Offensive Songs Thread
 

I 100% know the community participates in being kind to everyone.
I want to request that we keep that standard and positivity amongst everyone, especially in music.
I know we all want to and we all do our very best to one another, and i know we dont feel these ways about eachother when songs chosen into the engine are picked, which is why im even O-K making this initiative.
(I also dont wanna remove songs to call out any step artists, or to take away scores from players, and i know itll need some coding.)

I personally have no physical affiliation to this song I would like to report on However,
I just Fc'd this atrocious futuristic sex robotz song on the fly (playing something random for an random FC-get) and this song's lyrics are like Literally SO degrading to the v4ginal health of women.
I just find this is mysoginistic and derogatory bc Dishwater is a song that blatantly attacks a womens body-odor for the sake of wanting to f1st or give or4l to a woman - for his sexual ego making this which is extremely aggressive, (and kind of degrading to men as well) but women shouldnt feel this way playing this game.
On a further scale, I know there are women who do suffer from things like that as I am related to loved ones where there are medical conditions that ones physical health and hygene are out of many peoples control,
I dont think we should include songs that allow people to think of women in this manner and my heart goes out for the women listening to this song ON and OFF of FFR who have felt offended by it.

I'm an adult, i can take a joke like everyone else, but i know its just a song and it was probably funny at the time, blahblahblah, but its not aging very well and i think its very sad this song is even in the engine. If you dont wanna take it out thats fine, but I've made my claim.

Obviously I would account this thread to be warmly extended to others who have similar feelings and ideologies to other songs that offend them respectfully in reciprocation and equality.

Thoughts are appreciated,

-Always Loving, Zgf1

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I felt almost gross playing through "Hate" Castle (no longer in-game coincidentally) like wtf was that lol

Not sure about completely removing some songs from the game, maybe a trigger warning could be added on a case-by-case basis but idk I'm not the best voice on this because I don't get triggered by things

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i was told other songs have been taken out in the past, i already knew the community has taken action previously.
trigger warnings in the menus would be such a good idea! :>

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Iterating what Dynamer said, case-by-case content advisory appearing in the simfile's info or even a modal popup (perhaps too intrusive) for anything with objectionable/mature content may be a plus

regular Slashmaid is one that sticks out...

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Didn't old FFR have a parental advisory warning on a lot of songs like this? Like, I distinctly remember Seattle's Finest and the FSR songs had them in the title back in the avmiss era and such.

Maybe we bring that sort of thing back? Idk

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I'd be all for taking action on the Futuristic Sex Robotz songs, the lyrics are truly awful. I wouldn't object to removing them to be honest, but a content warning would also be fine.

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Hello there,

I was brought to this thread by a text while in class.

Why not just make a different song category for it.

I think removing the songs is really a shitty thing to do but I understand the other side of the fence here.

Anyways with that thought I shall vanish again.

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I remember the first time I played Dishwater I was like whoa n***** damn how did this make it into FFR xD but yea adding a content warning might be the easiest fix but you could also just mute the song instead of completely removing the file that way people could still enjoy playing the patterns and keep the stats they earned. Tbh half the songs on here I play without the sound bc they're either not synced properly or the music/lyrics are just too painful to listen to.

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I do argue for keeping songs in the game, if nothing than as a monument to bad taste, but content warnings are absolutely a thing that should be in the game alongside them. We used to have them on some songs, in fact - no idea when they were removed. Bring 'em back.

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is it possible to make censored versions of the chart audio and then have a toggle-able option to use either censored audio or normal audio?

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My suggestion would be making another genre specifically for songs that would merit at least a parental advisory. This genre can only be accessed by accounts with the age of let's say 16. therefore making these songs unavailable to players without an FFR account.

It kinda cringes me that a 13 year old can create an account legally and they pick one song and it talks about how they're doing dirty stuff. If my nephew ever gets into this game lord forbid he plays Hey, Ladies. LOL

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slap this on ffr and ur good

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holy fuck these lyrics are horrible

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I actually don't, so this is false. Fuck stupid people, fuck irrelevant people, and fuck certain people on this website.

Also, if it's got "offensive language" such a the N bomb or what have you, I have no complaint with adding a tag for it - but removal is a hard (pun intended) no.

But if you listened to Dishwasher and thought it was misogynistic, you missed the joke. When people complain about the shit that doesn't matter, it makes it really hard to see the actual cases and take them seriously.

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there's no debate to be had actually, music industry slaps on the parental advisory sticker and it's good to go

unless folks here want to enter a neverending discussion about where to draw the line

the real question is where does the parental advisory warning go on the website or game

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hey the song name is Dishwater not dishwasher

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... This sums up my post a lot better to be honest. Glad you made it.

hey buddy

idfc

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A toggle to show the songs that are a little on the offensive side, like legacy that is toggled off at first might be a good way to do it. Idk where to decide which songs should be on that list though like where to draw the line.

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exclusive genre, opt-in, opt-out, warning etc are all decent ideas but i wouldn't go down the removal route

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Was removed because of permissions, not content.

Our site is 13+ which does mean vulgar language and such is technically acceptable (think of pg13 rated movies). I'm not anti labelling explicit content but I'd ask if anyone has a list because I don't have the time currently to go through all 3000+ songs and most do not contain explicit lyrics. Whether they can code something in for them to be toggled is something out of my scope, but I can add an explicit tag at the very least for the time being.

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If you're butthurt over song lyrics, you're taking life too seriously.

Oh, and the fact that you're actually trying to censor words like ORAL and VAGINAL... Kinda cringe ngl

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v4ginal = Vaginal; f1st = Fist; or4l = Oral.

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Content warnings are definitely ideal here I think, through an opt-in genre similar to how people need to enable the Legacy genre to play them. A notification telling players about what themes to expect before checking the box for the explicit genre should suffice. Removal is excessive and I think it's overall better to display them, as hi19 said, as a monument to tasteless artwork. Editing audio is definitely not allowed given FFR's permissions.

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hypocrisy: the thread

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the fact that people take this seriously and not as a joke/parody song makes me worried for the future of our people

I get it can be jarring though if you're not expecting it so I agree with a warning for explicit content or something like that

There are way worse songs in FFR content wise that use much "nicer" language

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...sault-1209677/

"Mindless Self Indulgence Singer Jimmy Urine Sued for Sexual Assault of Minor, accused of two-year sexual relationship with a 15-year-old, who accuses him of grooming, molesting and sexually assaulting her repeatedly"

This man has a song in FFR

like if we are gonna go there let's actually go there

also psychozerosk8r stepped that song T_T miss that dude

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not a woman who doesn't have a history of behavior that contradicts feminism having a legitimate criticism of ffr's song repertoire :( :( :(

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Which history is that?

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I'mma need to dip my wings in this thread because we gonna get spicy sooner or later.

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how's it hangin devonin

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Funnygurl

EDIT: I can't believe that actually worked lmfao. I never use the twg tags outside of the TWG forums, so I just assumed it wouldn't work

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I think it's perfectly fine if you all want to add an {explicit} tag or w/e to songs that come across as brash, but it is what it is. Music. Can either not play it, or if you're a completionist, just AAA it with the song muted (if it sincerely bothers you that much).

They shouldn't be removed from the engine. Pushing any sort of agenda like that leads to songs in the future getting removed for one reason or another because a few people can't handle slang in their 2 out of 3000 songs available to them.

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Some kind of tag or pop-up, then those who wish to stay away can stay away, or decide to mute if they are farming stats or rank

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who listens to WAP here

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Oh nooooo, not a song about wet pussy! That could offend a fucking snowflake who thinks Cardi B is the greatest lyrical talent in the music industry!

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The Futuristic Sex Robots songs were some of the worst songs I have played in the game and were definitely muted after I failed the AAA the first time around, so I would love to never see them again. Jokes aside, I don't see how a content filter like the Legacy filter would be very controversial here. Just like with Legacy files, these explicit songs all tend to be lower difficulties, and they don't really represent the rest of the game very well. Just as I could see a new player playing a Legacy file and saying "wow this game sucks", I could see them playing something like FSR and thinking "These songs are disgusting and awful." Aside from new players, I also would have appreciated it if I was somewhat prepared for what I was about to listen to the first time I played those FSR files. This isn't really the first time we have done something like this either, just a year ago or so we censored the song "Gonna R*pe Kylie." Similar to this, I would also like to be able to filter out songs that include harsh tones that physically hurt to listen to, like the one in the end of "Louder!!!" It would just be nice to play new songs or old songs without needing to get shocked by the content of the song, since most songs don't include harsh tones or uncomfortable lyrics.

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I’mma best real here, a filter here does nothing that muting can’t and if a tag is added you have no excuse to be bothered after

So i’m against making them like legacy files

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Dishwater is a classic and a total banger, though i definitely agree with Wiosna cuz it's understandable that some people wouldn't like it lol

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I already make notes for songs like that since I legitimately cannot listen to harsh noises like that without bad things happening. Sometimes I ask others to check them if I'm not sure it's safe for me but a definitive tag of like "audio warning" or "headphone warning" would be nice. The issue for me is I think that'd be super subjective unless it's like ultra blatant, in the case of stuff like Cobra Commander or <insert Extratone song here>. Because the stuff that I can't handle may not be the same as stuff that others can handle and vice versa, just leading to endless arguments about that kinda thing. Which, btw, also applies to like any other warning/tag you could put on the other songs.

I remember Kayla mentioning a few weeks ago that either the artist data is going to be moved into the song list itself, or that she would like for it to be; much like how skill token descriptions are now. If that's going to be a thing, maybe the warnings could also be held there, depending on how much space that'd take up. Maybe an indicator of whether or not a song has a video/background, too, assuming people actually play without "backgrounds off".

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basically 100% this, lest this topic becomes another "Rap is music, technically" thread.

We separated legacy files from FFR files mainly for blue note syndrome & quality. There's still a couple of legacy files (like Revo Etude/fotbb) that didn't get the legacy cut because of their difficulty. The problem is inherently in how the files are stepped, not the music itself.

This issue can be fixed with just some simple tagging, there's no reason to hide these from public view. If people click past the warning then that's on them.

Subaru also brings up another good point. Use the 'Song Options' page to highlight songs that aren't for you via Song Notes. Make use of the right click menu if you have no way of making heads from tails of the stuff.

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Started adding [Explicit] to some songs but I do not remember all so feel free to drop song titles for me to add it to.

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how has Hey, Ladies only been mentioned once in this thread in passing lol

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Yo!

i agree, ive learned that removal would be too much for too many songs since lots are explicit. i also know, being a musician, people are entitled to musical integrity - tasteless or not.. however this song is beyond tasteless, its disgusting. And to those believing I don't get the "joke" for the Dishwater song, I do and its not funny, its gross and mean.

I'm just a casual player in terms of staff, and i think it would be a great conversation to bring up to the Staff if Artist History is a trigger to some.

lmfao. if that song gets in ffr, then i guess everyone will have to "get the joke."

Whatever negativity you tried emitting here overall is not cute and so random. lmao.
It seems that you have been totally mistaken about me in that regard.
Im fine with that because I accomplished something.

I accomplished something: which was sparking participation so we could collectively have this conversation to ignite something in that direction. no harm done.

Seeing that Psychoangel posted prior had already helps give a realistic view of what she and the others can handle. But I came back to read about her progress!?! Thank you!!!

Super big thank you to people participating positively here, I was just hoping for a space on FFR providing a little support regarding this topic in an online public situation. If such a space wasnt be created before, at least I hope I paved a path for some new changes!

xoxo ZGF1 oxox

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get fucked up!

some say the X
gets you fucked up

get get get get fucked
get fucked up
take drugs smoke crack rock
get fucked up

husikam crack dojo

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I retract my previous comments to a “fuck that” due to the quoted post

Lol

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Do it. :>

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Let me be blunt:

What you've been sobbing and complaining about, doesn't really achieve anything in the long run. All you've done is cry about song lyrics, of which the joke went over your head. You've just given more work for the admins, and people who work on the engine to do.

As many people have said here, once you put a parental advisory sticker on something, it's fair fucking game and fuck your feelings if you get offended.

Conglaturations on your "victory"

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xel has slayed me

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grow up kiddos, cringe behaviour tbh

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Agreeing with Dynamo here. This thread was never needed or wanted.

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i don't like her and don't think she should be tolerated so yes unfortunately i'll continue to bully her whenever i see her pop into the forums

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I'd already planned on re-adding the [explicit] tag tbh when the n word popped up in a recent tournament pick it was mentioned again. It's probably good that we're at least giving a heads up before someone plays a song.

With that said I'm going to lock this down now before it starts going too off track. If anyone wants to help me track down explicit songs just shoot me a DM.