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thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:30 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Blaster (Post 4479411)
There's been 300+ posts since I've last viewed the thread, bring me up to speed pls

sucks to be a wolf, basically, don't bother reading

I'm essentially declaring the game over, I think.

its been done before and this game needs it as it currently is.

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 07:31 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
So basically, winning is a matter of course.

I'm all for easy wins, but not for wasting time

[Twg] Cease and reroll [/twgv]

Wineandbread 09-29-2016 07:33 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Actually I don't think the wolves are out of it yet if they are smart about fake-claiming

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:33 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
there is no way around this, we are 42 pages in, significant reads can be made off of the fact that people did not know that survivors are essentially town members with a slightly different win condition because the game ends when all wolves die

3 town members getting gift roles per phase is too many for wolves to ever stand a chance of winning this game in a realistic fashion

this game needs to be recalibrated, likely making the game not end when wolves are eliminated, and then run again, probably with only 1 gift role per phase or something like that, or make wolves be able to get gifts.

as it stands it is too far into the game to make any of these changes in my opinion, and, since its been done before I feel like its within reasonable ability for me to do so, I'm gonna call this game

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:33 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wineandbread (Post 4479420)
Actually I don't think the wolves are out of it yet if they are smart about fake-claiming

it narrows the pool too much is the thing, I did the math for this

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 07:34 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Cease and reroll

ShadoWolfe 09-29-2016 07:34 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Back.

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:34 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wineandbread (Post 4479420)
Actually I don't think the wolves are out of it yet if they are smart about fake-claiming

instead of being withing 7-8 people, there would be one or two wolves in 4 or 5 people is the thing, and that's too small of a pool. the game would actually end sooner rather than later if they tried this.

Arntonach 09-29-2016 07:35 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
sun fan, I clarified the game with you before you put it up, as well as changed a few things around to keep it fair. But now all of a sudden it's not. 800 posts in. Great. :l

Red Blaster 09-29-2016 07:35 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thesunfan (Post 4479417)
sucks to be a wolf, basically, don't bother reading

I'm essentially declaring the game over, I think.

its been done before and this game needs it as it currently is.

Oh, that's a shame. If a reroll and tweak is deemed necessary we should allow Ant to fix it and maybe run a turbo or something in the meantime?

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:35 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
as a mod I'm ending the game, its not a vote or anything else like that, the game is broken and needs to be fixed, we can stop playing the game for the time being

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:35 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arntonach (Post 4479426)
sun fan, I clarified the game with you before you put it up, as well as changed a few things around to keep it fair. But now all of a sudden it's not. 800 posts in. Great. :l

I feel responsible, I looked at survivor and thought I knew what you meant, so yes, this is my fault.

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 07:36 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Can we know who rolled what for the laughs?

Charu 09-29-2016 07:37 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
gg wp

Charu 09-29-2016 07:37 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm a wolf actually

thesunfan 09-29-2016 07:38 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
looked at the role of survivor, figured that it meant that you can only win if you are alive when the game ends, and that survivors would have to duke it out if the wolves were all killed before the game ended.

There was nothing explicitly saying this, and the role PM of survivor makes more sense now, and combined with the theme of the game being "Survivor" I made a false assumption and this is largely my fault.

The fixes in my above post should help with a rebalance.

Red Blaster 09-29-2016 07:38 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charu (Post 4479432)
I'm a wolf actually

No way? I was leaning shado and that precarious person

Charu 09-29-2016 07:38 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Nah, just joshing ya.

I'm just a measly survivor.

Charu 09-29-2016 07:39 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Or am I?

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 07:40 PM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Look at that fatalism stopping me from lynching Charu every time.


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