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Tokzic 09-29-2016 03:48 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479081)
Keep in mind that the wolf's goal this game is to act like a Survivor, not a town player.

Again, I super disagree. The faster Survivors find the two wolves, the more survivors are alive, the higher probability you will be alive for the win.

If you aren't scumhunting you are doing it wrong.

Tokzic 09-29-2016 03:49 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
And this would be SUCH AN EASY WIN with this COMPLETELY IMBA FORMAT if gift receivers would just fucking out already.

Me and J-rodd claimed, that is 2/3. Can we get our third D1 gift out there so we can make an informed lynch?

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 03:52 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4479099)
Again, I super disagree. The faster Survivors find the two wolves, the more survivors are alive, the higher probability you will be alive for the win.

If you aren't scumhunting you are doing it wrong.

I agree with that and it's my initial idea from the start.

I'm not sure why you responded that to my post lol.

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 03:53 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I like how Shado complains that ToKzic is gone right in the middle of him posting and then fucking leaves rofl

Hey Tokzic, got a reads list?

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 03:53 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4479098)
What's your reasoning for this?
I can't say I agree. The way I see it, a wolf wouldn't have to worry about NK and would therefore be free to act as townie as possible in order to gain trust. That's basically the basis for my vote on tokzic. Still waiting on him to come back, btw, but I'm going to have to finalize a vote by around 4pm server time tomorrow (2pm PST) before heading to work. I hope he returns by then, because I'm not a fan of lynching inactives unless there are no better leads.

I'd expect the wolves to play by the book and pretend to worry about NK to cover themselves.

Tokzic 09-29-2016 03:55 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479101)
I agree with that and it's my initial idea from the start.

I'm not sure why you responded that to my post lol.

Misread your post. Thought you were saying humans should be acting like survivors and not like greens.

ShadoWolfe 09-29-2016 03:56 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4479094)
Not really understanding why you're voting for a guy who came out with a verifiable gift when wolves can't get gifts and all it takes is to check the end of day vote tally with Haku having one less vote than he should have.

Oh, there you are. Unvote. I wanted to gauge your reaction if accused after making your play. From what you're saying, it seems as though you'll be confirmed by morning.

If there's a real voteless who doesn't want to claim, or actor in play, please do not vote on the same wagon as Tokzic.

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 03:57 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I think it's safe to assume that we should follow what Tokzic wants to do as it can be verified tomorrow.

It's by far the best lead atm.

Tokzic 09-29-2016 03:58 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar (Post 4479102)
I like how Shado complains that ToKzic is gone right in the middle of him posting and then fucking leaves rofl

Hey Tokzic, got a reads list?

Not really. Not enough posts from several people.

But my gut thinks there is one red in Haku, you, and ShadowWolf.

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 04:01 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
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Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4479107)
Not really. Not enough posts from several people.

But my gut thinks there is one red in Haku, you, and ShadowWolf.

Interesting.

For what it's worth I think Haku is looking townier then Shado right now.

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 04:05 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I would be slightly more cautious than I am right now as a wolf.

That probably doesn't mean much to you tho.

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 04:06 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479109)
I would be slightly more cautious than I am right now as a wolf.

That probably doesn't mean much to you tho.

Nope, not an ounce

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 04:07 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Just go with your feelings or something. I don't think I want to defend myself for how you should read me.

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 04:09 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
I'm definitely not on best terms with ShadoWolfe with the whole Utilitarism vs playing for yourself ideology.

I actually think there's 0 wolf here, just very varied perspectives on how to approach this game.

ShadoWolfe 09-29-2016 04:13 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479091)
What if I'm curious about what you're curious about.

:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokzic (Post 4479096)
What is with these pairings? Where did you come up with them?



Well, there's two wolves, and I can't see them both implementing the same strategy, so I paired off the players that I couldn't really see as partners.

You and sunfan both went supertown and came up with town-seeming strats that lead to potential martyrdom, and I highly doubt you'd both go that same route as wolfteam, so I'd be willing to grate off a finger if you ended up wolf partners.

I'm null on both DBP (hardly any posts, some content in the few that manifested though) and roundbox (seems like a typical "idgaf" survivor, but again super low postcount so idk). However, roundbox used one of his 12 posts to say he's townreading DBP. I don't think he'd do that if they were both scum. Also, they're currently the two lowest posters, so I don't think they're both scum on the principal that one of em would've stepped it up by now.

j-rodd and Red Blaster was a totally gut pairing just based on similar impressions I've received from them, so I figured I'd throw it in there and see what came back up. They've both posted more than DBP and roundbox, but their actual contributions have been significantly less.

Tokzic 09-29-2016 04:14 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479112)
I'm definitely not on best terms with ShadoWolfe with the whole Utilitarism vs playing for yourself ideology.

The irony of this format is that the only hope the wolves have of winning it is exactly that attitude - of Survivors playing individually and not caring about towntelling because they want to live instead of find the wolves.

But if all the survivors have this attitude, no survivors will win.

If Survivors use all the tools in their disposal here, I think over half will win the game.

Tokzic 09-29-2016 04:15 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe (Post 4479113)
Well, there's two wolves, and I can't see them both implementing the same strategy, so I paired off the players that I couldn't really see as partners.

You and sunfan both went supertown and came up with town-seeming strats that lead to potential martyrdom, and I highly doubt you'd both go that same route as wolfteam, so I'd be willing to grate off a finger if you ended up wolf partners.

I'm null on both DBP (hardly any posts, some content in the few that manifested though) and roundbox (seems like a typical "idgaf" survivor, but again super low postcount so idk). However, roundbox used one of his 12 posts to say he's townreading DBP. I don't think he'd do that if they were both scum. Also, they're currently the two lowest posters, so I don't think they're both scum on the principal that one of em would've stepped it up by now.

j-rodd and Red Blaster was a totally gut pairing just based on similar impressions I've received from them, so I figured I'd throw it in there and see what came back up. They've both posted more than DBP and roundbox, but their actual contributions have been significantly less.

This is actually a way better response than I was expecting.

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 04:18 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
It's so good, it's like a wolf wrote it~

Hakulyte 09-29-2016 04:18 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
just kidding.

MixMasterLar 09-29-2016 04:23 AM

Re: TWG CLVIII: Game Thread - Survivor Valais
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4479112)

I actually think there's 0 wolf here, just very varied perspectives on how to approach this game.

I wouldn't go that far right now

But, the fact this conversation is progressing seriously is nice and pro town so that's good


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