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Specefically his last post to me feels like the self righteousness a villager feels like when they are being obstinate.
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there were some people trying to save him, but usually when that happens on a wolf team i'd imagine you want that wolf to make an effort to save themself if possible at some point they'd have to realize that was close to not happening, with how late it got before knights came in. and at that point, i'd expect those people to lighten up a little on the defenses of a 0-poster, but that didn't really happen was a game state sort of feeling, contributed to by pearl being the only egregiously low poster after a while |
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This whole community not being on invisible seems like a leak.
I'm getting all these reads that I don't even know if I should be using right now and I feel dirty |
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sry guys i've been meaning to go read eod but have burned a lot of my waking time today
this phase feels quiet, i was kinda tracking for check-ins and it's just been some of the same people who were around for last night's dealyo i like that roundbox had opinions on when charu could have shared info more optimally, i guess, though it's a past issue one misgiving i have about my mellon read is i've seen her do legit nothing when the wagons are unclear at eod as a wolf, so getting on the ground floor with prec would be different |
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:popcorn: for this sun fan post
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Speaking of rip smilefires the mod
You gonna stick around or nah? |
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maybe, idk
pizza recruited me to his zombie game but i really need to spend less time on the internet |
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Gotcha
Well regardless best of luck in everything if I do end up seeing you less than I used to. <3 |
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the bar is super, incredibly unreliable, like extremely so I've had it show my mobile account on a bar 6 hours after I had closed the tab on the phone. Ps this reminds me that Manti needs to be on his other account |
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Wrt game stuff
InD feels a bit lacking in the content department. Also not really sure who he thinks is a wolf which concerns me slightly. -shrug- |
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InD's wolf game is no great shakes so I'm not gonna go looking at him yet (in italics).
But he sure isn't villagery |
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Charu has pointed out that I am rather subdued this phase, and that's correct, I am.
part of it is school and other commitments, to make it very short, I'm at a time in my life where things are actually going really fucking well for once and I somehow, someway, am not fucking anything up yet. I am reading FFR less than I was as a result, and TWG is part of it. I don't think my game is seriously hurt, regardless of whatever counterpoint Lar will invariably make to this post. I think I am thinking about the game a rather healthy amount, and honestly, my biggest fault is that I am a coward (sort of like Syhto said) and change my mind due to overthinking. I feel... good about my position on the game as we stand. Part of it is confidence in certain reads, but part of it is that I feel good, and because I feel good, I feel like I'm playing good. I still don't know who the wolves are, but what I feel like I do know, is a few towns I'm never lynching. I have often struggled to read inD. I am never killing him this game. His posts are too good to be a wolf. I do not mean this as a mark against inD. I think there's probably under 5 people in TWG who I think can [consistently] make the points that he has made about some small things like when wv and haku did the thing earlier. I have rarely spoken about how sometimes, when I get an especially good feeling from someone, when I read their posts, I sometimes hear their voice reading the post in my head. Before you commit me to an asylum, I do think that this only happens when I feel like the post is genuine. Its a terrible method that I don't put any stock into, but I put a lot of stock into it historically and I don't think I've been burned on it before because it happens so rarely. The post of "did I just get WV and Haku town from that?" or something like that was the post I heard in his voice. I could be wrong on him being town but honestly, I don't think I can lynch him without mechanical evidence against him at this point. I think wv isn't likely to do that thing with not reading the op as a wolf. Its... not impossible. But it looks really good. I haven't iso'd him but I wouldn't kill him solely because he appeared to seriously not understand (including bringing it up later which is like a very nice touch if he is a wolf though wolfchat coaching is a thing etc etc) the mechanic of wolf sabotage. I think he's probably town. I'm a dingus and Charu is town. Claim checks out as far as I can tell. Sorry Charu, that one is my bad. DBP is playing town in a way that I have high confidence in my meta read. This is probably the weakest one so far, and still it manages to be really strong. The way he questions people is... well, questionable at times, but it is at the same time, vintage DBP town. His... assertions are very... himself as well to be a little vague about something I think I've noticed. Lastly, and I need to reread her to fully make this read, but I don't think I have seen anything from fg that has made me... afraid of her potentially wolfing this game. Again, I need to read, and I will, to fully assert this read, but based on what I remember, I am not worried about her. I would kill none of these people without mechanical info against them at this time, which is kind of a ludicrous position to take, I know. I think there's a couple things I need to touch on to answer some potential questions: I am not clearing Haku for the earlier mechanics thing. Haku's mind exists on a different temporal plane as I'm sure we all know. I've also made the mistake of... assuming with regards to Hakulyte before and lost a game because of it (albeit it was my own mistake and not anyone elses). I maybe should be. I am not saying that Haku is a wolf. To be honest, aside from maybe Lar, I think he is the towniest person not in my never-kill list. I don't have anything that I L O V E from him yet. I think the answer to his alignment lies within his grouping of neee/manti together even after syhto died, which is an odd line to take, but appears to be a consistent one for Haku. I /think/ Hakulyte is town, I am not locking it in. Idk, Lar is a buttface basically. He could be really town now. I was recently burned by him in more ways that one, and as I said in the postgame of that turbo, getting slowrolled really, really stings, intentional or not. He is... capable of these emotional outbursts as a wolf, which, if I had to pick something to say about that, I would say that it is impressive that he can summon that spring of emotion upon command. I don't really know what he'd be doing as a wolf here, that's my biggest lack of a case against him; I don't really have anything he's done as wolfy, and regardless of all else, I do think I would have that if he was a wolf. Aside from that, I don't know how to proceed. I don't know who is a wolf in the remaining group of raeko, roundbox, manti, neee. I also make no mistakes about the game being that simple. I am almost definitely wrong somewhere. But what I do know is, I feel really, really good about the game right now. I would kill any of those four and... probably be happy as of right now. I think neee has said words. I think I tend to like neee's style, but it honestly isn't even lacking or anything, I just think other people are higher than him, so its faux POE. The other three are more real POE. I know there was some pushback to my roundbox vote earlier, I do think that its still a decent place to look. I would encourage people to tell me where they think I am wrong. You don't even necessarily have to make a compelling case. I know that I can solve this game if I build a wall around the town and make the wolves pay for it. I feel like I am right there. |
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yes I know I contradict myself on my inD read its meant to be a joke about the insane asylum but w/e
I laughed at it OK |
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my confidence in Lar being town has waned since typing that post up but w/e
its just one space down now and its probably not for a good reason |
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I actually like inDheart and WV. I'd lock town Charu at this point and assume he's going to eat a night kill at some point. May revisit in late game if still alive somehow.
I wonder if MML was aware about how sabotage works based on what he was saying. I'd tend to town read him for the wrong reasons. DBP makes me wonder why he got annoyed at me and didn't do well, anything else. Sunfan makes me wonder if he really didn't knew what was going on or if he knew and pretended to not know. Well, me being confused didn't help. Null ish I'm fine with Roundbox so far, I don't see anything odd in his posts. I don't know what to think of FG. I don't really trust my own reads on her too, they're usually wrong. Quote:
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Sunfan probably town too after reading above wall.
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I know you didn't read that whole thing that fast |
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Got nothing to use against him in terms of pushes. I just don't approve of the way he came in this phase, wolfin' or not. He's most likely going to shit talk me for saying this too, as if that's gonna suddenly make me go "oh, maybe I shouldn't." Be a dick, be treated with hostility, big shock, eh? |
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there is also something to be said of kicking when they go low sorry to get political and all (haha) but both do legitimately have their merits I do think you might enjoy the game a little bit more by going high though your leg will get tired if you kick too much |
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Sometimes I post before thinking. Probably something I should avoid in the future.
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what did you like about this one? |
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Okay, just a warning, phase ends tomorrow night at 1AM, right?
I'm not staying up and feeling like shit again. |
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I highly recommend it with 0% sarcasm. |
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Sometimes I do think before posting, but I often just spew whatever is on my mind |
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in b4 Sunfan was wolfing and he's tilted that I town read him here.
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I currently suffer from a bad case of laziness due to work and I just post that instead of telling you how compelling to me it felt when you were talking about inDheart town reading WV/me.
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I get it, it's never fun typing away when most are sleeping, and it's not fun when you can't be in the thick of the action when the going gets tense (EoD). Still though! |
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I'm secretly happy I'm not getting the free town read.
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I'm probably going to bed
guess I'm thinking of Hakulyte two nights in a row now |
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I like to think that I will somehow solve myself one way or another at some point and that I'm not worth worrying about yet, but that probably won't satisfy anyone.
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Haku lock town
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but for reasons I don't think you're as much a wolf anymore |
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Oh yeah, I need to do this for reasons.
Dabackpack |
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to say one last thing; of the four names, just looking at them
raeko feels the most wolfy to my gut so I'll move my crappy charu vote to raeko ok gn |
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DBP, can you describe how this game feels to you ?
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Hi I have slept pretty much entirely since my last post.
It’s 2am and I just woke up. What kinda wacky shit happened |
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I don’t even know what to do right now.
Wake up? Go back to bed? I have work in 6 hours wtf is this. |
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I was frustrated at you because watching a toddler shouting 2+2=5 is frustrating
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I need to solve you. What should I do ?
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This also applies to Manti.
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Is it because I got nulls in there? Is it because it's wordy? Do you want something like a full on town/null (leans)/wolf with no commentary or thoughts? |
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knee, roundbox, sunfan, MML, Charu look pretty good to me atm
I can't read Haku because he is always self-destructive always Indheart is probably a good place to check out, also the voting patterns from last night since the prec wagon was weird Manti is eventually going to start manting and he's shown up this phase so leave him for later |
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Ugh I’m a whole phase behind.
Haku was bothering me as I was dying irl Monday night so let’s see if that’s still a thing |
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verbosity is fine, nulls are fine but at the end of the day you need to say something like "I think xxx is a wolf" skating around those words makes you look like you're testing the waters and not trying to commit to a hard stance that might make you look bad |
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your big posts are noticeable because they have a lot of words but not a lot of strength other players almost certainly have the same behavior, I just haven't noticed anything specific yet |
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I think you insisting on "reading too hard" makes you look good, in the sense that it's not a good defense at all but a wolf would try to actually legitimize themselves and try to provide specific explanation for why the accuser is wrong
I guess the word is "dismissive", you have been dismissive of this kind of criticism whereas a wolf would probably want to sate the suspicion with more attention And your behavior re: the blue claim is believable for me to not want to look at you today |
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What blue claim?
This game has blues? |
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I like long walks on the beach and people who are fun. I like the goddess. Are you the goddess? The goddess is a woman. All women. You are the goddess. If you're interested in a evening of fun and romance, text "CHRIS" to 1-800-CAN-FUCK |
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But I am employing "This person didn't do this either" because that's what I'm noticing. I noticed what I notice, as DPB stated. |
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Going to sleep.
Have fun doing whatever. |
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I've read up to this post.
I'm not responding to anything specific. I thought about making references to neee allegedly pushing me or SunFan's string of good days to prove I at least read the thread, but I probably won't bother right now. |
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It makes you easier to follow as a town and allows us to get a better lock on you and where you are in the game so we are less likely to mislynch you. This is obviously a boon to you as a town player and a great help to the rest of the town because it allows us to know where you stand on various players. Wolves generally want to be more liquid and they don’t like being forced to take stances on things because then they have to defend them later. Dbp is asking you to take stances and you responded with why me and why not these other people? Truth is everyone should be doing it. The more people that do it the sooner/more likely we are to solve the game. Help us take the first step. |
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So pretty much you just want the good ol', town/null(leans)/wolf with very little wording.
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I just want you to commit to opinions |
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wv is a wolf and needs to repent for his non-existent EoD yesteday he didn't just not vote, he unvoted on a potential wagon --- MML that actually makes MML look kind of scummy |
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