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You know it's just kind of weird placing something on a higher hierarchical level than "guru". Why did we drop Oni again?

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we're running out of synonyms for difficult that don't sound cheesy
but i do see the point. that title sounds pretty excluding.

tbh i foresee people continue to call Master and Guru FMO and FGO
honestly i probably will

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subtract a vote from no and add it to yes, I too am dumb and didn't see the in conjunction at first. I really wouldn't mind either way but for the sake of nostalgia and all that jazz, plus it seems nobody really likes it anyways so if I'm on the border I might as well say yes.

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Done and bolded that section on the OP lol

Perhaps too early to tell but looks like the shift back is probably happening at this point. Just need an agreeable title and range for 13.

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Imo, I'd love seeing "Brutal" on that scale. It's just a kick-ass term and slides really easily on the tongue.
(and personally, "Cruel" should definitely be on the high-end too)

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i'd love to see something like

For Experts Only
idk.. better than Elite imo

but then again it kinda doesn't fit in line with master/guru (i'd expect expert < master < guru)

but the line of expert/master/guru seem pretty good (maybe it would be 11 - expert, 12 - master, 13 - guru) idk

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^ Sounds more reasonable to have Guru as 13. If you guys want to keep the FFR exclusive "F_O" tags.

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11 - For Experts Only
12 - For Masters Only
13 - For Gurus Only

is what i propose, but i'm sure most people would be opposed to moving FMO/FGO up a step since we're super used to calling songs FMO/FGOs (can u imagine calling OMW an FMO lol)

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I'd rather have the top difficulty be described through words that relate to skill rather than prestige (although we're already doing that to a degree). I would prefer something like "hardest/extreme" over a word like "deities/gods".

This is something I was discussing with nois-or-e when he wanted to change the difficulty system as well.

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I think brutal would be great for level 13. The only other things I can kind of think of are unrivaled, superior, inhuman, and space jesus. Glad to be no help :P
Oh add catastrophic to my list, I actually like that one.

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90+ for 13.

Move Stinger and Slashmaid down.

FGO's should start at 77 as most of the songs were fought to be put in FGO's than FMO's.

I like the F_O titles. People still use them even when they were disposed.
Words:
virtuoso
adept
wizard
professional (pro)

if F_O is obsoleted, then w/e.


EDIT: Or go with ji's idea. I like that, too.

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For Extreme Masochists Only

:twisted:

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what's with the idea behind moving stinger and slashmaid down? they are 90s so they would be FSOs on a new 90+ scale

am i missing something

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they're easier than j'ai and schmoll. leaderboards are very different between the pairs.

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schmoll is a 90 because of 2 tricky parts, everything else in the song is not even 75 level lol
j'ai is 90 because it's hard in many parts

stinger/slashmaid are 90s because they are relentless

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If 90+ is the new 13 territory, I wouldn't want Stinger or Slashmaid in there.

They're both a cut above the rest of the 89s in difficulty imo, but are more appropriately grouped with FGOs.

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Eh... I tried...

1 Beginner
2 Very Easy
3 Easy
4 Medium
5 Standard
6 Difficult
7 Very Difficult
8 Challenging
9 Very Challenging
10 Expert
11 Master
12 Guru
13 Oni

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if we're going by how tricky a file is to AAA then yeah i guess stinger/slashmaid is 89

schmoll being 90 with 2 tricky burst parts is dumb i think tho :confused:

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Stinger is absolutely relentless and is in no way an 89 or lower (I'd say it's as hard as Shrooms, which I once thought was a 90 but is better suited as a 91, so...). (seriously the patterns aren't that friendly and the scoreboard looks the way it does because of a tournament and it's a kickass replayable file unlike the next 3 songs in this post gg Mr. Stepartist)

Schmollbluk suffers from Spitfire syndrome (hehe) and it's really just a case of unfriendly patterns at the most inopportune times (see: grind2).

J'ai isn't even debatable, that's a 90.

Slashmaid has its moments, but even if you think it's an 88 or whatever, +2 difficulty for being stepped by Dossar.

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idk I think 90 fits Stinger and Slashmaid well, especially Slashmaid.