Originally Posted by masterhickle (Post 3393037)

I never said he was a good Vlad. Hell, I think that any Vlad that prioritizes harassing over last hitting before level 5 or 6 isn't the greatest Vlad in the world. Vlads ought to focus on last hitting to rush a Warmog's Armor. That Vlad was stupid and I punished him for it. What made it worse is that he didn't adjust his strategy. At all.

Edit: There have been very few times when I haven't been able to recover from being forced back to heal when I'm in mid. It isn't that difficult to stabilize if you're halfway competent.

I was just calling you out on an extremely generalized statement. Also, a Vlad in mid should be able to kill whoever he's laning against at level 6 or 7 in MOST cases.


You're entertaining me Mina. Please, keep trying to put me down. At least Dragun is decent about what he says.

Originally Posted by x_Dragun_x (Post 3393120)

Yes a warmogs is a decent item to get on vlad, But, what does it give you compared to other items? Yes some raw health and 57 AP when maxed out. But no other survivability. (Survivability as in you being stunned/silenced and them getting free range on you) If you have 1000000 health, it wont matter if you get cc'd long enough against a physical champ with a razor, since you wont have the MR to handle up to it.
Its just like tanks, yes they could get 100000 health, But with 0 mr and 0 armor it wont help you if you get agro on someone, Getting a item with a benefit besides straight health will make you survive much longer, do more damage, and allow you to do better in general.

Like how about this build with vlad, costing about the exact same amount as what you said

Your build with runes/masteries

A more defensive build with runes and masteries

Yes your build has more ability power, and this build barely has any more surviveability, But since all of my items would be based around ability (with the exception of a gangel) The build would have just about as much health, with about 200 ap more, and about 2-4k more survivability

Long story short, if you get a warmogs, you might as well be a tank and get all defensive items, since that 1 item has dropped your max AP by about 100-200 if not more, or dropped your survivability by a considerable amount, and if you decide to bulk up your survivability, you suffer greatly on ap.
Just remember, raw health =/= survivability


*Edit* Oh and spell pen is capped at 49%, so if you get a void the mastery for 15% spell pen, any other spell pen is useless aka sorc boots/abyssal for yourself

Originally Posted by masterhickle (Post 3393282)

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 3393283)

Originally Posted by stargroup100 (Post 3393399)

spoiler alert:

a good build for vlad does not exist in this thread yet

Originally Posted by x_Dragun_x (Post 3393120)

*Edit* Oh and spell pen is capped at 49%, so if you get a void the mastery for 15% spell pen, any other spell pen is useless aka sorc boots/abyssal for yourself

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 3393594)

you have an interesting

...."theory" behind that build

*snicker*

Originally Posted by masterhickle (Post 3394604)

Ok, who took that seriously?

Originally Posted by x_Dragun_x (Post 3394605)

me =( It has everything you need but health!

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 3394895)

acting more retarded doesn't help you look less retarded just sayin