Queue/Batch Discussion Thread
ALL SUBMISSIONS NEED TO BE SENT TO FOLLOWING ADDRESS AS A ZIP OR RAR.
(Submission address was changed on Nov 18, so please resend your files if you've sent files to the old address.) ffrsubmissions@gmail.com Batch is CLOSED Submission Deadline is 11:59:59 PM(CST/Server Time), Jan 2, 2011. You can still always send the fixed .dwi for queue'd/conditional queue'd files. Submission Rules If you want to submit files for FFR R1, please follow those rules. Or your file might be auto-rejected. 1. As an FFR submission, you must use .dwi format for your simfile (.sm file is optional). 2. Your file should be compressed with zip or rar format, and a folder is needed in your zip/rar file. 3. The name of the folder should be songname (username). i.e. [Magical 8bit Tour (jimerax)]. The artist name isn't needed in the folder name (It still needs to be written in the dwi file though). 4. You can only use songs that we have permission, so check it on permission thread before you step/submit. 5. The interval from the beginning to the part you put the first note of the song should be 2 or more seconds. If it doesn't, insert silence in the beginning of the song (or some notes in the beginning will be cut). 6. Graphics aren't needed, but having graphics is also ok. 7. Multiple difficulties (only 1 difficulty/1 file allowed), Freezes, Mines, Rolls are NOT allowed, so don't include them in your submissions. 8. The difficulty should be one of these (Beginner, Light, Standard, Heavy, Challenge). Don't use Edit. 9. Hands (triples and quads) are allowed, but be careful for not using hands too much (especially on easier songs). There're many players who generally hate hands. 10. You can use any (4th - 192nd) notes, and BPM changes, stops. 11. It should be a simfile that is fun to play for you and others, goes well to the song and captures all its themes and variations and has been confirmed to be on sync on a low music rate. Resubmission If you submitted files and they got rejected, you can resubmit them with some fixes to the next batch. Resubmissions aren't counted on your submission cap. Just put [Resubmission] at the top of the name of zip/rar file and folder ,then submit. i.e. [Resubmission] Magical 8bit Tour (jimerax).zip. If resubmissions are rejected again, re-resubmissions will be treated as regular submissions. If you want to minor-fix on a queue'd file, just send over the .dwi file to the submission e-mail. Submission Cap and Simfile Artist Point System [How to get Simfile Artist Points] Having a file (or more) in the game or queue -> +10 Getting 18/20 or more points in a file (11/27/2010 batch or later) -> +2 Getting 17/20 or fewer points in a file, which is accepted (11/27/2010 batch or later) -> +1 * collaboration files won't add points for you, but when you submit a collaboration file it's counted as 0.5 submission for each stepper. [Bonus/Penalty] (on 4 judges/team system) Getting 20/20 in a file -> bonus +1 Getting ++ from 2 judges -> bonus +2 Getting ++ from 3 judges -> bonus +5 Getting ++ from 4 judges -> bonus +10 Getting 4/20 in a file -> penalty -1 Getting -- from 2 judges -> penalty -2 Getting -- from 3 judges -> penalty -5 Getting -- from 4 judges -> penalty -10 Submitting more files than the cap with alt account -> penalty -3 Apparently stealing steps from other simfiles -> penalty -10 ex) A file got (++, ++, +, +), then +2 for 18/20 or more, +1 bonus for 20/20, +2 bonus for got ++ from 2 judges. Total +5pts. [Submission Cap by Simfile Artist Point] Negative pts - 1 0-9pts - 2 10-11pts - 3 12-19pts - 4 20-29pts - 5 30-39pts - 6 40-49pts - 7 50pts or more - 8 [Simfile Artist Point List] (excluding people who have 0pt or 10pts) [This list is temporary - as of Dec 25] User name - Current Point(Previous Point) [Submission Cap = 5] kommisar - 20(10) [Submission Cap = 4] who_cares973 - 16(10) Patashu - 15(10) jimerax - 13(10) bmah - 13(10) woker-X - 12(10) ElectricWerewolf - 12(10) Silvuh - 12(10) Dark_Chrysalis - 12(10) [Submission Cap = 3] buizel8888 - 11(10) megamon88 - 11(10) If you submit more files than your submission cap, we randomly determine files unless you tell us which ones you want to be judged). A Guide for simfile submission and judgement process http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=72047 General Simfle Making Guides How to make simfiles (for real guys edition) http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=48587 A real guide on how to make a good simfile http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=82080 The Official Names of Every Double and Triple http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=40024 Ultimate Simfile Guide (ODI wiki) http://www.omgdidinsane.com/wiki/ind..._Simfile_Guide Judement FFR JUDGES bmah (5/26/09 ~) Patashu (2/1/09 ~ 5/26/09, 12/19/09 ~) kommisar (2/1/09 ~ 5/26/09, 12/19/09 ~) who_cares973 (12/19/09 ~) jimerax (4/16/07 ~ 3/7/09, 10/27/10 ~) Gundam-Dude (10/27/10 ~) TC_Halogen (10/27/10 ~) Silvuh (10/27/10 ~) Korygon (10/27/10 ~) Vote4Nixon (10/27/10 ~) dore (5/26/09 ~ 12/19/09) bluguerrilla (7/2/08 ~ 12/2/09) Nsane (11/8/09 ~ 11/17/10) Tasselfoot (1/18/07 ~ 8/24/09) Rebirth0 (8/17/07 ~ 4/26/08) Shashakiro (1/18/07 ~ 8/1/07, 8/2/08 ~ 9/2/08) [Notes] We will Auto-Reject files that don't have a folder in the zip/rar file, or song name and stepartist's username in the folder name. Judges can Auto-Reject files that have multiple charts/freezes/mines/rolls without even playing it. These are the file ratings used right now: [Main Ratings] [++] [Strong Accept, 5/5] Reserved for real masterpieces or flawless files, rare rating. Same as [+] for the purposes of acceptance, but you will get bonus points if your file gets this rating from 2 or more judges. [+] [Accepted, 5/5] Highest rating, file is strongly accepted by the judge, maybe with minor suggestions. [+.] [Light Accept, 4/5] File is either weakly accepted due to being somewhat generic/uninteresting or is good enough for FFR but could use significant improvement. [+?] [Pending, 3/5] The file is decent overall but needs some important tweaks in certain areas, or has many small technical errors, or doesn't have enough replay value. Not accepted without changes. [?] [Light Reject, 2/5] The file has potential, but needs significant reworking in order to be good enough for FFR. Not close to acceptance. [-] [Rejected, 1/5] The lowest rating that you will likely achieve. The file is basically pretty bad and needs to be completely redone, or the file was rejected for the following: -A freeze arrow or mine was used anywhere in the file -A significantly incorrect BPM was used -A section of it was way, way, way too hard, like a wall of 64th quads or something similarly ridiculous If any of the above are noticed, the judge has the right to immediately quit out and give the file a [-] rating, regardless of the quality of the rest of the file. [--] [Hard Reject, 1/5] Extremely bad file, or files just for kidding judges. Rare rating, and completely waste of time for judges. You will get some penalties if your file gets this rating from 2 or more judges. [Sub Ratings] - Add these ratings with the main ratings if needed. [#] The judge made the file (it may rarely happen due to mis-grouping). [<] There is already a better file for this song in the queue or in the batch, and the file is not suitable as a V2. [$] The file is better than the queue'd file that uses completely the same song, and it should be replaced with the old one (there's similarity in difficulty or stepping style). [!] The judge did not play the file for some reason, such as blatantly obvious permission issues (like anyone submitting a Led Zepplin file, for example), technical problems, or multiple difficulties in the file. THE QUEUE LIST As of Jan 12, 2011: 46 files are in the regular queue, 1 files are in the conditional queue. Red means song has been added but not released yet. Blue means song has been released to subscribers but not the public. Green means a pending song, which is in the Queue but has some permission problems(not counted as a queue'd file). [Easy] - Difficulty 1-5 [FGO] - Difficulty 12 [FSO] - Difficulty 13 Files queue'd on 8/22/07 (0) Files queue'd on 9/25/07 (0) Files queue'd on 10/15/07 (0) Files queue'd on 11/7/07 (0) Files queue'd on 12/20/07 (0) Files queue'd on 2/3/08 (0) Files queue'd on 2/28/08 (0) Files queue'd on 3/18/08 (0) Files queue'd on 7/31/08 (0) Files queue'd on 8/19/08 (0) Files queue'd on 10/17/08 (0) Files queue'd on 12/1/08 (0) Files queue'd on 1/9/09 (0) Files queue'd on 3/7/09 (0) Files queue'd on 5/26/09 (1) Skeletor - psycho / blu Files queue'd on 8/24/09 (0) Files queue'd on 11/22/10 (13) Bit Blue (Xandertrax) C7 Funk (Xandertrax) Chase You Down (Silvuh) Grocery Escape Plan (dore & blu) Jamais Deux (DossarLX ODI) [FGO] No Running Water(who_cares973) Overdrive (bluguerrilla) Song of the second moon (bluguerrilla) Voodoo People (megamon88) Yellow Lasers (dore) Floating Through Time(who_cares973) Over The Ocean (omgitznpv) The Fusion (Patashu) Files queue'd on 12/26/10 (21) Field of Snow (Patashu) Champion Freeverse (wc) Can Can (woker-X) Puzzle (bmah & leonid) Ice Disk (ElectricWerewolf) Miraiya (bmah) Lune Noir (Kory) Variations 2 (jimerax) Staring at my Spaceship (Kommisar) - I'll fix some rhythms REVERSE SQUIGGLY (Silvuh) Grist (Patashu) The Battle With The Betrayed (Patashu) Fly away -mix del matador- (bmah) - fix misrhythms He's a Pirate - F-777 ReMiX (megamon88) 2008 (Kommisar) Cinnamon Roll (Kommisar) Destination Unknown (Dark_Chrysalis) Guitar Sounds (who_cares973) Infinity Hyperspace (Kommisar) Waltz In The Rain (who_cares973) Tamashii (Dark_Chrysalis) Files queue'd from old conditional queue (11) St. Scarhand - hi19hi19 [FGO] Marisa Stole the Precious Thing - classic rocker - IT'S FINALLY READY Betrayal of Fate - Patashu The Past - Spitfire Kanon Medley - classic_rocker Sunny Funny Chiny - Spitfire DKC2 Symphonic Rock - BDN bundy - bdn Arrogant Cobbler - kommisar TizAshura - V4N RAIN - spitfire & blu Conditional Queue List Conditional Queue'd on 11/22/10 (1) Badinerie (Bluearrowll) - FIX SYNC If your file is not on either of these lists, it has been rejected and likely needs a decent or complete overhaul before it would be accepted. |
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Cool, let's just hope hi19's files aren't repetitive and completely random again and Kit-'s not completely retarded with jumpstream, jacks, etc etc.
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Sweet, thats a pretty list.
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What was wrong with my file? |
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Yes Fall is mine, also can you e-mail out the neccessary fixes please? :)
Thanks for this thread :D:D:D |
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Thats a lot of Rebirth. He must be really busy making all of these files.
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PLEASE Hi19 I hope your simfiles aren't like your destiny >_<
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Get Ready to Rokk...
Awesome... |
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I see. Good times lie ahead.
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HOLY CRAP!!! w00t w00t!!! Man when I get a little older and better at FFR I am definetly going to do some stepfiling. This is awesome!
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Any possibility we could vote on the new SOTW? seeing as how there are so many options.
Personally I'd like to see Air on ffr pronto, as well as Psychosis. |
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alas though... you will note that a large number of the files we've accepted or are really close to accepting are from a small number of people.
these same people have very few files that are rejected. you'll notice that there are a fairly small number of files from random people on the above list. there are a very LARGE number of files from random people in the rejected list. that most certainly is not a coincidence. i don't want to discourage anyone from submitting files... but making a good file DOES take practice. we recommend making a few files for SM before attempting one for FFR, since you can publically release a file for SM and have people critique it. files for FFR, you don't get that luxury. |
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Oh, and your file might also be untested if it's not on here...if that's a confusion.
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Sweet! I love get ready to rokk xD
Destiny is pretty cool too :) |
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nice songs :)
may i suggest love fighter? that is a great file and song which you can add fun licks to plus i believe rebirth wins for most files on this site that are actually good congrats on mod status chris and i find it more amazing the quality of stepfiles in general cuz i'm too lazy to actually try and step things xD |
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So this makes.. 6 files rejected for FFR, two of which rejected for no explainable reason.
Encouraging. Mostly the two without reasoning behind them. |
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which 2?
and BLAZZE... i played your file earlier today. so did Shash. i honestly don't remember what was wrong with it. but it was full of AIDS. we both flat out rejected it (we have a whole system of partial rejection, partial accepting, etc etc). EDIT: the SGX song from Mario Paint... for me, it was just bland. like, there wasn't really anything wrong with it. there just wasn't anything in it to make it a good and fun file. not sure which other one you're referring to. It was also EXTREMELY repetitive (the song), IIRC. |
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Hey Tass / Shash, would it be possible for me to run a possible file by you guys? I know how busy both of you are, but I think this game is in some desparate need of some more Cranky.
If not you guys, would anyone be willing to give me suggestions / fixes? PM me please. |
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Exag0n, you can always send us stuff to look over... just send the file to both of our usernames@gmail.com
And as Shash said... we always have a reason for rejecting a file. We just might not always explain it to the author of the stepfile. |
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Intense Color - SGX
Disconnected HaZaRD - DM Ashura I'm pretty sure the very fast stream section in HaZaRD is why you didn't accept the file, but this is the PM I got from you regarding it: "i played it.... i think there was something wrong with it. don't recall offhand." And Intense Color, I sent to you recently. Didn't get any e-mail back and now it's not in the queue, so I'm assuming you had no intention of explaining what was wrong with it other than "needs a decent or major overhaul". Edit: I'm aware there's always a reason, I kind of worded that wrong. "No explained reason" would have been better. Not that I expect you guys to critique every single song that gets sent your way. |
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I'm pretty sure my file was rejected either because:
a)un index friendly b)sharpnel |
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Wow index friendly files? More than a handfull were bull**** retarded sims with the rating of )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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blazze... it just sucked. i can play it again sometime when you bug me on AIM. but it really wasn't good.
and iwhai: see above... i edited in reasoning for why Intense Color was rejected. disconnected hazard did have something to do with the stream... probably other stuff also. you have to realize we're getting about 5 new files every day, and most of them we only play once. |
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Oh well. It's just another day off of school wasted on a stepfile. I'll try stepping something from those guys that gave me permission from NG. |
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I'm absolutley loving the ITG songs!
Xuxa, July, Destiny! Can't wait!!!! Hopefully these won't be secret. ;) |
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Eh?
What's wrong with Video Out A now? I'll de-jack Anubis tomorrow I guess. Also, I don't seem to see my stepfile for Idol on there, even though I swear I've submitted it like 6 times in various forms... was that rejected again, too? Anyway, this list thingy is REALLY useful for keeping track of submissions. Thanks. EDIT- Everybody, Destiny was a JOKE! Not all my sims suck, okay? Case in point: {Rose} |
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Overstepped...too many jumps, basically.
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revolution mentioned love fighter, is there any possibility of getting the song on FFR? Also, Cranky rules.
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May I ask which version of Science Genius Girl was accepted?
EDIT- -Fallen-, Anubis is only 110 bpm, which apparently means that all the jacks will register normally anyway. I'm just getting rid of ones that I've been told don't go to the music. |
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I see happy days coming...you guys have a great list!! Looking forwad to playing Freezepop.
Speaking of which, When you have the time, can you PM me what's wrong with mine? I'll fix it if I have to. |
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Kick ass. I totally can't wait to play Rebirth's version of Z. If it's as good as Snap's version for SM was, I'm whoring it until I AAA it... or until I get pissed because I CAN'T AAA it... either/or :D
Anubis... this should be cool too. Three more songs by cornandbeans will rule as well. A very well-rounded list; kudos to you all. |
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Is the Aztic Temple the one from Sonic 2? J/w. |
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4. Rebirth & i love you: Smiley - Destiny
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Oh thank god :P |
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Can't wait to see baha's file.
And what's this crap about index friendly when some of the stuff Shash has stepped (EHHS, Rottel) hasn't been? |
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MML... your files are just bad. all around bad. everything needs to be fixed.
and hi19... for Science Genius... i think the newest version? don't really know otherwise. |
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Nice list! But I can see alot of songs that are probably going to be in the secret section. xO
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Dang... no {Midnight}?
I was looking forward to that. : ( |
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I'm drunk
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This is probably the best thing ever
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triple posting for the win
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wow, haha
I sent one in that I thought was decent, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was thorough suck and I just couldn't tell |
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Sent you one Tass & Shash.
Much love if you'd comment on it / help me improve it (provided it's not good enough, of course). |
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Meh just submitted one.
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sweet
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Is this list going to be updated? Weekly? Monthly?
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it's going to be updated whenever Tass sends me another batch of files to play.
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yea... what Shash said. basically... about once a week when we get together with out big think notebooks with all of our notes on each and every file, then we use an abacus to weigh the good vs the bad, and if my Rock'em Sock'em Robot manages to pop the head off of his Rock'em Sock'em Robot... then the files gets into the game.
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guess you're in luck... we just released one of those 4.
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Tass, why do you absolutely refuse to tell me what's wrong with my Jurs OP file?
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Don't bother; I'll probably step jurs op next so you don't have to worry about your file anymore.
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Looking forward to Z and Air :)
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nice list.. yay more ITG's ... i hope flower forever get fix i've been waiting for that song to come
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Oh wow, this list is incredible. Thanks Tass and Shash!
Edit:Needs to be stickied. |
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Updates y/n?
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Aw my Bridge was most likely rejected lol. Probably due to the fact that it was too short... that WAS the reason, right Tass?
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no. it was rejected cause it sucked. length is really not a factor in our decisions, so long as it is good. we were given another version of Bridge by someone else... still haven't decided on it.
and FYI... i have TWENTY THREE files in my e-mail inbox. but seeing as i'm working between 9 and 11 hours Mon-Fri this week, I won't be playing them until the weekend. expect a huge update this sat/sun with the 23 songs plus any new ones we get until then. i expect it to be about 30 songs we'll be playing and evaluating. |
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I'll be sending you the file i'm working on sometime later this week. Dore, jimerax, and Kit gave me a bunch of tips so hopefully it will be a lot better than my gay sharpnel file.
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I'm also working on a file (song artist is making a better version of the song, i'm still stepping the first version for experience.)
Any general tips that would help a stepfile not suck? (Besides don't B.S.) |
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experience and critique... you'll only get better by making more files and getting advice from many people on them. and learn from their advice to make changes and future files better.
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