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sff_writer_dan 07-14-2021 09:54 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4763876)
A lot of swaps and changes since start of tournament. Here are the updated predictions (newest people color-coded in green)! Will be posting after each round :)

Still no aperson in D6, you fool!

csoup1414 07-14-2021 10:06 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
I was shocked to be originally in the top 8 algorithm. Even more shocked when you updated it and it moved me to top 6.

I was in D4 for 13 and 13.5, but I was placed in D3 this time. So I guess we will see.

themastergrant 07-14-2021 11:44 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Kinda scary playing against previous D4 players in D3 when I just got here myself from D2. Lucky I got a great score early on this round cause I wasn’t sure I could be competitive.

xXOpkillerXx 07-14-2021 11:47 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
The fact that I'm considered as top 8 by your algorithm shows that there's missing data in D8 lmao

Untimely Friction 07-14-2021 07:08 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
I'm gonna sleeper all over this tourney kekeke

Kawaii025 07-14-2021 07:40 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4763876)
A lot of swaps and changes since start of tournament. Here are the updated predictions (newest people color-coded in green)! Will be posting after each round :)


Top 8 of Division 3:
Viisbyxa
exchro
kiba1000
tmgCryptX
anrai
csoup1414
123kappa3
Kawaii025


That would be amazins. :D

sff_writer_dan 07-14-2021 08:08 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
I mean, are the predictions just "The people who AAA'd round 1 are likely to do well"?

WirryWoo 07-14-2021 08:23 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sff_writer_dan (Post 4763898)
Still no aperson in D6, you fool!

Yo aperson, play more FFR :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by csoup1414 (Post 4763899)
I was shocked to be originally in the top 8 algorithm. Even more shocked when you updated it and it moved me to top 6.

I was in D4 for 13 and 13.5, but I was placed in D3 this time. So I guess we will see.

The update to D3 was mainly caused by the inactivity of two of the projected winners in D3. It moved you up two places :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx (Post 4763906)
The fact that I'm considered as top 8 by your algorithm shows that there's missing data in D8 lmao

So true. Limited data is the biggest flaw in the overall approach and unfortunately this is more frequent during OT times haha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sff_writer_dan (Post 4763938)
I mean, are the predictions just "The people who AAA'd round 1 are likely to do well"?

Nope, predictions are made based on the user's Top 100 scores. Any significant improvement there will bump the players up in the overall rated projections.

Again, these are only predictions. Don't take these predictions as gospel because anything can happen in the OT. rayword42 can skillboost to his doppelganger ULTIMEGA. choof can hurt himself again and get his cast put back on. Brasegali can skillboost to D8. Anything goes.

Myself, my gaming gear is in my apartment and I have to be in NYC with family to run important errands for a good while. I don't expect myself to get Top 8 this tourney even though my scripts are saying otherwise.

aperson 07-14-2021 08:59 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4763939)
Yo aperson, play more FFR :)

The best way to improve at FFR is to play Etterna did your algorithm think about that

rayword45 07-14-2021 09:08 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4763939)
rayword42 can skillboost to his doppelganger ULTIMEGA.

you are a mean person

_DJ Vinyl_ 07-14-2021 09:44 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
My Predictions for Top 3!!!: (Left 1st middle 2nd right 3rd)

D1: Fireo, The_Popo, sff_writer_dan
D2: TopeDogeWOW, HBar, Demonader
D3: Logman6656, _DJ Vinyl_, anrai
D4: Jonlovesddr, emulord, katanaeyegaming
D5: _Fluttershy_, Brasegali, axith
D6: Dark Saga, aperson, spongebobismysenpai
D7: Devilchilly, Cryolien, Josemba
D8: Matthia, AnMaO, Elah

FlynnMac 07-16-2021 02:20 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Decided to see who could get the win based on the highest cumulative total while I was at it, because I tried it out in 13.5 and it was pretty accurate, so this is what I got for round 1 (it gets more accurate I'd say the further in it goes).

Predictions:

Top 8 of Division 1 (Top 4 in no order):
1. Fireo
sff_writer_dan
Telnaior
Zeldagurlfan1
5. diddleysquin
6. The_Popo
7. Frans813
8. SwedishMeatballs


Potential Top 8 of Division 2 (In no order):
1. awesomebox
beamswordsman
chuckman
Deathserpent2
Demonader
HBar
miiklo
NapalmDaDon
popo55
Puzzler64
Rukairi
TopeDogeWOW
x_egeltje_x


Potential Top 8 of Division 3 (In no order):
1. 123kappa3
4key
csoup1414
exchro
Kawaii025
KillerScythe0
Killuala
Logman6656
oOL3G1TxG4M3ROo
reedkmeister
rsr2
ScienceCrafter
SC_coolguy44
sonic10110
TheLegendofPie
themastergrant
tmgCryptX
Toxicity783
_DJ Vinyl_


Potential Top 8 of Division 4 (In no order):
1. Bok-XN
Doughdough
JibsterGamez
JonlovesDDR
stepman5
Twisue
uzzbuzz
Zlyice
_PhoenixFire_


Top 8 of Division 5 (In no order):
1. 3lijah
axith
Defluxit
MarcusHawkins
Phynx
Psycast
Seoulslayer
XJ-9


Top 8 of Division 6 (Top 7 in no order):
1. aperson
choof
MyNameIsNothing
Nikita3006
Novelties
radioamor
remedy1502
8. Snupeh


Top 8 of Division 7:
1. Naheeno
2. CallMeMessyy
3. Thasyka
4. Eryyy
5. mi40
6. BigHayden1
7. _Zenith_
8. Cryolien


Potential Top 8 of Division 8 (In no order):
1. AnMaO
Elah
Eliminate294
Hanatachi
Matthia
SoFast
XtraFestive
XxNewson1234xX
Zoobin4

choof 07-16-2021 08:36 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4763939)
choof can hurt himself again and get his cast put back on.

pls do not jinx me lmao being in a cast was depressing

WirryWoo 07-16-2021 10:10 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson (Post 4763940)
The best way to improve at FFR is to play Etterna did your algorithm think about that

No. That would assume having a reliable mapping to point usernames on FFR to Etterna and translating the languages between Etterna's MSD and FFR's skill rating. Both are nearly impossible to do automatically.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlynnMac (Post 4764013)
Decided to see who could get the win based on the highest cumulative total while I was at it, because I tried it out in 13.5 and it was pretty accurate, so this is what I got for round 1 (it gets more accurate I'd say the further in it goes).

Predictions:

Top 8 of Division 1 (Top 4 in no order):
1. Fireo
sff_writer_dan
Telnaior
Zeldagurlfan1
5. diddleysquin
6. The_Popo
7. Frans813
8. SwedishMeatballs


Potential Top 8 of Division 2 (In no order):
1. awesomebox
beamswordsman
chuckman
Deathserpent2
Demonader
HBar
miiklo
NapalmDaDon
popo55
Puzzler64
Rukairi
TopeDogeWOW
x_egeltje_x


Potential Top 8 of Division 3 (In no order):
1. 123kappa3
4key
csoup1414
exchro
Kawaii025
KillerScythe0
Killuala
Logman6656
oOL3G1TxG4M3ROo
reedkmeister
rsr2
ScienceCrafter
SC_coolguy44
sonic10110
TheLegendofPie
themastergrant
tmgCryptX
Toxicity783
_DJ Vinyl_


Potential Top 8 of Division 4 (In no order):
1. Bok-XN
Doughdough
JibsterGamez
JonlovesDDR
stepman5
Twisue
uzzbuzz
Zlyice
_PhoenixFire_


Top 8 of Division 5 (In no order):
1. 3lijah
axith
Defluxit
MarcusHawkins
Phynx
Psycast
Seoulslayer
XJ-9


Top 8 of Division 6 (Top 7 in no order):
1. aperson
choof
MyNameIsNothing
Nikita3006
Novelties
radioamor
remedy1502
8. Snupeh


Top 8 of Division 7:
1. Naheeno
2. CallMeMessyy
3. Thasyka
4. Eryyy
5. mi40
6. BigHayden1
7. _Zenith_
8. Cryolien


Potential Top 8 of Division 8 (In no order):
1. AnMaO
Elah
Eliminate294
Hanatachi
Matthia
SoFast
XtraFestive
XxNewson1234xX
Zoobin4

Thanks for compiling this list. An interesting idea would be to combine the two ratings together. Something like:

Before Tournament Start: 100% Skill Rating, 0% Tournament Performance
After Round 1: 87.5% Skill Rating, 12.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 2: 75% Skill Rating, 25% Tournament Performance
After Round 3: 62.5% Skill Rating, 37.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 4: 50% Skill Rating, 50% Tournament Performance
After Round 5: 37.5% Skill Rating, 62.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 6: 25% Skill Rating, 75% Tournament Performance
After Round 7: 12.5% Skill Rating, 87.5% Tournament Performance
After Tournament End: 0% Skill Rating, 100% Tournament Performance (winners are known at this point)

It's not hard to standardize all the values to a scale between 0 and 1 in both Skill rating and Tournament Performance metrics and for each case, this would measure the "percentile of how you compare against everyone else in your division", so it also makes sense.

I can generate that list too if there's enough interest.

Moria 07-16-2021 10:42 AM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
idk wtf is going on but keep hitting buttons on those keybaords, ugot this

sff_writer_dan 07-16-2021 01:23 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WirryWoo (Post 4764021)
No. That would assume having a reliable mapping to point usernames on FFR to Etterna and translating the languages between Etterna's MSD and FFR's skill rating. Both are nearly impossible to do automatically.



Thanks for compiling this list. An interesting idea would be to combine the two ratings together. Something like:

Before Tournament Start: 100% Skill Rating, 0% Tournament Performance
After Round 1: 87.5% Skill Rating, 12.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 2: 75% Skill Rating, 25% Tournament Performance
After Round 3: 62.5% Skill Rating, 37.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 4: 50% Skill Rating, 50% Tournament Performance
After Round 5: 37.5% Skill Rating, 62.5% Tournament Performance
After Round 6: 25% Skill Rating, 75% Tournament Performance
After Round 7: 12.5% Skill Rating, 87.5% Tournament Performance
After Tournament End: 0% Skill Rating, 100% Tournament Performance (winners are known at this point)

It's not hard to standardize all the values to a scale between 0 and 1 in both Skill rating and Tournament Performance metrics and for each case, this would measure the "percentile of how you compare against everyone else in your division", so it also makes sense.

I can generate that list too if there's enough interest.


You guys know you can see who is winning by looking at the names on the dashboard right?

mi40 07-16-2021 03:08 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sff_writer_dan (Post 4764028)
You guys know you can see who is winning by looking at the names on the dashboard right?

the thread title is predictions, not current placements

sff_writer_dan 07-16-2021 04:12 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mi40 (Post 4764032)
the thread title is predictions, not current placements

Well yes I know that, thank you.

mi40 07-16-2021 04:27 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sff_writer_dan (Post 4764028)
You guys know you can see who is winning by looking at the names on the dashboard right?

Well yes I know that, thank you.

sff_writer_dan 07-16-2021 04:29 PM

Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mi40 (Post 4764035)
Well yes I know that, thank you.

Well yes I know that, thank you.


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