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A'ite, here it is then

Mellonxcollie - Town (BEGINNING OF D1), Null (Leaning wolf) End of D1
indheart - Town
Wayward Vagabond - Null (Leaning Town)
DaBackpack - Town (If a bit hard headed currently)
Precarious - Null (BEGINNING AND MIDDLE OF D1), Wolf (EOD)
Roundbox - Null (No leans, if had to guess, town)
Funnygirl555 - Null (Leaning Wolf DURING D1), Null (Leaning Town CURRENTLY D2)
DarkManticoreX2 - Null (No leans, if had to guess, wolf)
Knee - Null (Town Lean)
Syhto - Town
MML - Null (Leaning weak [and selfish] wolf)
Sunfan - Town
Hakulyte - Null (Leaning Wolf).

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I don't think this is a wolf response

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Kay, and my opinion is I can't read majority at the moment of being clearly town to me except a few.

I just have a bunch of "maybe towns"

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Page 20 is a disaster wtf happened with charu’s role thing.

Can’t bring myself to care enough right now. Going back to sleep 💤

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Good night, hope you do something later!

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Beautiful :Frenchchefkissingtheoksign:

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You’re the reason this game was once called the prickass douche game for assholes bud 😂

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Pardon?

I don't deny there were some games I was actually playing dirty, but that's been ages now. Why are you even bringing this up?

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You don’t think I know I haven’t done enough yet? I literally said I just woke up from basically sleeping a day and a half due to being sick. I’ll get there.

You can take your fucking rude ass snide “hope you do something later” comments and shove them up your bird ass.

You’re an absolute prick to play with sometimes and it usually comes from your scum game.

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From what I’ve seen you haven’t done a fat load of anything in game solving either considering you have no wolfreads so tell me what good you’ve done?

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I can't come up with anything witty for the first post, but I didn't mean to make it as offensive as you're making it, sorry.

I feel like I've done okay. Maybe not before the replacement with knee happened, but I've be spewing thoughts and whatnot.

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All these players in the game that wanted to lynch anti-pearl’s slot but are now okay with nee also make me sick. We had two replacements on the signups list at the start of the game. Pearl was going to be replaced if inactive. Wolves wanted to get an easy lynch and sytho and I veto’d that and called it out.

You want wolves? We should be grilling charu/MML/indy over the “let’s lynch anti-pearl crap that was at the start of the game. Sytho’s dead body points directly at MML.

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Oh, Manti is playing the game. Let me wake up.

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That’s my current theory

Sytho and I stomped on the wolf plan to lynch an inactive and generally disliked player, one of the wolves was tied up in it and felt uncomfortable and decided to kill sytho because killing me n1 is not cool.

The wolf most likely to be tied up in it and feeling uncomfortable would be MML because that was the only player in that group sytho actively still disliked at eod.



I like some of the other posts MML has made though so I am conflicted over this theory.

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I'm like the only Anti-Pearl vote in EoD.

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I cannot in good faith vote Charu/inD or even MML over you atm Manti. That's because I don't have enough content to know if I can trust you.

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Also, I cannot verify "why" Syhto got NK'd.

There's even the scenario where she wasn't the NK and got Vigi'd while town blocked the real NK. (e.g: Charu)

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I believe indheart went over this as did I. In this game, inactive are detrimental. Also, anti pearl must've sent something to the host at twilight because they were still in the game after day start proper.

His past didn't help, and the scenario that was actively happen on d1 was fitting anti pearls problem. So... I was gonna nip it in the bud ASAP. I was an6ways before knee replaced.

The reason why it's detrimental is due to possibility of asking for a role, and then not use and lose it. And just being a slot that can never be confirmed by us unless some crazy mechanical thing happens.

Just seemed like the right move

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Sounds like a bunch of overly verbose nonsense to me.

What have charu/MML/indy done that rank them higher then null. You’ve been ranking me scummy even though you acknowledge I don’t have enough content. Not enough content = null unless you think i’ve been intentionally not providing enough content. Then you can say it’s scummy.

Do you think i’ve been intentionally lowposting?

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I'll note that DBP/FG voted Charu.

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Then they should come out and say as such. But then again, a killing role that can't be verified ever is pretty risky in a no flip game... I'd understand why they would withhold.

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hakulyte

No shit we can’t verify “why” sytho was killed it’s called a theory for a reason.

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See: this

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I am too angry to play twg right now and it’s coming out in my posts.

Goodnight.

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I truly didn't mean to make you upset with my jab. Maybe a quip back, but not sudden aggro.

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Considering self-voting because I don't enjoy making people frustrated and I'd rather quit than deal with that.

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I feel you, but its part of the game, intentional or not.

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Sure so when I look at that post all I see is a poorly constructed narrative where you try to read me wolfy.

You ignore the response I made to MML in post 243 when he asked me why I thought the things I did, and you also ignore the fact that sytho herself acknowledged the mindmeld we had on pearl’s slot post 675.

So when you say we had a manufactured mindmeld I say bullshit you aren’t reading the game with an intent to solve, you’re pushing a narrative.

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I’ve been active in the game for two hours and I already know exactly why you the read you have on me is bad. Shouldn’t that be your job to figure out?

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How do you solve games if it's not by pushing narratives and testing the waters ? I mean, sure you can pull better posts than I do, but that's because content was created by a pile of narratives in the first place.

They're both necessary. You also gain validity in theory due to Syhto being most likely the NK which means she would be town.

At same time, if I ask myself why Syhto died specifically, it could be because of this.

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It's like we're playing hot potato with what happened assuming Syhto was town.

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You're assuming anti-pearl is town based on non existant content.

The no card flip part is great, but at same time, if your end game is with a pile of low activity players, how are you even going to get somewhere ?

Your post is definitely valid. I'm just saying that there's 2 ways to approach this.

Speaking of MML, I'm starting to wonder what's up with the "not responding" part.

I guess your vote makes sense on paper.

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My game would be very different if I had more free time, I'm pretty sure yours would be as well.

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I guess you're null to me now. I have to recognize the effort you did here.

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I think Raeko has 0 post this phase and there's a hidden posting requirement.

Probably something to keep in mind.

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unvote

I guess I'll hard reset.

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this is apparently my main social outlet so let it be known that I stayed up until 9am building a presentation for Friday

time to die

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also haku totally just caved to manti's pressure, upped his read on him to placate him, and diverted attention on to MML

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So Haku, I need you to answer this question, because it’s going to directly feed into whether or not I try to lynch you or not. You ask “How do you solve games if not by pushing narratives” and while you should be pushing narratives you believe to be true, you should also be evaluating your own narratives to see if they make sense. When you made the long post you linked me to, both of the posts I quoted below were in the thread and they directly correlate to each other, so why would you say the first post is useless without explanations when the second post already exists?

To be fair you quoted both posts, but out of order and the second post is explained as “I don’t think Manti actually thinks this”. So when I say there’s a difference between trying to solve a player which is a towny thing to do, and push a narrative to lynch without reevaluating which is a scummy thing to do. Your post leans closer to the second because it doesn’t look like you took the two posts together and went “oh there is reasoning for why Manti thinks those things” maybe that post wasn’t completely useless like i’m Saying it is.

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Still catching up, but people wanting to lynch manti for inactivity lack hindsight of prior games where his activity levels are similar, especially given he said his activity would be low in pretty much every single game. Why are people so scared of Manti??

I'm liking Charu even more now (even with his manti vote, not sure if he's changed it) with his post on "call my post worthless and lynch me plz" sounding like the appeal of a townie who just can't get the radar off of him

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you got this dbp hope you crushed the presentation

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Not scared, more like I know he does this as both alignments type of deal.

Recall that one game where he was a lost wolf and we kind of just CFD on him and it turned out he was wolfin'. Mind you he had a low post count that game too, but I also recall he was kind of letting whatever was happening... well... happen.

I really shouldn't, because it ties with it being an emotion read, but Manti suddenly getting mad when I made that post has me thinking he's probably on Team Town this time. Also because he pretty much went aggro with Haku, so it wasn't just like "Be mad at Charu to have him lay off me", but just actually being irritated type of deal.

...

MML

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Actually, no scratch that, that vote.

MellonxCollie

That's a better vote.

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I mean, I know you're trying to be funny and all but I very, very rarely reach a "mutually beneficial common ground" with my accuser(s) when I am defending myself

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manti's town so
Idk who to kick out of my town circle because its overpopulated

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If she doesn't post, it's very likely she either gets replaced out or modkilled or something.

Technically the only reason why I wouldn't vote her.

If you're voting her to get her attention tho, good.

Your expectations of me are way too high. I do that with like everyone and I usually vote based on a margin of confidence. I voted you in hope to get your attention to see how you would play things out and you did fine. I moved on.

Looks like DBP would have prefered that I tunnel on you when I don't have something good enough to convince anyone of anything. Waste of time.

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He could easily be a wolf pushing a weak town to get credibility.

I'm pretty sure I'm artificially making the game super easy for wolves by not having anything good.

People are too complacent with this game and it's going to cost them.

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nah, he never makes the post where he claims (for himself and for syhto) credit for diverting the lynch off of anti-pearl on d0. The line about how he is sick because of people reading neee town being the same people fine with lynching anti-pearl is manti speaking from the heart. Its townie.

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Hold up you non-reading meatball I actually spoke out against the anti-pearl wagon. I only announced that on d0 would vote anyone under 5 posts. It was Charu and InD that switched it to Pearl. Stop steeping Sytho's read on me and go after the people actually doing the thing you hate.

Don t be a bitch

If you know this is an issue then don't let him push you around. Fucking get aggro with him, call him out on his shit, don't be a bitch

Jesus you do this,every game you fucking see you have a problem and instead of taking steps to correct it you 're just like WELP I DO THE THING THAT'S A BAD SORRY,and then just keep,doing it,for no reason. Fucking stop it. Being better isn't that hard

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I feel bad for defending you too now. My reads must have been really bad this game.

Sorry, I only manipulate people well when I roll wolf because I have a better feel on what to do.

I'm just lost here and it's my fault for not being more here to fully grasp what's going on.

Manti being town is very likely too. I'd trust Sunfan on this.

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I'm leaving in like 20 minutes and I most likely won't come back until the last 10-15min of EoD if I'm lucky and since I wouldn't have been able to catch up I'm going to be effectively useless.

So, you may as well just let me chill in deadchat.

I can't build cases this fast and my only free time is during nightchat when most players are not here.

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For the record, in case I do die while I'm not here;

I never wished for a blue role.

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read sunfan's reads post and have a couple problems with it i'll get into in a bit

haku's stuff overnight was pretty lackluster and i'm still fine with offing him.

don't really feel like killing mellon but i won't fight it either

mml is consistantly being really aggressive at times that feels fake (earlier with the charu thing, and just now again with his post to haku) and his advocating for a roundbox lynch while at the same time saying he wasn't really wolf reading him much reads as a wolf trying to push a lynch but not take too much blame for it after. And the way he used sunfan's thing saying he wasn't going to post over the night felt super wolfy as well, like he had to make excuses for it.

(also the fact that he hasn't really addressed my concerns despite them being obvious is also kinda meh)

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I'll leave my vote on MML this time.

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Eh, I don't think I have you pegged as someone I lynch today after last night. But I understand this post.

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The Syhto lynch is clearly pointing at me.

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and btw charu, i'm not really wolf reading inD, i am just saying that he hasn't really been villagery up till this point.

basically he's not being wolfy or being villagery.

by definition that makes him =rand and therefore more likely to be a villager. but i just don't have strong opinions on his alignment based on his play thus far

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I mean, NK.

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I feel like, given the mindset and emotions, Haku actually was distraught, and I don't think wolf Haku ever gets distraught nowadays.

Meta read mixed with emotion reads, blECH

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syhto didn't get lynched?

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Why?

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I mean it doesn’t always work because sometimes your accuser is scum and sometimes they’re just an obstinate as fuck town.

The work you put in to reach that common ground shows though. And while it may not convince your accuser, it does show towny to the people around you.

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you don't think he could get distraught as a wolf that feels like he's about to get lynched? especially if he feels bad cause he hasn't been playing well/alot?

not rhetorical, actually asking.

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I was campaigning for her lynch during most of the first phase.

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sup manti

hmu with some reads pls

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Hey nee quote me where I voted for Roundbox while saying I wasn't wolf reading him.

Don't quote me saying he's wolfy enough for a d0 vote and pretend that's the same thing.

Your concerns are shit and I'm pretty sure I already addressed them but hey AMA in like 20 minutes and I'll oblige ya

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No, and especially no to the lynch part. From all my time playing with Haku, he takes the lynch without question. He doesn't blow up and he doesn't try to change direction of the lynch if it's on him, town or wolf.

The only time I ever seen him ever want to sway the lynch from him... is when he's actually a role of some sorts.

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yeah at least 2 of your pushes have been villagers (including myself cause duh)

but that doesn't really make sense that you think people are nk'ing people just to push a lynch on you?

idk

seems like a weird mindset

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Why didn't you respond to anything yesterday ?

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I'm refering to this post.

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I feel like you've the read the book on how I play if I ever made one.

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Were you? I don't recall actually, lol. I know some people were growing suspicious of her during the night, but then she died right after that from a night kill.

I should probably get on making some theories regarding that... Call out Syhto being suspect, and then kill her because that'll create a "information-less" night.

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the bold implies that you don't have a strong wolf read on roundbox

'so fuck it i'll stick with RB' doesn't imply confidence or strength in the read.'

you even say 'its as good of a reason as any for d0' again implying it wasn't a strong read.

and yet you actively are advocating for a lynch you don't personally feel strong on at the end of the post.

i would say that qualifies as you ACTIVELY trying to lynch someone you personally don't even find that wolfy.

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I'm not used to get lynched tbh. I usually just choke as a wolf or never die and players don't usually even need to push me.

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I'm gone in 5-6 minutes if anyone have a last question or something.

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wait is eod tonight

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It's like you know they're both town.

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Yes. I forgot you were in this game.

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We can get into that doing postgame.
If you want an answer doing the game let's just say I hate each and every one of you ♡

Neee what did I just fucking say not to do