Flash Flash Revolution - TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Votecount:
storn (1)- Xel
ben (4)- fatfuck, raeko, choof, kappa
DBP (1)- bugkid
subaru (1)- Xiz
gold stinger (1)- storn
fg (1)- shadow_god
logman (5)- gold stinger, haku, charu, ben, fg
Haku (1)- Subaru
shadow_god (1)- dbp
xiz (1)- Mcdaddio
Mcdaddio (1)- Celery
Kappa (3)- Force, cedo, Freezin
unvote- roundbox

this votecount at T-2 minutes seems to be the critical moment before the Haku wagon.

blind votes Haku.
Force leaves Kappa, goes to Haku.
roundbox leaves unvote, goes to Haku.

The Haku wagon SEEMS to be one to defend Kappa, primarily.

Then: why not Logman?
Because that would be too obvious.
Then: why not Ben?
Ben might actually be a wolf too. But what is weird is that Kappa is on Ben. Hmm.

On the Logman wagon: FG, Charu, and Ben look sus at this point in time.

XelNya

07-26-2021 07:04 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4766531)

I'll try out celery's name out in future votecounts

hahahahahahaha

DaBackpack

07-26-2021 07:05 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Force leaving Kappa and moving onto Haku is super sus too.

Shadow_God_10

07-26-2021 07:05 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4766516)

Kappa gains more votes after this post.

I reread EoD, and it's actually when KAPPA gets votes that the scramble onto Haku begins.

roundbox, I don't think you ever described why you voted Haku at the end there. why did you vote him? there was zero action around him in the last few minutes.

@DBP He did when I asked him about it

Give me a second and I'll find it.

Shadow_God_10

07-26-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4766371)

@Lewdy

Your EOD was reminiscent of the most recent TWEWY game. I remember wolfreading you at an EOD for being frozen, and I thought it was happening again. As soon as I posted my vote with my observation in tow, you made a post right around the same time that went completely against my point (you were making very surface-level posts around the same topic). I thought I was wrong about you, so I went to Haku because of their vote on Logman.
Once the heat started piling on Haku (my vote with Force and Blind was unintentionally simultaneous), I jumped off. I kinda regret it in retrospect, because I don't see any foul play with blind, and I've been pretty fond of Force's game so far.

this post re: Celery vote
He went for an off-wagon after an unvote. Sure, you can say I did the same thing, but I'm not sure what the vote from Celery on to mcdaddio with that specific reasoning really satisfies my "yeah, this is a good reason to not jump on a train"

to a point, I do think it is a slightly bad habit of mine to be stubborn and typically give more preference to wagons I started and vote off the main stuff (early game), but eh, I think I've said enough

Here it is

DaBackpack

07-26-2021 07:07 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4765809)

Haku

Kappa sticking to guns. I like it. Not piggybacking.

This is a really bad post in retrospect. It lacks urgency. "I like it." is a weird tone to justify swapping onto Haku, a rando.

XelNya

07-26-2021 07:08 PM

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... Shadow can I ask a really mean spirited question

why is it that you seem content to easy mode vote storn, but you've got that fucking post on fairly quick dial

that is outta place to me

DaBackpack

07-26-2021 07:08 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

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Originally Posted by Celirra (Post 4765812)

ill show u a terrible post
*unzips dick*

bad post. zero urgency. vote still on mcdaddio. again, no investment

bugkid666

07-26-2021 07:09 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4765809)

Haku

Kappa sticking to guns. I like it. Not piggybacking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4766537)

This is a really bad post in retrospect. It lacks urgency. "I like it." is a weird tone to justify swapping onto Haku, a rando.

"not piggybacking" he said, piggybacking

Shadow_God_10

07-26-2021 07:09 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4766538)

... Shadow can I ask a really mean spirited question

why is it that you seem content to easy mode vote storn, but you've got that fucking post on fairly quick dial

that is outta place to me

Because I asked Roundbox about it earlier and he responded to me, and I remembered seeing it somewhere

I ISO'd Roundbox and found the post.

XelNya

07-26-2021 07:11 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4766541)

Because I asked Roundbox about it earlier and he responded to me, and I remembered seeing it somewhere

I ISO'd Roundbox and found the post.

roundbox

07-26-2021 07:11 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

you're taking Xiz's word on this experiment
you have no control over his actions

I'm assuming we'll get the same information out of xiz being eliminated here or <insert player here> being eliminated here. I don't think sacrificing Xiz specifically is going to give us any better results than another player.

roundbox

07-26-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4766523)

Voting off a wolf in this game doesn't even have the same consequence as usual, so trying to play this game 100% like a "normal" game and hoping it'll work out is wishful thinking imho.

How do you know this? Seriously, how do you know this?

DaBackpack

07-26-2021 07:19 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

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Originally Posted by the sun fan (Post 4765855)

please let me know PRIVATELY on discord if the following votecount is incorrect

Votecount:
storn (1)- Xel
ben (4)- fatfuck, raeko, choof, kappa
DBP (1)- bugkid
fg (1)- shadow_god
logman (6)- gold stinger, haku, charu, ben, fg, funky
Haku (5)- Subaru, Force, storn, xiz, blind
shadow_god (1)- dbp
xiz (2)- Mcdaddio, spongebob
Mcdaddio (1)- Celery
Kappa (2)- cedo, Freezin
celery (1)- roundbox

you have until :15

I think I sort of get the story here. Sort of

Kappa was gaining traction, so votes were placed there. But momentum was cooling down, so votes needed to go somewhere else.

To protect Ben.

Funky's vote came super last-minute. It almost came down to a KitB. Ben's wagon was fairly stable. So either place votes on Logman, or find another CFD, and siphon votes away from Ben.

I think roundbox's vote was an accident in this context. Wrong place at the wrong time.
Force's is extremely suspicious.
blind's is also actually extremely suspicious. If he weren't a PR he would look super bad. (The PR thing is the only thing saving him right now. Revisit him later.)
Xiz's could go either way.
storn's looks like shit.

Ben and Force look like a concrete wolf pairing to me. storn, maybe. Will need to look into more

reuben_tate

07-26-2021 07:22 PM

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To give some context to some of my earlier posts, I believed that there is a non-neglible chance that there are a pair of wolves in the other game. In particular, I was thinking that log and gold were a possible wolf pairing. This was why I didn't appear too enthralled when gold said that he thinks that subaru should take the hit, especially if the plan was coming from him.

I was planning to wait until the insta before starting to move my mental energy to the main game. I know it should be possible to "chew gum and walk" at the same time, but I was seeing this as a two-step process where the 2nd step (figuring out what to do in this game) is highly dependent on the 1st step (having an insta occur in the other game) in which case, worrying about that 2nd step.

It's unfortunate that what happened is way outside the realm of possibilities I had in my head. I was not expecting the self-vote by gold and I was not expecting thesunfan to end the phase the way he did. A lot of my previous thoughts up to this point was under the impression that gold was likely wolf, but I don't think a wolf would self-vote like gold did and so now I'm needing to re-evaluate things for this game.

bugkid666

07-26-2021 07:25 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4766545)

blind's is also actually extremely suspicious. If he weren't a PR he would look super bad. (The PR thing is the only thing saving him right now. Revisit him later.)

is there a reason we should believe his PR claim? is there a reason for him to lie?

Charu

07-26-2021 07:27 PM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

Ben, let me ask you something, think this is legit my first question to you all game.

So by what I just read and your earlier posts, you believe there has to be a wolf in the other game? Am I reading you right?

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