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Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:26 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750195)
One key aspect about TWG that I feel doesn't get enough cred is the relationships people have with players outside of the game.
It's easier for us to believe in and feel the tone behind players that we know better. When we can read the posts in their voice and know their tones within it.


Moreso in point with the above part of this post, I think that, if FG is a wolf, she wants a friend around that she thinks she can easily sway into believing her to be town.
Especially if he flips town later, that could look good for her down the line based on his reads at the time.
Obviously this is an assumption, but I do think FG's wanting to save FFA is based on her relationship with FFA.

And, on the flipside, it again ties in with my read on Raeko.

Interesting take here.

I never really considered using relationships between other people in the roster as kind of a way of seeing into the game.

That's not really angleshooting, is it? Feels more like an opinion? I think?

YoshL 11-24-2020 10:26 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750191)
Eh I still think it leans Haku as town, at the end of the day the misinterpretation feels like a sincere one

I'm thinking of for example a scenario where wolfteam does not have kristoph so there's no need to read role, or something hillarious where wolfteam does have kristoph and assumes without clarification? even a sincere misinterpretation doesn't weight that heavily, at least to me i guess

i also don't like haku's wallpost and end of phase at all from last night. it sits pretty badly with me, but i'm probably going to need to just look at some other things for the time being.

I'm assuming ulle is never the night kill there, and is most likely a vigi shot fully resolving the kitb, which means generally Xiz is the wolf kill.

I usually don't have good grasps on xiz early game, so i'm unsure if it's reads based, or blue hunting, but probably hella worth perusing dead reads.

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where is the plop suspicion coming from ????

TWGma 11-24-2020 10:27 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750192)
I have this big problem of T-Force and FG not evaluating each other seriously since the beginning of the game and I was more than happy to stay on one of the two.

I said it earlier, but re-iterating:
If you want us to seriously evaluate each other, don't expect it on D0.





Now then. The obvious biggest point of contention seems to be me this phase, and I'm more than willing to be voted off to solve some ties.

Raeko and Shadow are town beyond all reason. Do not lynch them ever.

I'm still wary of Haku, and FG really needs to give a good explanation as to why she thought Ulle was a better source of info than FFA because I don't buy that for a second.

Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:27 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750196)
I can see FG/Plop being together here unironically.

it's funny you mention this because I also considered this last night while I was thinking about the game and I was like "Wait a minute, why the fuck would she vote Plop?"

Thoughts on that so I don't feel like I'm insane would be great

TWGma 11-24-2020 10:28 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750197)
Interesting take here.

I never really considered using relationships between other people in the roster as kind of a way of seeing into the game.

That's not really angleshooting, is it? Feels more like an opinion? I think?

Iirc, angleshooting involves in-game mechanics. So, yeah, it falls under opinion.

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:28 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
current detective music:


Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:28 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by TWGma (Post 4750201)
Iirc, angleshooting involves in-game mechanics. So, yeah, it falls under opinion.

That's what I was thinking, thanks for confirming my paranoia.

Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:29 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750202)
current detective music:


I am sad to see that this isn't investigation 2001 from Ace Attorney

But Stein's;Gate is a welcome listen.

Hakulyte 11-24-2020 10:30 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4750200)
it's funny you mention this because I also considered this last night while I was thinking about the game and I was like "Wait a minute, why the fuck would she vote Plop?"

Thoughts on that so I don't feel like I'm insane would be great

Do you mean like a safety vote because she would know Plop doesn't case if they're together ?

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:30 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by FreezinIce (Post 4749548)
reading last few pages im suspicious of sunfan, i feel like he gets super ambivalent about lynching people only when he rolls wolf.

i dont feel like digging up the really old games and combing thru them, its more of a gut read

will remember this

fatfuck42 11-24-2020 10:30 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by DaBackpack (Post 4750202)
current detective music:


Those gates are askin for a hackin.

Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:31 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750205)
Do you mean like a safety vote because she would know Plop doesn't case if they're together ?

Yes. That's what I was thinking, and I believe Freezin' and myself asked her what the hell she was doing

Hakulyte 11-24-2020 10:31 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Hey Plop, FG voted you for a moment. What do you think is going on ?

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:32 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by fatfuck42 (Post 4749553)
Hmm, I see your point. While I still think a wolf would be too self-conscious to make a post like that, I'll keep an eye out to see if her analysis eventually gets applied/incorporated into her reads.

this feels a little bit plastic from plop

fatfuck42 11-24-2020 10:33 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4750209)
Hey Plop, FG voted you for a moment. What do you think is going on ?

She didn't want to vote Ule, and she REALLY didn't want to vote FFA, and since I was the one who brought up and kept the seats warm on the FFA train, she voted me.

Shadow_God_10 11-24-2020 10:34 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
Now part of us needs to ask:

Does FG keep FFA alive as town? Or does she cry over it the next day?

Hakulyte 11-24-2020 10:36 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4750198)
i also don't like haku's wallpost and end of phase at all from last night. it sits pretty badly with me, but i'm probably going to need to just look at some other things for the time being.

My wallpost is just me opening the thread and quoting literally any post where someone says a stance about someone else.

I wanted to count connections between players and then think in terms of who I find suspicious.

It wasn't supposed to be a read list or anything like that.

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:36 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749571)
I think... it worries me because she's making an attempt to say "hey I'm present, look at this" but this says things that are basically common sense and don't really need to be explained.

That's the best way that I can word this

this is... literally what YoshL had been saying for pages before this

this is a weird sheep because you're framing it as your own thoughts, despite it having been clearly stated earlier by YoshL

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:37 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by YoshL (Post 4749575)
I can't actually tell if shadow is speaking for real and mindmelding, or read my post, and tried to fake-generate a mindmeld, because that's some pretty similar wording lmao

lmao gottem

DaBackpack 11-24-2020 10:39 PM

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4749582)
Yeah that's a legit mindmeld. Ulli's post reminded me of how Devonin burned me by using pure mechanics in "solving" the game and was wolfing, so that's where my read into it came from

I know this is wifomy but I think ultimately this is a more towny mindset than not


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