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Originally Posted by the sun fan
(Post 4683920)
I won't get too into it, but there's a bunch in the way of this being clearing me. Wolves might not have even known that there was a wolf, for example. If I'm a wolf, I probably am much, much more likely to figure that Cocoa has just expanded their play a little bit (2 reads vs 0 is a very small change) versus is guaranteed to be a lost wolf
I think the world where I am a wolf and am pushing Cocoa unaware that Cocoa is the lost wolf should be pretty plausible from everyone else's perspective
ur probably townreading me outside of that tho :thumb:
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This is another inexperience thing for me: Cocoa's flip indicated she knew who the other wolf/ves were/are, the Mafia wiki I'm using to look up all the terms people use that I don't understand doesn't seem to include 'lost wolf' or 'lost' as a role modifier. Is it usual for the lost wolf to get told who the other wolves were, but the other wolves to not get told? I don't understand the reference sunfan made to 'recruiting' them.
Does the lone wolf get found after a while? Does another wolf have to just -guess- who might be a lone wolf? How can you recruit the lone wolf if you don't know there is a lone wolf?
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Originally Posted by gold stinger
(Post 4683933)
Svaz is pretty hard town right now considering iso.
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I'm generally reading Svaz as town-ish too at the moment. There's still not a ton of data and we did spend a ton of the day just rehashing how Antori is not helping us but nothing's jumped out at me as overly suspicious.
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Originally Posted by the sun fan
(Post 4683934)
I just kinda feel like the towns are posting a lot
and wolves aren't
I'm worried that's too lazy but its kinda also where I'm at
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I think we need to do comparative postcounts towards the end of our first 24 in d1 here because the list of postcounts to me, is completely polluted by the sheer volume of contentless shitposts that happened in d0, and I think it's absolutely possible that at least one or two wolves saw d0 as a chance to crank up the post count so they could play more UTR in later phases without it jumping out at us.
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Originally Posted by gold stinger
(Post 4683936)
Thoughts on Antori / FG being w/w? FG vote on dragonmega was obviously for self-preservation when you look at the votecount & EoD.
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I had believed Antori as being 3p though as it gets raised below I'm not sure -why- I believed it other than he said it. If he's an actual wolf, I could buy an argument that fg is a wolf with him, but if he's 3p I don't think fg is a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555
(Post 4683956)
this may be controversial but what if we kept him and used him as a vig like someone suggested?
i think he's being honest with us based on his reasons for nk'ing raeko (as in, he didn't try to pick a more palatable one)
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This is definitely part of the reason why I think if he's a wolf you could also be a wolf. Previously your read list gave reads for 14 people that weren't null, your only wolf reads were gs, and daikyi, and you put a vote onto daikyi for having suspicion of Haku (which I think others had d0 but which has mostly gone away)
but the only people I saw express a wolf read of daikyi d0 were you and...antori...so when we lynch him today, if he's a wolf, you're my next major wolf lean. If he's -not- a wolf though, I can definitely recast your posting about this in another light.
The illogic of Antori's story makes me doubt anybody who takes any part of Antori's story at face value.
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Originally Posted by gold stinger
(Post 4683965)
I don't recall someone else suggesting using them as town vig but if someone did you're wolf lean as well buddy.
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Originally Posted by Funnygurl555
(Post 4683975)
the best reason is he /could/ be a town vig o-o c'mon dude. yeah i know mechanically we shouldn't do this but i was just wondering
pros: town potentially gets an extra kill
wolves potentially are afraid of antori and would want to kill him in the night
we can lynch an actual wolf suspicion this phase
cons: requires trusting a 3p when they could do fuck all
if antori does his own shit he's basically a nerf'd serial killer
trust is the biggest issue here and is why mechanically we shouldn't do this, but chaos :P
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Chaos, generally I feel like as bad for town when there's wolves and 3p so huzzah chaos is also sketchy. After the game show, and the story of the night action, there's no trust for Antori.
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Originally Posted by Hakulyte
(Post 4683981)
I feel like my town read on Svaz was wrong too now.
rip
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Could you explain more why? I still feel she's at least on the town side of null.
