

Only a matter of time before someone starts streaming nekopara lol.

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yes

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ok.

btw I streamed nekopara before

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doesn't count if it was the sfw steam version.
-wth though it was streamed while listed as Stepmania so the live channel picked up on it lol.

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There are a few people I know that stream SM/FFR on a regular basis
Brandon (Etienne)
AJ (aka Halogen. He streams mainly FFR now I believe. I haven't seen him play SM in quite awhile now)
Wafles (He streams a fair amount)
MinaciousGrace(He's random, but he does it once in awhile)
Staiain (Streams quite often. Plays various styles too..aka solo, 4k, osumania)
Thunderflip (Streams FFR sometimes)
Haku (Streamed FFR last night)
Cammy (Streams FFR once in awhile)

I'd stream, but unless I get software that works with XP or upgrade OS, I'm not going to be streaming for awhile.

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Most of the the time I feel like FFR showcases Twitch Channels not from their own players.

Also I agree, sort of. There needs to be no more mislabeled streams, and far less Osu streams. I get that Osu is big but it's annoying as hell to watch one or even see one.

We need more Stepmania, FFR itself, maybe even FFR events like TWG started doing, and lastly step-artists showcasing a new song they are working on and viewers can watch it happen live.

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I won't be streaming too much FFR anymore now that I've become quite involved with osu!/osu!mania.

I do agree though; on FFR, it is a bit annoying to see osu! related streams. However, it'd be cool if we were able to make a team/partner page of some sort on Twitch so that only users who are registered as a part of that FFR team could be noticed on the front page's stream listing (and rather limiting to just FFR/SM/osu!, we could give priority to those games and then list those who are just streaming other things).

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I see how it is :<

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I'd be willing to see the possibility of making a team/partner page with Twitch.

Moreso my hostility towards OSU streams is that 90% of the time I'm expecting to see one of our very own FFR members actually playing but it's again 90% of the time a woman hopelessly playing but she has 300+ constant viewers because she's a woman.

I'm not a big Stream Viewer to be honest, but whenever I'm in the mood, I like to watch FFR like I have in the past (NeonSM, CarrotCake, etc) and it's especially cool to see when people change it up, try new things, creating content, etc.

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ecchi

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I see how it is :<

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Fixed :^)

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It bothers me that there are so many osu! streams compared to SM, considering how much it bores me to watch osu! imo. I'd like to get SM out there but I don't have the exposure.

Not really known as a good 4k player outside of fiffer lolol

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I actually stream SM sometimes, it's just that usually I don't change the "game currently playing" field to SM, so it doesn't show up here at all. More often though, I'm streaming CS GO and 1.6

twitch.tv/Superfreak04 if you're interested in following. Lately I haven't been streaming as much due to school and work, but I do it as often as I can.

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yeah osu! has been so publicized & praised upon in the rhythm gaming area that it draws the attention away from Stepmania. On top of that, a lot of people are starting to stream on hitbox rather than Twitch when it comes to Stepmania because it's better in terms of rhythm gaming & copyrights due to Twitch starting to take copyright action against streamers.

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I'd use sm to stream kshootmania. Sorry. Notsorry.

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literally die in a fire

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I literally clicked an osu stream to see what it was like and it was just some white guy singing along to an anime song (badly) while he played on a casual level with a bunch of people donating to him. I was so confused/disgusted. (Probably a biased first experience)

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hey me too

Yeah, having a team page on Twitch would be a good idea.

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Osu is fun to watch if it's like a D7 skill equivilent player playing actual Osu.

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"need" is a strong word

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No, we need them lol. Only time when there's a lot of people watching SM is whenever CirnoTV plays it here and there. The chat also gets extremely hype so it's obviously not a boring game to watch for the average viewer. Just a matter of how known you are.

We need more "stepmania" twitch streams
 

It seems that it actually is a feature. Any player can get more than 10FF no limit even if the dedicated screen shows 10 members slots starting from the 11th, it is scroll-able.

Please, delete thread.

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Lol

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is there a specific program that one should use to stream your game play?

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speedruns are much more popular than conventional skill playing, imo. ppl need to infiltrate that scene if theres to be any hope~

wasn't there a rate function on sm4 that sped up the rate as you got better (slowed down as you began to miss)? if you fabricate some "official course" of songs and played everything on that you could create a stepmania culture where you would literally be able to finish things quicker as you improved at the game~ just a thought

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staiain came up with a stepmania 100% run but i lost the pic

it was AAA or restart or something along those lines, you'd have to balance the rates so that you don't fuck up as much but still get the bonus

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Stai, Dynamo and I had a 30-file set (which could further be divided to 3 separate sets) for both 100% (AAAs) and 93% (AA, but you can think of it as the Any%) runs. Each set contained files from different generations of simfiling, Dynamo's set being old-school files such as Vanish Into Thin Air and Delirium, my set having mainly new files like Schur's Theorem and Oriens, while Stai's set is a mixture of the two.

Would be the best bet to make SM speedruns an actual thing, I guess.

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with osu!mania slowly becoming more like stepmania, I think a switch to o!m is inevitable
I know I'll be switching to play 6k/7k

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where as that will most likely be true, O!M timing is stupid, especially with holds (any RG that originates inside the eastern hemisphere has this double timing on holds)

I wouldn't know what to do when the day comes that O!M succeeds SM in every way.

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So streaming stepmania has a lot of problems

1. Quality of streams. The majority of people streaming stepmania stream at a pretty low quality, often 480p or lower. Quality matters. Your stream layout matters too. Make the game your focal point, and design everything else around that.

2. Player diversity. People play this game in a lot of different ways, there are a handful of low level players who stream pretty often, and obviously they struggle to draw viewers even more than the better ones. Couple this with StepMania pad streams, index, etc, and we get a really weird situation where people pretty much are only interested in watching the play style that they personally like, and its not easy to find a lot of streamers for the specific content you enjoy.

3. Chat interaction can only happen between songs. Very few players try to actively talk while playing, and this helps your viewer count a lot if you care about that kind of thing. This leads to people being dead silent during game play aside from the tapping, which will draw a lot of people who don't fully understand the skill involved to get pretty bored.

4. Mislabeling your streams. If you're streaming StepMania, change your game setting to say it. If you're streaming StepMania and label it as osu, or streaming something else and labeling it as StepMania, this hurts the people who have followed to StepMania as a game (which everyone should do btw). I don't know how popular the game following feature on Twitch is, but I use it all the time, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I couldn't tell you how many times I go to the Stepmania stream list, and click on a stream title that looks interesting only to find some guy playing league of legends instead. More descriptive stream titles would also help, but I'm guilty of that last part as well.

There's probably a number of other issues at hand as well, but these are the biggest problems. Resolving even a few of these would help a lot, but at the end of the day, the game just isn't very popular, and I doubt that even with a lot of dedication and better quality streams that we will see the game get much more viewership than it already has.

damn that ended up being more long winded than i wanted
oh, and cirno's stepmania streams don't count, he worked a long time in purely the speedrunning community to build up his stream, and he practically has a cult following that will watch him play anything, the best thing we can hope for out of this is for people to try to be streaming stepmania when he stops streaming it, this happened to me once and about 10-15 people ended up finding my channel after he went offline because they were interested in the game.

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I'd stream if my laptop was decent :(