Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2
Simfile Submissions for FFR
You can find the old thread here. TABLE OF CONTENTS >>> EMAILS - shows the email to use for your file submission. >>> CURRENT BATCHES - shows which batch recently closed, and which batch is currently open. >>> SUBMISSION RULES - shows what to include in your file submission. >>> RESUBMISSIONS - explains how resubmitting a file works. Resubmitted files don't count towards your SAP cap. >>> SUBMISSION CAP AND SIMFILE ARTIST POINTS (SAP) - explains SAP system for maximum number of file submissions in a batch period. >>> GENERAL SIMFILE MAKING GUIDES - some tutorials for creating a stepfile. >>> JUDGMENT SYSTEM - shows what ratings are used in judging. >>> THE QUEUE LIST - shows the files currently accepted in the queue. >>> CONDITIONAL QUEUE - shows files that will only be accepted into the queue with certain fixes. >>> EMAILS All submissions need to be sent as an attachment, either .zip or .rar files. Do NOT send submissions via an external link to a file-hosting site. These are the three submission e-mails and what you should be sending to each one: regularffrsubmissions@gmail.com - Submissions to the regular FFR batch. - Fixes for a file in any regular FFR batch that is not under judgment. - Resubmissions from a regular FFR batch. ffrsubmissions@gmail.com - Fixes for a file that has been accepted into the queue. Do not send regular submissions to this e-mail. - Fixes for a file in the conditional queue. - Rating appeals for files currently in conditional queue or rejected with at least a 6 rating or resubmission privileges. specialsubmissions@gmail.com - Submissions to a special batch, which runs concurrently but separately from the regular batch. >>> CURRENT BATCHES The Batch Search Engine is used to track submissions. Look there for what's currently in a batch. Also note the policy from the New Judgment System below related to sending fixes for a closed batch period. Regular batch periods span 2 months, starting on the first day of the first month to the last day of the second month. Quote:
First make sure that FFR has permission to use the song. Check the permission thread before you step/submit. File submissions are to be attached in an email in .zip or .rar format. The folder name must include the song name and the stepartist name in the following format: <songname> (<username>) Example: Magical 8bit Tour (jimerax) We will notify you if your submission was sent in the wrong format. At a minimum, your .zip or .rar file must contain the following: - A folder in the format listed above. This folder must contain the two files specified in the next list item below: - It must have one .sm file with one difficulty. If your .sm file has multiple difficulties, your submission will receive a rating of 0/10. - It must have one .mp3 file with at least a bit rate of 128kbps, stereo. If the sound quality is poor we may request a better mp3. More specifically, these also must be taken into consideration: - The song artist must be created in the .sm file. If we see "Unknown Artist", we may request you to give us the song artist so we can also check for valid permission. - If you only use a part of the mp3 for stepping, cut unstepped parts of the mp3. This will reduce the size of the level. For instance, don't use the full 4 minute mp3 of a song if you only step the first 2 minutes. - Do not include graphics or cdtitles in the submission. Along with that, do not put your username in the .sm file. - Again, multiple difficulties are NOT allowed. If you want to submit multiple difficulties for one song, submit them as separate files. - Holds, Mines, Rolls, and Attacks are NOT allowed. If any of these are found in your submission it will receive a rating of 0/10. - Stops are not allowed. You can use any (4th to 192nd) notes and BPM changes, but stops make DDReam unusable. - The difficulty you submit should be one of Light, Standard, Heavy, or Challenge. Don't use Beginner or Edit. - If at least half the judges in a set mention audio issues for a file submission, that file will automatically be put into conditional queue even if it's accepted. In addition, the GM Team has the right to lower the volume if it is deemed necessary. >>> RESUBMISSIONS This system is only available for the regular batches. A file rejected with 6.25 to 6.5 rating will get resubmission privileges. See the New Judgment System Policy on this below: Quote:
Just put [Resubmission] at the top of the name of zip/rar file and folder, then submit. e.g. [Resubmission] Magical 8bit Tour (jimerax).zip. Only these files can be counted as resubmissions (other files are counted as normal submissions). If you want to send a fix on a queued chart, resend the revised file in a .zip or .rar to the submission e-mail. Do NOT only send a .sm/.dwi file. Include the audio file along with all other necessary components. Postponing Files: See the New Judgment System Policy on postponing files below. Quote:
>>> SUBMISSION CAP AND SIMFILE ARTIST POINTS (SAP) Having a file (or more) in the game or queue -> +10 File with 9.75 - 10 rating -> +5 File with 9.25 - 9.5 rating -> +4 File with 8.5 - 9 rating -> +3 File with 7.5 - 8.25 rating -> +2 File with 6.75 - 7.25 rating -> +1 * Collaboration files won't add points for you, but when you submit a collaboration file it's counted as 0.5 submission for each stepper. * A conditionally queued file will not receive SAP until fixes are sent in and it is fully accepted. Along with gaining SAP, there are also penalties. Submitting more files than the cap and not informing us which file to remove after we ask -> penalty -2 Submitting more files than the cap intentionally with alt account -> penalty -5 Apparently stealing steps from other simfiles -> penalty -10 The spreadsheet below shows SAP for each stepartist. SEE THIS SPREADSHEET FOR YOUR CURRENT SAP AND SUBMISSION CAP. - If your name is not on the spreadsheet and you are a Simfile Author, your cap is automatically 3. If you are not a Simfile Author, your cap is 2. (period 1) Jan-Feb, (2) Mar-Apr, (3) May-Jun, (4) Jul-Aug, (5) Sept-Oct, (6) Nov-Dec) Maximum number of files you can submit in a period: Negative points - 1 file 0-9 SAP - 2 files 10-16 SAP - 3 files 17-39 SAP - 4 files 40 SAP or more - 5 files - If you submit more files than your submission cap, we'll notify you about it. If you don't respond, we'll randomly determine files and your SAP may be reduced by a bit). >>> GENERAL SIMFILE MAKING GUIDES Patashu's Stepping Guide for 2011 How do I make a stepchart (for FFR)? How to make simfiles (for real guys edition) A real guide on how to make a good simfile stargroup's Rhythm Simulation Guide - 4k/6k Notecharting >>> JUDGMENT SYSTEM Remember we will Auto-Reject files that have multiple charts/freezes/mines/rolls without even playing it. [Main Ratings] [Supreme, 10/10] Reserved for real masterpieces or flawless files, rare rating. As good as or even better the best in-game files. [Excellent/Great, 9.5/10 to 8/10] File is strongly accepted by the judge, maybe with minor suggestions. [Good/Acceptable, 7.5/10 or 7/10] File is either weakly accepted or is good enough for FFR but could use some improvement before going in-game. [Mediocre/Almost, 6.5/10 to 5/10] The file is decent overall but needs some important tweaks in certain areas or has many small technical errors. Not accepted without changes. The 6.5 rating, being just under acceptable, is the only rating that says a file should get resubmission privileges. [Sub-par/Bad, 4.5/10 to 3/10] The file has potential, but needs significant reworking in order to be good enough for FFR. Not close to acceptance. [Awful, 2.5/10 to 1/10] The lowest rating that you will likely achieve. The file is basically pretty bad and needs to be completely redone, or the file was rejected for the following: -A significantly incorrect BPM was used -A section of it was way, way, way too hard, like a wall of 64th quads or something similarly ridiculous If any of the above are noticed, the judge has the right to immediately quit out and give the file a [-] rating, regardless of the quality of the rest of the file. [Unutterable, 0/10] Extremely bad file, or files just for kidding judges. Rare rating, and completely waste of time for judges. You will get some penalties if your file gets this rating from 2 or more judges. A freeze or mine in the file is an automatic 0. [PASS] The judge feels unable to properly judge the file, often due to bias or playing ability. [Sub Ratings] - Add these ratings with the main ratings if needed. [*] Conditional Queue Flag. The file was given an acceptable rating given under the condition that a certain something is fixed. [!] The judge did not play the file for some reason, such as blatantly obvious permission issues (like anyone submitting a Led Zepplin file, for example), technical problems, or multiple difficulties in the file. This is treated as a 0/10. >>> FILES IN QUEUE AND CONDITIONAL QUEUE See the Batch Search Engine Status Page for currently Queue'd and Conditional Queue'd Files. In addition, the Queued Files Spreadsheet is currently used for a more visually friendly way of determining whether or not a file is awaiting fixes (or a rating appeal), is accepted, or pending review. |
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I barely know anything about this, but couldn't you just delete all of the 'files queue'd on *date* (0)'?
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Again.
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ok trimmed a bit.
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Wow, i was just about to PM you about making a v2 of this thread xD
Guess I'm an hour late oops :) |
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Oh cool a new one of these. Easier to keep track of all the drama that goes by in this thread lmao
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Note to judges who are reviewing resubmissions: please try to take into account the notes from the previous judges who reviewed those files. None of you so far are likely doing this. They're resubmissions for a reason - otherwise, might as well submit these as a regular file. We're trying to reduce the tossing of files back and forth due to differing opinions. When you read the notes from other judges - they may reveal certain aspects that you may not have understood or noticed.
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[++] = 0
[+] = 6 [+.] = 5 [+?] = 4 [?] = 3 [-] = 5 [--] = 0 (although for one file this was tempting...) [n/a] = 1 (my own file) without resubmissions: [++] = 0 [+] = 4 [+.] = 2 [+?] = 4 [?] = 3 [-] = 5 [--] = 0 |
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Damn nice judge choices, I must say.
though for some reason I didn't see my name on there. :P |
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13th!!
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The end of the month feels like a lifetime away x___x
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I'm anxious to see how my collab did. =S
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I double rejected it
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All of the judges should get their notes done and out of the way early that way things can move along faster and not have to wait til the end of the month. =]
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If you haven't already, check my slight fix on AcidAce-Alliance I sent a few days ago
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:Now entering anxious mode:
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All right, new files will be worked on.
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Wouldn't it be a nice idea to post a link to see the actual songs in this batch?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/jimerax/batch110104.png Also, [Team 1] bmah psychoangel691 dore who_cares973 [New files - 20] From "Rising Action" to "You Goddamn Fish" and "Energizer", "Piano Practice". [Resubmissions - 6] From "{Lazy Summer Days}" to "Famicom Selecta" [Team 2] Gundam-Dude Patashu i love you TC_Halogen [New files - 20] From "A Battle for the Sky" to "Connect", excluding "Cheeseburger" [Resubmissions - 6] From "Sexplosion" to "Mysterious Desert", excluding "White Walls" [Team 3] Silvuh qqwref kommisar Arch0wl [New files - 19] From "Contain" to "Ready to go" and "Cheeseburger", excluding "Energizer", "Piano Practice" [Resubmissions - 7] From "Four Blocks Madness" to "Scavenger" and "White Walls" Judgement Deadline: 11:59:59 PM(CST/Server Time), Jan 31, 2011. |
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oversaturation isn't a good idea
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Just wondering, was there ever a final conclusion about feux d'artifice?
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I am very anxious to see how I did first time.
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notes sent:
NEW FILES [++] 1 [+] 4 [+.] 3 [+?] 7 [?] 1 [-] 4 RESUBMITS [++] [+] 3 [+.] 2 (1 [<]) [+?] 2 [?] [-] |
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I'll judge the last file tonight when I get home
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It's not that different from the other version tbh, so it should be pretty quick.
I also missed two files, so here's my update. Sorry, it just got a little worse: [++] = 0 [+] = 6 [+.] = 5 [+?] = 5 [?] = 3 [-] = 6 [--] = 0 (although for one file this was tempting...) [n/a] = 1 (my own file) without resubmissions: [++] = 0 [+] = 4 [+.] = 2 [+?] = 5 [?] = 3 [-] = 6 [--] = 0 |
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Can't wait to see the batch notes
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Is it me or is there a lot of rejects on this batch(well on part of it)?
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considering bmah and I are on the same team, there's probably quite a bit of overlap, and deservedly so
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Lots pf rejected files this batch not just you
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How many of the judges have sent in their notes so far?
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five, myself included
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Wow that still leaves 7.
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there's still two weeks
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Lol yeah, I guess I'm a bit anxious for the batch notes haha sry.
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You guys shouldn't feel too bad; I'm getting sucky results for my own songs too. Put aside the point system and just think of it as a learning process. Speaking of which, I've noticed that there are several new simfile artists in this batch, which is a great sign.
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that's true^^ my ++ wasn't from anybody I think I've ever played a file from, and then there were some not-good-but-you-can-tell-they-just-need-experience files
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well you can, you know, consult an established stepper
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Edit: But that's more reason for me to keep stepping and get better <3 |
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This is the only slight gripe I have about the point system - it's not entirely encouraging if you happen to do badly but still want to step files. |
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is there an eta on notes/reviews for files?
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i'm taking my time on notes. Will be done on my next day off next week.
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I guess I didn't post but I submitted the synced version of Badinerie a week? ago.
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add 2 sec silence to the mp3 and set offset, then resend the file. |
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k fixed that myself, now we have no conditional files.
EDIT: fixed submission rule #5, added #6. |
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Finished judging (unless I need to do more songs). If my count's right:
[+] - 8, including one [++] [+.] - 8 [+?] - 8 [?] - 1 [-] - 1 I didn't do the 8/8/8 thing on purpose. Pretty funny though. |
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Thank you qq! Halfway there, 6 more remaining.
edit: nope, make that only 5 more :) |
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finished my notes. send to you bmah i imagine?
[--]0 [-] 5 [?] 3 [+?] 5 [+.] 8 [+] 5 [++] 0 |
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I'll most likely get to judging this weekend since I don't have much homework and I'm not sick with a cold anymore. Will probably finish notes by Sunday.
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Cool, how many people do we have left to turn in notes. Its like Gundam, Kayla and Rebound as far as I know, missing anyone?
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And Silvuh.
@Gundam and Rebound: skip my "Another day" file; I made a significantly different chart that I'll submit next batch |
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/not up to date with thread. .
Even if batch is closed, can I send files in now and they'll get put in the next up and coming batch? |
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Actually I believe JX and bmah said they don't want new submissions being sent until the batch is reopened again. But resubmissions can be sent in anytime.
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I'm bored. BRB finishing my notes.
Also, i think that the deadline shouldn't be set for so long because some of the judges won't even touch the files until the deadline date starts to get close. I think setting it to at most two weeks should be good enough rather then setting it to nearly a month. |
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Yeah, you'd get notes a lot faster if it was set for two weeks (with anyone who can't finish in time being hurried along or replaced with a backup).
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Set date is pretty much to control the rate of files available and released, I'm fairly sure.
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2 weeks is a bit tights. 2.5 or 3 weeks would be good though
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I started working on notes the day I got the files but got distracted with some other stuff. Trying to finish up but for some reason sm is lagging like hell on my comp. But I'll probably be finished later tonight or tomorrow if I can get this thing running right.
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Okay i lied. I fell asleep judging the files and got lazy again when i woke up. Will finish the rest tomorrow since i only have 4 more files to go.
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(Me, me!) It would get tedious to keep up with however. |
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we'd run out of files pretty quick
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I don't see any merit in releasing files everyday constantly, just difficult to keep doing.
It only works for event time. |
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