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Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:26 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764863)
AM i the jester? or do i just want you to THINK i'm the jester

You're supposed to talk about the players who are talking about you because you want to get somewhere productive.

No one can decide anything about jesters here.

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:31 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I usually town read you because you eventually pick a player and try to explain stuff no one really pointed out.

I know we're early, but I'm desesperate for quick town reads.

TWGma 07-23-2021 01:32 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4764764)
WELCOME BACK EVERYBODY TO CYBERNAUT HI IM YOUR HOST 'FREE MENTAL TRAMA FOR A MONTH' WHO IS READY TO DO SOMETHING STUPID FOR MY AMUSEMENT

And don't forget, if any problems arise, be sure to DM me even though 95% of the time it's bot related and you should ping Benguin instead.



I said it before, and I'll reiterate again: I don't think it's worth speculating on the charts until some piece of information about either them, or the surveys comes out in thread.

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:33 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764873)
And don't forget, if any problems arise, be sure to DM me even though 95% of the time it's bot related and you should ping Benguin instead.



I said it before, and I'll reiterate again: I don't think it's worth speculating on the charts until some piece of information about either them, or the surveys comes out in thread.

I don't understand why you quote Xiz to say this.

storn42 07-23-2021 01:36 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4764872)
I usually town read you because you eventually pick a player and try to explain stuff no one really pointed out.

I know we're early, but I'm desesperate for quick town reads.

so what you're saying is that if i want people to scum read me i gotta to the opposite of that. got it!

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:37 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4764874)
I don't understand why you quote Xiz to say this.

To give you the TL;DR

T-Force helped Xiz run Season 2 of Cybernaut

TWGma 07-23-2021 01:37 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Because the top half is a Cybernaut related joke.

If you see me put multiple lines of space in my posts, it's supposed to be separate thoughts.
Like, top part is the replying to the quote, bottom part is a completely different thought/topic.

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:37 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764875)
so what you're saying is that if i want people to scum read me i gotta to the opposite of that. got it!

BRUH

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:41 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764875)
so what you're saying is that if i want people to scum read me i gotta to the opposite of that. got it!

You're doing a great job imo. Fortunately, I don't think people will be convinced easily.
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764877)
Because the top half is a Cybernaut related joke.

If you see me put multiple lines of space in my posts, it's supposed to be separate thoughts.
Like, top part is the replying to the quote, bottom part is a completely different thought/topic.

Yeah sorry. My brain short circuited. It felt like you two didn't need to solve each other and I didn't consider the cybernaut part of it.

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:43 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Well, I guess the same could be said about me and Shadow God.

storn42 07-23-2021 01:43 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4764879)
You're doing a great job imo. Fortunately, I don't think people will be convinced easily.

so you're saying by doing that people will think i WANT them to scum read me and therefore they wont scumread me and i'll stay alive. good plan!

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:46 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4764880)
Well, I guess the same could be said about me and Shadow God.

If you're gonna lump me in with you, you need to elaborate here.

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:46 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764881)
so you're saying by doing that people will think i WANT them to scum read me and therefore they wont scumread me and i'll stay alive. good plan!

My personal favorite is to help people while being useless, but to each their own.

Alright take care. Gotta sleep. Long day tomorrow.

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:46 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764881)
so you're saying by doing that people will think i WANT them to scum read me and therefore they wont scumread me and i'll stay alive. good plan!


Hakulyte 07-23-2021 01:48 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764882)
If you're gonna lump me in with you, you need to elaborate here.

I'm convinced you're town because I played wolf with you and you don't play like that.

TWGma 07-23-2021 01:48 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
It's almost worth keeping storn alive just to watch Shadow slowly devolve into madness.

storn42 07-23-2021 01:50 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764886)
It's almost worth keeping storn alive just to watch Shadow slowly devolve into madness.

i'll be honest its a lot of fun

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:53 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764887)
i'll be honest its a lot of fun


Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 01:54 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Alright that's enough for tonight. I'm going to pass out... I have to be up in 12 hours for work

Hakulyte 07-23-2021 02:02 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764886)
It's almost worth keeping storn alive just to watch Shadow slowly devolve into madness.

I think Shadow had enough wine for tonight.

Shadow_God_10 07-23-2021 02:02 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I do feel obligated to mention that I caved and purchased OPPAI Academy...

It's VERY much worth the price.... ;)

bugkid666 07-23-2021 02:05 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4764791)
idk to me it's kinda weird that the person who signed up last isnt on it

not necessarily if he didn't fill out the survey? but idk if it's even based on the survey. i agree that it'd be difficult to quantify free-form responses

bugkid666 07-23-2021 02:08 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4764812)
we're already engaged lolz

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

bugkid666 07-23-2021 02:17 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bugkid666 (Post 4764368)
yeah it's impossible/useless to read too much into it yet, was just sorta curious if anyone had a hunch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764836)
arbitrary and utterly useless

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764837)
I can give you a tidbit, but I'm not sure if it'll help

Originally I, and I think T-Force thought that it was used to sort out alignment, but thought we were reading too much into it.

DBP asked why he was left off the graph which was then I, and probably a bunch of us did a double check and confirmed he was off the graph.

I, and probably everyone then remembered Greg saying that DBP and Plop (sorry Cedo) said they had not sent in their surveys.

The graph is totally useless because it's missing two people from it.

i put these in chronological order starting with my own. i think we've determined that even if it is based on the survey, it isn't going to help anyone trying to figure out the intentions of the alignment chart. so i think we can pin this and come back to it later, if at all.

and to explain my vote to those who will inevitably grill me... if backpack is out of the game early, he can spend more time with me :)

the sun fan 07-23-2021 02:24 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Votecount:
Funnygurl (1)- Force
storn (4)- storn, Xel, shadow_god, choof
shadow_god (1)- gold stinger
dbp (2)- fg, bugkid

mcdaddio 07-23-2021 02:29 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764868)
Mcdaddio, I'm assuming you're just trying to feel around and get an idea of what's going on here.

Some thoughts of yours would be helpful.

you are absolutely correct. i dont know if there's much of anything to read into here regarding people's words. i havent seen anything obviously sus and we have disregarded the charts soooooo i guess lets all just keep talking

mcdaddio 07-23-2021 02:32 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764873)
And don't forget, if any problems arise, be sure to DM me even though 95% of the time it's bot related and you should ping Benguin instead.



I said it before, and I'll reiterate again: I don't think it's worth speculating on the charts until some piece of information about either them, or the surveys comes out in thread.

omg the season 2 memories

cedolad 07-23-2021 05:16 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764827)
Both of you are incorrect. He was left out because he failed to fill out the survey. There should be 28 of us (replacements included) on the graph.

Cedolad is also missing.

This is a dead end.

But I'm on there, look closely

cedolad 07-23-2021 05:22 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Alright d0 nonsense finally read. My hot take on the alignment chart, they're from surveys duh, irrelevant and useless at the moment.

Also dang man an edit and no mod kill this isn't spicy enough then

cedolad 07-23-2021 05:39 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Btw I work like 7 days a week, so be prepared for perma mush brain cedo, sorry

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 05:43 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Gonna actually start reading the thread now, oops

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 05:44 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
If anyone wants to keep me company, I'll be periodically checking the latest posts in the thread.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 05:49 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Gonna post as I read because I'm on a phone atm and I don't feel like doing a megapost.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 05:56 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
My initial thought was that the charts are based on the survey responses. I know there was a direct question regarding the evil/good axis but it isn't immediately obvious to me how the lawful/chaotic axis is determined yet.

I'm guessing people have already discussed them already so I guess I'll see what y'all think momentarily.

My gut tells me that these charts will be of interest later but not now. It's a good conversation starter at the very least

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:02 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I'm bumping the t-force hummus discourse...I need to know precisely what kind/brand of hummus we're talkin about

mellon_collie 07-23-2021 06:05 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4764907)
I'm bumping the t-force hummus discourse...I need to know precisely what kind/brand of hummus we're talkin about

Spicy hummus! mmmm

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:05 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764395)
idk bout yalk but I am tentatively hype to play with someone called

uh

spongebobismysenpai

If anyone else needs a senpai-figure in their lives, feel free to call me benpai.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:06 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mellon_collie (Post 4764908)
Spicy hummus! mmmm

I can get behind this. Now, what is your preferred snack to dip into he hummus? Carrot sticks? Crackers? Your bare hands?

cedolad 07-23-2021 06:15 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4764910)
I can get behind this. Now, what is your preferred snack to dip into he hummus? Carrot sticks? Crackers? Your bare hands?

Naan bread mmm

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:17 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad (Post 4764911)
Naan bread mmm

This is the most correct answer, congrats

mellon_collie 07-23-2021 06:18 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cedolad (Post 4764911)
Naan bread mmm

This is the correct answer. Carrots suck and are underserving of hummus imo. Celery is acceptable but.... naan is the way

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:20 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4764401)
im not on the alignment chart :(

Neither is plop. Everyone else (including replacements) is on there.

Iirc, it is also the case that you two are the only ones that didn't do the survey. So this seems to heavily suggest that indeed, both charts are based on the survey answers.

(If someone else already pointed this out, my bad)

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:26 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4764444)
It's pretty lewd, like 10/10 on the lewd scale.

I'll pass
Give me 11/10's or higher plz

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:30 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4764464)
Sure, and I'm actually the most polite person on this entire web forum.

Good point. I mean, you've retired from cat-punting for how many years now?

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:33 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4764491)
Not important.

It's meme time Charu.

MEME. TIME.


MEME TIME is an anagram or MIME MEET

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:37 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roundbox (Post 4764528)

I love this

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:38 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bugkid666 (Post 4764546)
imagine being over a year old

I'm baby

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:39 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
inb4 someone is like "bitch, you're 28"

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:39 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764547)
Yeah, you're not dead yet

ty <3

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:40 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
if there is a minimum post count for each phase, these carry over right?

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:53 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I might be reading too much into it, but the word "day" in blind's "must post once a day minimum" post caught my attention. I feel like most post-minumums I've seen are phase-based. I know the words "day" and "phase" can sometimes be used interchangeably, but to do so in this context (e.g. saying "day" and meaning "phase") feels weird. The timing suggests that perhaps actual days (e.g. 24-hour periods) is what is meant?

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 06:57 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 4764632)
ngl actually quite surprised with how slow-pace this d0 is for how many players are participating in it.

I am somewhat used to getting bombarded with 50/60-page d0's.

I'm certainly not complaining. I'm back in Hawaii for another week or so, so I have to get used to being (mostly) alone at night and reading a bunch of posts at once Dx

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:07 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
reuben

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:08 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555 (Post 4764713)
fun fact, did you know that t-force's pp is exactly 3 mm long? this was confirmed by none other than our host thesunfan

-t-force has a 3mm pp

mm = million miles

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:08 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4764925)
reuben

rood

mellon_collie 07-23-2021 07:10 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4764925)
reuben

:o

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:10 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I didnt like your re-entry into the thread. At all.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:11 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart (Post 4764724)
differentiation acquired

next up: integration

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:11 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Specifically the 4th post u made about the chart.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:11 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4764929)
I didnt like your re-entry into the thread. At all.

It's ok, I make awkward entrances, I would vote for myself too

mellon_collie 07-23-2021 07:12 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4764932)
It's ok, I make awkward entrances, I would vote for myself too

:thonk:

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:16 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
4th post in overall to be specific, that 4th post having to do with the chart

english is a great language

なんちゃって

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:17 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4764778)
Keep it in your pants, bird man D:

Ok

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:17 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I should probably sleep before i butcher more grammar

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:19 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
I did say a lot of things about the chart. Was there something in particular I said about it that you didn't like? Or was it like...just the general vibe of the post that felt off?

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:25 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764785)
I'm under the assumption that these silly graphs are at least somewhat related to survey responses so I don't think this matters

Probably isn't the case, but it's gonna bother me if I don't say anything about it:

There's always the possibility that the survey responses were somehow used in determining the setup/roles for the game? In which case, they'll be important (although we'll probably have to wait until after d0 to learn more if this is the case).

FreezinIce 07-23-2021 07:27 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
General vibe id say

choof 07-23-2021 07:32 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4764932)
It's ok, I make awkward entrances, I would vote for myself too

terrible post
also stop getting stuck on these stupid graphs

choof 07-23-2021 07:37 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4764914)
Neither is plop. Everyone else (including replacements) is on there.

Iirc, it is also the case that you two are the only ones that didn't do the survey. So this seems to heavily suggest that indeed, both charts are based on the survey answers.

(If someone else already pointed this out, my bad)

"heavily"
there is a single question about alignment

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:45 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764940)
terrible post
also stop getting stuck on these stupid graphs

If I have thoughts about the graphs, I will share them. I don't want to die and have those thoughts go unsaid if they actually happen to be important in the future.

I've already mentioned (twice) these charts probably aren't going to help us solve anything during d0, I'm not getting stuck on anything.

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:49 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764941)
"heavily"
there is a single question about alignment

The "heavily" here is in reference to "people completing the survey" = "people on the chart". It sounds like you're suggesting that either those two sets of people being the same is a coincidence or that the only people who took the survey appear on the chart but somehow their positions are determined by something other than the survey answers?

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 07:55 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4764873)
And don't forget, if any problems arise, be sure to DM me even though 95% of the time it's bot related and you should ping Benguin instead.



I said it before, and I'll reiterate again: I don't think it's worth speculating on the charts until some piece of information about either them, or the surveys comes out in thread.

You were the best middle-man <3

choof 07-23-2021 07:57 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
it's a bit of a no brainer that the charts are influenced by the surveys
but I am struggling to think of how, for example, answers to "do you like to win or like having fun" influence where you are on an x/y graph when the axes are all marked "????"
for the bottom one the only question we know the directly impacts this is the questions about alignment
all we know right now is that based on your answers your avatar was arbitrarily placed on two graphs

choof 07-23-2021 07:59 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
theres also me being in lawful neutral which is objectively incorrect

choof 07-23-2021 08:01 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storn42 (Post 4764875)
so what you're saying is that if i want people to scum read me i gotta to the opposite of that. got it!

can we pls just kill storn first

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 08:12 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Ok, one last thing about the charts and I'll shut up about them lol.

My answer to question six in the survey (the good/evil/neutral question) is in agreement with the row of the 2nd chart (i.e. I answered "neutral" and I appear in the "neutral" row).

I wanted to point this out because I don't want to assume that this observation holds for everyone if it happens that this observation is just a coincidence for me.

choof 07-23-2021 08:14 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
if they didnt hold for everyone then they'd be truly worthless

reuben_tate 07-23-2021 08:24 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Bed time for me

Funnygurl555 07-23-2021 10:13 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choof (Post 4764945)
it's a bit of a no brainer that the charts are influenced by the surveys
but I am struggling to think of how, for example, answers to "do you like to win or like having fun" influence where you are on an x/y graph when the axes are all marked "????"
for the bottom one the only question we know the directly impacts this is the questions about alignment
all we know right now is that based on your answers your avatar was arbitrarily placed on two graphs

well i said "i like having fun" "evil" "i don't read the rules" "i'm not reading wall posts" "C H A O S" so i'm not surprised i'm chaotic evil but idk why i'm the most chaotic evil

XelNya 07-23-2021 10:59 AM

Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4764934)
4th post in overall to be specific, that 4th post having to do with the chart

english is a great language

なんちゃって

English sucks, the Japanese language is unironically better and easier on the ears.

Then there’s how us amuricans butched words like armour and even now my spellcheck is angry at me for spelling it properly hnnnnng


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