ITG/DDR Scores
 

I don't quite know why I've never seen a thread for this before, but since no one's making it I will I suppose.

I know not too many people on this site actually play DDR/ITG but for those that do I figured it would be a good idea to have a thread so that we had a place to dump random scores and comment like everyone else, instead of having to make new threads every time. Also since no one even does make new threads about DDR/ITG, maybe it'll get some people to post scores or something.

Anyways, this is the place to post DDR/ITG scores if you don't want to make a new thread about it, blah blah blah, I'll start off here.

Old scores but I didn't have anything to start out with lol. Also sorry for the huge pictures :(




lol horrible PA

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I have some more if anyone wants me to post them



my footwork has gotten a lot smoother since these videos.

Also my name isn't phoenix anymore.


pluto relinquished Expert

NGO expert

End of Century AAA:

Trim expert:

paranoia 290 oni:

paranoia respect Expert:

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I need to post my scores. Will hopefully take some picture tomorrow.

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jesus that NGO is crazy. I think I fail on the crossover stream at the end every time, and you FC'd it O.o

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You guys and your AAAs... Nice job! Good scores otherwise, I especially like that pandi11! A favourite chart of mine <3 Good to see there're some good players on the site ^^ I'll share some of my scores later on. Not had a chance to play a lot in a while, but in the process of fixing that...

*still doesn't have an AAA*

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How in the world can you not have a AAA, you can do like 12's right? That's crazy O.o

And yeah, I really like pandemonium hard too, but I can't do it very often. It's right at the limit of my stamina, I have to do a ton of warming up before I can even attempt it lol (though I did finish AAA before as well, I dunno if that takes more stamina or less).

Anyways got some of my newer scores now that I figured out how to get them off my phone





I have some videos of me somewhere on my computer too, just have to be not lazy and actually go look for them >.<

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For some reason, this is the only score I have on my comp right now. Its my first pass of superluminal. This was like last November? I'm on the left :p

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i know that feel bro
played ddr/itg for years and racked up some ~80 BFs on DDR songs before saying '**** it' and whoring last message for AAA #1 lmao. once you get over that hump it's a lot easier but yeah i was 99'ing 11s and some 12s long before my first ddr AAA =.=

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Closest to a AAA is a black flag on Max300 a few years ago. I haven't really tried really hard for them, but probably could get one of I world something. Being able to 99 13s and 14s on ITG but not having a DDR AAA is a tad annoying though XD

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i have yet to FC it. and yet to pass NGO's oni chart. so much jump stream. nice videos. and scores to both of you (:

Meanwhile, i just went to turn my Ps2 on and its not reading any discs. So i cant take pictures of scores. ;_;

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Whoa geeze, that takes some ridiculous stamina to pass, and then you have to make it through those 24th trills later on that would probably just kill you on there own, great pass. Who were you playing with exactly that got a 90 on that?
Thanks :) That really sucks though, would've liked to have seen your scores, too bad the ps3 isn't backwards compatible :(

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Just found an arcade with a machine about a half hour away. I'll figure something out :P

I found one picture on my computer, its pretty bad though. Its a 82p AAA on Morning Glory -_-

Damn this sucks, need pictures. I had a AA FC on Fascination eternal love mix, Paranoia Hades Expert, and Trip Machine Phoenix Expert

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I get like 80-83% on NGO oni.
That chart is the definition of garbage.

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Have you ever AA'd Paranoia Hades Oni?

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I havent passed Hades on Oni lol.
That, pluto relinquished on challenge, dead end groove special, eternal love mix challenge are the ones I havent passed yet (I've gotten to the last 10 seconds of eternal love though)

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yea,,,, 400 BPM 4th note jumpglut, not my thing. I can usually full combo up to the end of the middle section.

I passed Hades oni once, with like.....shit accuracy. 74, i think

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That's Konami step artists for you! Inflate difficulty through shitty charting and gimmicks. To hell with learning from good step artists, we'll just make ****ing awful and awkward charts and call them hard. Dead End Groove Radar lulz.

Paranoia Hades Oni has a hilarious middle XD AA Healing D Vision Oni for a challenge. Dem crossovers.

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Post some of your newer and better ones if you think that your technique is better now :) Would like to see!



Doubleposting I know... updating with a few of my favourite achievements though. First off, Deltamax! Everyone else seems to die at 66%, just gotta move faster! :D


Brainfog. Used this chart to learn how to doublestep! Did eventually get a 93 on it, but lost access to my machine before really trying to improve it...


Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star! Love the song, really wish that I could do the FFR chart XD




Haven't uploaded most of my other videos, or didn't get some achievements on video. 97% on Midnight (15 apparently, I'd call it a 14), various Dragonforce passes with As or higher... Oh, and the screenshot with the high stepcount below is my 30 minute chart. 30 minutes of unbroken 140bpm stream!

I've not had access to a machine for a year or so. Am working on getting a local DDR machine upgraded to and ITG2, am hoping to have that done in the next few weeks so I can start playing again <3

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My first FC of this, which was actually back in the fall, but it's all I have right now xP When I finally get around to making a video on ITG I'll post it here.

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Holy, whaaaaaaaa? O.O You're like vibrating with your feet or something at the end there, I couldn't even do that with my hands lmao. What exactly was the camera man doing btw O.o

Also I really like that exciting hyper highspeed star, it looks like a really fun chart, too bad I don't have access to ITG anymore.

Anyways, ridiculously amazing scores. I hope you can get that local ddr machine changed out so you can get us some new scores, would love to see where you're at now :D
Wow nice FC! I don't have that one, I always get screwed up on the jacks right at the end. I'm suprised you didn't get something like maxx unlimited or legend of max instead lol.

I'm gonna get some scores tomorrow I think, maybe thursday. Gotta find time to hit up my local DDR machine in my schedule, but I'm trying to go at least once a week so it should be sometime this week

Edit: @Wildfireskunk it's a fairly tight window actually, probably something like j5 on stepmania, or at least that's what my machine is like.

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What's the marvellous window like on DDR? That seems like some pretty damn good MA considering your great count XD

EDIT - Wow, that makes that score both impressive, and a little odd! Hehe.

Thanks a lot, I hope to get access again so I can get back to my former skill, AND BEYOND! :o

And yeah, you basically have to vibrate at the end of deltamax... BPM increases by 1 for every measure of the song, starting at 100 and ending at 573. 286bpm 16ths = haaaaaard, although I'm sure Mad Matt could probably FC it on a good run O_o

And the cameraman is a badass XD French guy called Wister, a beast player who can do well on 16s these days! He's excitable :D


And a tip for Max300, those jacks at the end are really tough for ages, especially when you're at the level of doing 10s and 11s. You can 'cheat' them by using 2 feet on each arrow though, and it makes it a ton easier as long as you work out what foot you have to start on for the UD ones. It's the only way I was able to BF it ^^

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For Wildfire.
This is me from 2 weeks ago.
Bad score but I was reeeally tired at this point.

Fascination Maxx Oni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTa-C...1&feature=plcp

This one is for the lulz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KwM3...fXE_QA&lf=plcp

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The guy on the right is Aoreo, I think he's 6th-ish on groovestats for in the groove 1+2. He's damn good. That score wasn't even one of his best lol

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Damn alloyus, for FC'ing Max 300 for the first time, 899610 is pretty good O; i havent played that song in forever

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That Fascination Maxx Oni pass is amazing, I've never really had the stamina to get through that chart. I always end up getting through the slow gallop part and seeing the next part and quitting cause I'm too tired lol.
I don't remember too well, but doesn't that chart have some ridiculous crossovers too in the 400 bpm streams?

Considering that your passes before were paranoia survivor max expert and trim you've gotten a whole lot better.

Also how did you see out of the mask? Or did you just memorize it?
Wow, and you play with these people all the time? That's awesome. You people need to tell me where you are or something cause you all seem to know amazing players and I don't know any lol

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I know like no pro players, probly cuz i live in the middle of nowhere (Montgomeryville, PA.)

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With Maxx oni, it's a mind trick right after the gallops when it freezes. There's actually no first arrow to hit when the music starts back up, the arrows start on the second note of it.
Theres some crossovers yeah, but mainly only in 5 note bursts over and over.

My friend brought that mask from his friends house. It had holes in the eyes and flashing LED lights in the side, and an IPOD speaker in the ears for me to play loud techno through outside to annoy and dance around people.

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Hurrah, players I know of! *frequenter on the AIJ boards* He's made cool simfiles too :D



Nice going on FAXXO Dragonmega! How many 10s on DDR have you A'd and AA'd (if any?) so far? And do you play doubles at all? I wish I had access to a machine with FAXX available to play, only local is a SuperNOVA though so I only get it for extra stage...



I'm sure Cali has a lot of really good players from what I've seen on the AIJ forums... http://aij.ddruk.com/boards/ - Go sign up there, you may well be able to find some local players there! Playing with good people really helps you improve faster :D

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A few.
AA super max 300, A on trim and a lot of other 10's.

Im pretty good at doubles. I can pass healing vision angelic mix no bar and max 300 with bar

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That chart is SO MUCH FUN. Lemme think... Can't Stop Falling In Love Speed Mix is a really good doubles chart, Afronova Primeval is fun for over the pad movement, and if any of the mixes you can play has Rhythm and Police on it.... <3~

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My favorite doubles chart is janajana by far :>
So many crossovers and you can actually dance/style it

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I don't think we have that on any of our mixes here... unless it's on Supernova and I've never noticed it? :o I'll check next time I'm at the arcade!

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That sucks, but I guess that's the purpose of a board like this, so you at least have some way to see how your scores stack up.

Edit: according to the site wildfire gave me, apparently there's a tournament in Monaca, PA, in may, and then another one in Harrisburg, PA, in June. So maybe there is things going on there?


Hey thanks for the link, I'll register for that now. Yeah honestly I just haven't really looked around for anyone, mostly because I didn't really know where to start looking, so this is helpful. I kinda figured there would be at least some good players in cali.

My favorite is actually holic doubles, mostly cause I can do it lmao. I think I actually have a picture of a AAA on that one doubles, should look for it.
I like flowers and no.13 as well, and as for janajana I think its fun on doubles and singles :D. Also you should have janajana on supernova wildfire, it came out on 3rd mix I think, or even before then.

Oh I didn't actually know that, this is pretty helpful thanks.

Double Edit: I found it, apparently it was a bf though lol

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First off, nice job on a doubles AAA :o That's really impressive! And you just reminded me that yeah, No.13 is a brilliant chart too! I love ones that move around the pad a lot. A (Oni) is another brilliant one for that! I'll check out my SN for jana then :)


And np, have a look around the tournament section, and then look in the big ITG and DDR achievements threads. Peoples locations are usually listed under their username so you should be able to find people like that. I'm sure I've seen a lot of good Cali ITG players!

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I play with them occasionally.There are a lot of good players in the chicago-land area. Its a shame that I can't play that much anymore because I moved to Iowa for school :(

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Wooo
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hp?songid=9232

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DDR.... Pole Riding.... what? (didnt watch everyone's vids, just a few) Poles are for jumping over in freestyle >.> Nupe, I cant prove anything right now. The arcade around here is communist and charges for everything (parking, to get in the arcade, to play in the arcade.) Bah! Humbug! on a serious note, the reason why i have no scores to show for recent activity is because of a knee injury. might try and show ya some scores w/o poles ^.~ dont get me wrong, pole or not, you guys are pretty good. Better than me anyways >.>'

*-=Seersofall=-*

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Bar =/= cheating
Although I can AA a lot of stuff no bar too.
I have a vid of me playing pluto relinquished no bar for a part of it.

Ill upload my 93% on super max in a sec

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>.> 93 on super max? :o was it heavy or oni?

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Oni.
It's a strong song of mine. I can FC it if I get a lucky run. The crossovers in the ending streams get me. I can nail the jump section every time though :'3

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I almost FC'd Max 300 no bar, never want to do it again lol.

And 93% on super max, really???? I just recently played that and I got like 85 greats, way to completely destroy me :(

Also I actually personally think heavy is harder, or at least more awkward then the oni chart

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I've FC'd the jump section one time, one time only. That was on my best run, an 86 if i remember right. Times like these, i wish PS3 was backwards compatible for PS2 games.

P.s. Trip machine Pheonix Oni's outro always kills me. its just crossover after crossover like 16 times.

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Heavy is only harder in the section where the oni chart has the stream of freeze arrows. The heavy chart is gay.

Also sorry just re-watched and it's only a 92.2% 3':

It's uploaded just waiting for it to show up.

Trip machine phoenix is garbage.
NGO Challenge is garbage.
Black rose is off sync garbage
Healing D Vision challenge is a ****ing joke.

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Black rose? I dunno that song. I know Unreal (by Black Rose Garden). In any case, LOL Off sync DDR songs, the fuc. And yea I've never played Healing D Vision but i know the BPM shifts are gay. And don't even get me started on Chaos.

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Chaos is easy once you learn it o_o
Also yeah meant Unreal. Whatever.

Heres the last 10 seconds of healing D vision on challenge... ....


watch from 1:35 ._.

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O DEAR GAWD. Pretty much all of the file past the part where the BPM doubles is fail bait..At 360 bpm, broken 8th note stream into 8 measures of nothing but trills and crossovers...Just, wtf. into Plus, I swear i saw 24ths in the part between 120 and 180 combo..The hell konami.

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Oh I never posted this.
This was my first AAA (Not PFC)

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I'd love to actively contribute to this thread, but I don't play ITG all that much due to a lack of transportation (and being on a second floor apartment). I hope to at least have a car soon, though. So, here's some older videos.

Gravity Blast - 99.02:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfhL4ezNSNo

Love Mera Hit Hit (House Mix) - 9 ex:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfhL4ezNSNo

------ scores after this line are before I moved to the East Coast ------

Last Remote - 86.89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTAGu-eH7Vo

Body Breakdown - 80.88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krkO60TqBaE

What Do You Really Want - 99.31 (19 ex)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ETrT87s8Oc

-----

I still want to get my first 16 - I failed Superluminal on the third to last step on a Blueshark. =/

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I want to play body breakdown :v

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This is end of the century right? I think you did post that right after my post in the op actually, still a great AAA though. It's a little too stamina draining for me to keep my PA up.

And don't worry halogen, like the only person actively contributing right now is dragonmega. I'm trying to get my scores back to a respectable level after a horrible skill drop and cammy is trying to get a ps2 or something so we're pretty much all posting old scores right now.

That gravity blast is amazing by the way, too bad about the miss, but when that happens to me I just assume I could of AAA'd and stop playing lol. Looks like a really fun chart too.

Edit: and Alloyus is contributing too, I forgot haha >.<

Edit 2: and wildfire, I really need to keep track of things lol.

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Whoops :V
Anyways here's the Super max

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I need to start playing more so i can record scores on machines and blah blah blah. But i need to think of a name for myself.
Sick Super Max score, dragon :P

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oh hey hold on my recent score is actually really close to that, I thought you meant 93% as in ITG 93% not 922,000.

Here it is


I'm gonna beat you now, let's go o.o

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922 > 904
:o

Hehe I dont have school tomorrow so Ill whore this song just for you.

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More scores from last week

Alejandro (Skrillex Remix) amazing accuracy for me



First pass of DarkChrysalis' Sweety Man :3 (I'm not that good at extended stream, so this was a big milestone for me (a few 16th bursts of a measure or something at 170 BPM, came more naturally to me this visit for some unknown reason but felt awesome even though percent isn't that great)

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I think my first AAA was on 321Stars on Extreme xD Then i got a 999.1 on Morning Glory, this is the only picture data i have to date. Next time i go to an arcade (half hour away, i just found :D) ill take some pictures after some playing. now, see.(see page stretch) My MA sucks.

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Wait is that a ddr supernova 2 with the card system unlocked? How in the world did you find that? (or is it like a different ddr, to be honest I just assumed it had the card system unlocked because of the points thing on the bottom)

Also 321 stars is a great first AAA, I always mess it up on the 32nds. I dunno about morning glory though I forget what that chart looks like

Well I don't know about the first one but 170 bpm 16th streams is crazy, AAA is only like 150 or so and I can barely handle it :( What difficulty is that one?

Edit: oh wait it's the home version, haha I get it now. I stopped getting the home versions after supernova so I wouldn't recognize that lol

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Sweety Man is a 12, you can get it here :)

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=121844

A bunch of awesome files I'd totally recommend it

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@FrozenAngel, its on DDR Supernova 2 Home version, Here's a playthrough video i found:


Hardest part is 0:50 - 0:58, especially the down hold that last until after you crossover into an 8th note left jack.

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Only noteworthy scores I've recently achieved on DDR Super Nova.

7 cbs on A (heavy) flunked the slowdown but combo'd the rest.

MS of all 7's on murmur twins standard. Wish I capped that ha

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p.s. If anyone can beat my 969 on Konoko No Nanatsu No Oiwaini, ill love you 4ever.

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I don't even think I've hit 900 on konoko XD In due time ;)

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ya know.... shit


Also Zim's kecak

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I'll go down the arcade on Monday and give that a shot >:3

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Zim's Kecak is really fun, haha. Pretty sure I 99'd it on the Break machine, although I'm not sure how high the 99 is.

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12 excellents on outlaw is shit? I can't even AA it, or probably A it lol.

I've only really played Konoko when I was trying to pass the boss rush it's in, and it was a ridiculous challenge to so much as FC it in there. But whatever, Challenge accepted! I've totally got this >.> <.<

That's really good actually. I remember A was where I did a good deal of my stream practice, and was incredibly hard to pass. The fact that you only got 7 cb's and not a crap ton means you were able to jump right back into the stream, and that's really not easy on a song with constant semi awkward stream.

Get us some pictures too, I wanna see your PA XD

P.S: What does MS mean lmao

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MS would be Max Score I think? So overall score of 7,777,777 (now get dat limit break!).

12 Excellents on outlaw being 'shit' is down to the player. If that was being posted in the AiJ scores thread then yeah, compared to everyone else there you could get away with that. Here though, it's far from that! But I'm guessing he knows he can do better and wasn't happy with it. I'm like that with a couple of my scores... *glares at Denjin K Megamix*

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Bam!


Also...

Argh! So close >.< I did really well on the trills but then I lost my stamina and got like 10 goods on the part right after. I'm going to beat you cammy just you wait o.o

Also a couple of other scores I got today



All four of these were on the slowdown part where it does a 3 down arrow jack and then speeds up immediately. I can't figure out the timing of that for the life of me



I'm gonna AAA this someday (Not PFC, I could but I'd have to get really lucky)

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Sorry for the double post but...

SPON CON!!!


20,000 credits to the first three people that either AAA (PFC, not 990,000) any song on DDR or 4 star any song on ITG. Any difficulty is fine.

The gameplay has to be after this post, there's not really a way to time date the pictures as far as I know so I'm just going to hope everyone is honorable about this.

P.S: I do know that 4 starring a song is much harder than AAA'ing a song on DDR but the people that have access to ITG seem to be ridiculously good (or at least the people I've seen) and I don't want to make this too easy for them. If it's too much of a difference I can change it though

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o.o 933 on super max oni is sick. And damn that konoko, i usually dump most my goods on the trills. (166 bpm 16ths, feels bad man)

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Inb4 someone makes a 1 arrow chart to load onto ITG via USB or hacking, and quads that XD

Imma head down to my local arcade on monday and play some SuperNova, see if I can bust out a AAA. If I can even still play well!

Also, that's a nice SMMMO score! How hard do you find it to keep your combo? I'd challenge you to FC it, or get 9,500,000 if you think you're upto it! :)

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Actually I think I could FC, before I'd always drop it on the crossover in the end stream but this time I nailed it so it's very possible. Just have to work up my stamina for it. So okay, challenge accepted! XD

Edit: lol yeah I suppose people could do that, I'd probably have to accept that since I didn't say anything sadly. I figure people will try a bit harder than that though.

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I didn't mean the score was shit lol i meant i was posting shit lol. Whoops

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You could just say that's not allowed :p

And yeah, I know the crossovers you mean. They always used to do me in a treat as well! Really need to force those ones hard, like the ones in PMSO.

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Scores from today:
All fine, why not was good for me. Pluto relingay was a decent run.

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That's amazing PA on AM-3P and Why not, and especially why not. Both are kinda polyrhythmic songs and getting PA like that is really hard, especially with why not being stamina draining too.

I dunno about the PA on Pluto relinquish, it's amazing that you passed it but I've never passed it before so I wouldn't know what good PA on it would look like.

Also you need to sup my score on SMMM now :P

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Will do in the next few days ;P Im busy this weekend

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That AM-3P .. o.o Beast my best of 59p / 7g

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LEGIT EUROMIX 1 AAA TIME GUYS, BADASS COMING THROUGH

So like, I went to my arcade today. The Euromix 1 has sterling pads, which it should do because I modded the crap out of them the other week (). The SuperNova machine next to it was, alas, neglected. It's not destined to be any more than a SuperNova (which is a depressing existence...), so they didn't bother hammering out the pad screws to give me access to the pads.

SO FIRST I PLAYED SOME SUPERNOVA AND THOUGHT I'D TRY AND AAA STUFF.

Then I realised I couldn't combo anything because the Left and Up arrows were ****ing useless. Then I died playing Konoko because the left just went HERP DERP MISS MISS MISS during the run. But I put on some stamp mode and still seem to have fairly okay PA!



So then I thought I'd play EuroMix 1. What with it's... maybe 25 songs? FIVE AAA's ATTAINED. And you can't argue them, it says AAA right there on the results. Oh, and I only got 1 pic and one video as you get 8 seconds on the results screen. My other ones were Captain Jack, Paranoia Rebirth, and Dam Dariram.

BEHOLD, AAA


And uhh, some other random pictures. Another LEGIT AAA, and some crappy non-FCs thanks to the pads. I was AAAing Max300 till the break too D:

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wtf is that Max 300... >.> amazing, that break always kills my FC cuz i always forget how long it is/