Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

definitely not me, Charu

I was fearkilled by a meanie head I'm pretty sure

you can't handle this sleuthin'

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

we didn't have this message today
folks?
is there a wolf in here?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I mean, I guess they saw I could theory and then decided "get this guy out of here"

By the by, if storn doesn't post again this phase, guess where this game's vote will be?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I think freezin said something to the effect that this game is literally going backwards, like a mirror. So I'm going to assume there wouldn't be a post this phase about that.

Also, we now have a "proper" phase. We're at dsomething (Day Something)

Which is weird because it's saying gold stinger flipped on dsomething.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

hmm, hmm
I still want to reach my hand into the main thread and bonk some heads

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

also, nobody died here
do we want to read into that? might point to no wolves in the three of blind/star/subaru, but still, I don't think we have enough information to really know how the mirror world works

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

...You know what, you're completely right and I didn't even think about that.

No one did die.

And I assume wolves have to kill since town can't no vote.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

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.uoy fo lla etah i wonk tsuj tub ,tib a rof TO dnirg ot gniog m'I

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@FreezinIce

hey don't be mean you've got plenty of good brain solvers in your game
and I'm not dead yet!

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I took the time to read that storn and I'm proud of myself.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I tried saving you, friend
at least you're still in the game, chillin with us

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Yeah, I'm hell-a smooth brained.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@123kappa3

damn it's almost as if by your logic i could just ignore your posts because I don't see it the way you see it but I'm not going to because that's not how the game progresses

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

.deneppah ev'dluoc tahw yas ot drah sti os skrow dlrow rorrim eht woh aedi on evah yllaer eW ?htaed no degnahc evah srewop ebyaM .hguorht enog evah ot tsev/cod a rof laitnetop osla si erehT .rehtie tey deid evah sPK eht fo enon taht ylekil ti dnif i thgin eht ni niaga sllik 3 htiW .KN nac ereh ni ydobon erofereht dna tey daed si flow on taht elbissop stI .sgniht wef a eb dluoc siht kniht I

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Alright, so storn probably isn't a bad dude then if no one died in this game.

What I can say to make myself feel better is I was choosing between a meta read and someone who didn't participate the last phase.

I chose the latter, and I was wrong (probably). Sorry storn.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

.retal taht od og ylbaborp dluohs i .tcaf eht retfa ytlas tib a etiuq dna ,ysub saw i ecnis deneppah tahw fo lla daer t'nevah llits .taht etaicerppa I

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

isn't this just too fucking easy for deduction, though? I mean, I can vouch for myself, but if we see a KP tomorrow, it could be you/Dabackpack and that's a pretty free vote the next day

it can't be that easy if we see a night kill. I don't know what to think, because if I continue going down this pathway, it'd only be worth voting between myself/you/backpack. would sunfan leave such a hole in the game? I know I fucked up when making my trailer park boys setup, but I don't know if sunfan would leave such a hole.
there's a possibility that KPs might be tied to the main thread, specifically the wolf team. if the wolf team is split between the main game and the mirror, would they only have one kill to direct still and only be able to do it in the main game? this'd prevent the awkward "oh people are being night killed in the mirror game now" scenario as each wolf kill is forced to be in the main game.

ugh

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I'm more interested at the fact there were three nk's instead of four like there was last night so what/who got blocked or was storn a night action role too assuming they still couldn't pop an action before getting sent to purgatory

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

???

Bro, only three kills happened last night phase too.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

wrong, it's been 3-3

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I'm fully subscribed to Backpack's notion of the fact that since "Mafia or town has lost" that last phase, that that is a stronger indicator of there having been all town in this game

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@MAIN THREAD I would like you to weigh in on this idea

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

We had that message when this game started and by the looks of it it hasn't appeared to change so there's either still all town, or somehow all three of you were wolf-aligned

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

all four*?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@FreezinIce

Do you feel this after reading what we're thinking right now?

I mean, I'm not oppose of thinking about wolves being able to hold their kill. However, if town can't hold on to a "no vote", I don't think wolves can get the same treatment because I 100% think that would've been the optimal play for town last phase. Giving the wolf the optimal play just seems unfair.

(I know, I know, unfair in a bastard setup, lmao)

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

yeah I don't think a wolf is gonna hit another wolf with a kp unless we've got multiball going. you never nk another member of your wolf team unless it's literally your objective to do so

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@123kappa3

how are we supposed to know what a jester in this setup does? For all we know it could be Town of Salem jester where when lynched they choose 1 person to kill. A jester that would wholesale end the game would be fucking stupid considering how intricate this setup is

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I'm one to tinfoil and bat shit around but I just refuse to let the notion that a jester that ends the game is even possible in this setup, let alone whether or not that's ever existed in any TWG to begin with

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I've not seen any game here on FFRTWG where the game ends once the jester is voted.

So no, that won't happen, I'm like 99% sure that won't happen.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@reuben

Is your neighbor really dead or can you still talk to gold stinger?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Apparently I have died but it hasn't happened yet so I'm still allowed to post and view dead-talk.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I guess log was also lumped into who got transferred into here, lemme go back and see where D0 nk's were cuz istg i saw 4 "this person died" clickables d0

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Wait, wha-...

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

yeah

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

So like... your game is not over then? Can you place votes still?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I am 'dead' but it hasn't happened yet so sure within that context I can vote before I am 'dead dead'

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Is that why you're flipped... this phase apparently?

That's pretty meta

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I skimmed main thread eod last day phase what was the stack like

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Yeah I guess I lumped em all into one lmaoo

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Ben vs Storn

Also backpack and TWGma were calling each other anti-town after TWGma referenced two prior games that happened years ago that featured a serial killer role (that backpack was).

Backpack is now dead.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

willing to bet Charu got some sort of town vigi shot because of the book I threw at them last phase & then flipping green going into night.

DaBackpack seems like a wolf kill just because they were doing really good both d0 and d1 with solving the game both mechanically and from player association.

roundbox I have no idea why

prove me otherwise my reads list still feels pretty fresh.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

the fuck GS IS HERE??

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

WHO MADE THIS GAME

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I was thinking that, but I really hope not. The vigi shot, if there is one, should've been on Ben, more than anything.

Picking me out of the other voters just seems not a great decision due to no-flips being apparently a thing for the entire game seems like.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I was going to see if ben could still talk to him, but apparently this can happen apparently.

Interesting turn of events, to put it lightly.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

no one 'died' this game like I did this night in this game so either:

a.) Wolves abstained their kill
b.) Everyone prior to Charu/DBP/roundbox is not a wolf (could be a 3p, but no one with a kill power) (this includes storn, since they were in this game & active last night phase)

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

A cannot happen

wait

holy shit
did I just crack it?

one second
everyone, I might have solved the setup? maybe?? theory in next post

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I await with abated breath, roundbox.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Can wolves just not choose a target for nightkill and decide to kill no one? Or is it picked randomly if wolves don't choose

Because I haven't played wolf in so long that I legitimately don't know

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

ok, it might not be ~THE SOLVE~, but it sounded good in my head

what if this thread is just voting which people get flipped? what if we're just here to give information to the main game?

Gold Stinger is "alive", but his colour has been revealed. Maybe this is a fake dual setup where the dead get to choose who flips once a day? this would mean the main game would have to work in overdrive to get the wolves since they're essentially playing with very few cardflips if this is true

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Crack theory

This is actually the post-game thread.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Except that it was explicitly stated that everyone currently in this game still has the same roles as the previous game. What's the point of wolves/3p in a setup like that after they go to this game, but have their kill power/night actions still?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

It depends on the game. Some games wolves can absolutely abstain their KP. In some others, they HAVE to choose, no matter what.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

How much would you hedge a bet between option a & option b that I listed earlier

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Specifically in this setup, with 26 players

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I think, just for fairness, your B wins me over than a wolf being able to hold their KP in whatever setup this is.

Like I said, I'm basing this solely on the fact town has to vote someone out.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@ FreezinIce

Bruh... you were ignoring?

Come on, it's not that much harder to pay attention to two threads.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

option A cannot happen, dude
it says in the OP no kill is set to "off"

if a kp doesn't submit, it gets randed

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Funnygurl555

This is what I'm thinkin hardcore. If Goldstinger greenflipped that is almost 100% proof that there were all town-aligned in the initial four. I am a VT, I don't know anything about star's slot, but like I've been saying I'm pretty sure the fact that Blind being a pretty convincing (to me) PR implies that Star would also be a town of some sort.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Wha-

*looks at the OP*

Jesus fucking christ.

Please just tell me to reread the setup, fucking hell.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

aite, cool.

In that case, same hedged bet, sunfan didn't mention at the beginning of this phase that 'Town or mafia has lost and the game is over'.

Would you suggest that either a) it's worded that way because in the timeline it's not the end of the game (or the start) or b) there's a wolf in Charu/DB P/roundbox given the prior assessment that everyone else is town?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I wrote about this earlier, GS, where if option B is true, that seems TOO easy to solve
would you agree that it makes deduction piss-easy if one KP is added to the game? it gives only a handful of suspects, which is kinda unfair to the KP realistically

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

3 town to 1 wolf would not be a "Town or Mafia has lost". The only issue with this that I can see are if there are somehow 2+ wolf 2- town.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

btw what is a KP, I'm guessing kill-pile but

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

kill power.

Any ability from any role that can kill a player.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Kill Power

Like 1KP is just a regular game where wolves can only make 1 kill.

2KP is when wolves can make 2 kills per night. It could also mean there's two anti-town roles that have a kill power that may not be even on the same faction.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

lynch in this thread should absolutely be between Charu/roundbox/DBP given that no-kill is off, and there was no kill outside of the lynch last night for this thread. Everyone (including storn) gets soft cleared as not wolf aligned.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Should say 'Everyone ELSE (including storn)'.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@Xiz

What do you mean "convinced"

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

If you're still able to post after this phase, then I might volunteer myself because I'm simply just a vanilla town.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I'm not gonna directly quote gold because I'm afraid there's gonna be some voodoo magic bullshit that happens if you do (assuming I haven't already cuz I've genuinely forgot)

but I agree with you on lynch order, but with that being said I'm hesitant to follow it until we fully see what's gonna happen with you

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Wait, excuse me gold stinger

What

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

also your what

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

glad my post got attention thanks for reading

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I mean, we can't do shit to you right now, and you're town, but you're not bullshitting, right?

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

I'm 100% bullshitting you but I'm glad you read it

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Okay then.

Jesus, I would've been so confused and baffled if you had such a ability.

That's going beyond super bastard.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

@reuben

Now that's curious. Keep us posted if he can still talk to you if he suddenly can't post here anymore or something.

Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT
 

Hi everybody. I am really confused because there is not another announcement from sun fan and no death, but I am happy, because three of my favorite TWG players just joined this game all at once. Suck it main thread, this is basically the cool kids' club. Haha.