PS3 is dead (IMO)

[ducky285]

I'd like to add something remotely amusing

They're offering a new class at MIT this January

http://cag.csail.mit.edu/ps3/

[Squeek]

I'd like to add something, so thanks for bumping it.

http://www.itrackr.com/home.aspx

This is a website where they show what stores have certain items in stock the minute they go on the shelves. Fortunately, they've decided to add some code showing how easy or difficult it is to get these items.

The three top-selling items of late 2006 were: Tickle Me Elmo TMX, Sony PLAYSTATION 3, and Wii. Let's see how they're doing!

Tickle Me Elmo TMX: National Availability: 3%
Sony PLAYSTATION 3: National Availability: 75%
Wii: National Availability: 2%

What do these numbers mean? Well, let's take a look at what they mean. And let's ignore Tickle Me Elmo from now on, because it's hard to find numbers about that.

Sony announced today that it met its goal of shipping one million units out by the end of the year.

Before I continue, let me remind you that they initially said they would sell four million by the end of the year. And now they've met their goal by shipping one million. Because we all know four million sold equals one million shipped.

Now, Sony says they shipped one million consoles. Nintendo said awhile ago that they've sold 3.19 million units. Since then, the number has come dangerously close to 4 million.

We're two months into this race now and the demand clearly shows a change in interest in the public. The PLAYSTATION 3 is 75% available. That means that three out of four retail locations have the item in stock. Further proof of that exists on the Internet by various tracking services of both online and brick-and-mortar retail stores.

The Wii is 2% available. That means that 49/50 stores you visit will not have one in stock when you go.

Now, is this Nintendo's fault for not making enough? Clearly, it isn't. They've shipped over four million units in two months, and every one that has hit a retail store has sold.

What does this mean? I won't belittle you. I'll let you figure it out for yourself.

Ah, what the heck. I've been dying to say it the entire time.

NOBODY WANTS THE PLAYSTATION 3

Lower the price, remove the pointless format pusher, whatever it takes. OBVIOUSLY Sony has been doing something wrong with this console. Once eBay prices went below retail price, nobody wanted to scalp them anymore. Units are being returned to stores. GameStop and EBGames are handwriting signs to post on doors to try to move units as instructed by their corporate official office. Pyramids of units are sitting on the sales floors of various retail stores.

You cannot tell me people want this. Yes, I'd get one. If it were $200. Will it ever drop down to that price? No. They're already taking a $200 loss on each unit sold. They're not going to make price cuts until they can cut production costs. Microsoft has been in the race for 14 months and the official price has never dropped, and they DON'T use extremely complicated hardware. They're just now breaking even with sales, so they STILL WON'T LOWER THE PRICE.

Edit: semi-official numbers put the Wii at 4 million sold as of this post.

[nforcer06164]

Squeek, I think Sony announced long before Christmas that their goal was to get 1 million "in the pipeline" by the end of the year. It was Nintendo that touted a goal of 4 million sold. Which, according to the sales figures, they seem to have made. We'll know once NPD provides the official numbers.

[tsugomaru]

Everyone's meeting their goals then. =]

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

Apparently the source of the original quote failed to mention one million as being a U.S. number only. That part was in the original projection. +1 to Sony. That brings them to negative far-too-much-to-count.

Then ignore that line in my original post, because the rest of it is the meat of the argument.

It's funny, because the news of this spawned a thread with 200 replies on Joystiq and every so often, you'd see a sony fanboy go "thats shopped duh" because they couldn't believe people didn't want a PS3.

The facts are right there. If you want more, then here you go:

http://www.refreshthing.com/wii/

http://www.refreshthing.com/ps3/

If you're such a Sony fan that you have to have this console, then there you go. Online distributors have many in stock for you to purchase. There are no shortages. Wii has shortages. The reasons for the shortages are different though. Sony's supply exceeded its demand. Nintendo pumps out 2 million a month and they all sell out.

[MixMasterLar]

Wow



The numbers speak! They seem to say......

NOBODY WANTS A PLAYSTATION 3! EBGAMES IS DROWNING!

[tsugomaru]

Chromer and Co. : 0
FFR : 1

~Tsugomaru

[GamerShadow]

PS3 is going to suffocate Sony, and kill them. It's a shame, because that's where the best FF games are. (They do have some GBA/DS games, but the best ones are for PS1, PS2.)

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by tsugomaru

Chromer and Co. : 0
FFR : 1

~Tsugomaru

Harsh....

Originally Posted by GamerShadow

PS3 is going to suffocate Sony, and kill them. It's a shame, because that's where the best FF games are. (They do have some GBA/DS games, but the best ones are for PS1, PS2.)

Like Afrobean already stated, I doubt that the PS, only one of Sony's products, is the only way they make bread.

[MixMasterLar]

Well, This is my final bump....

[Squeek]

This isn't a battle with Chromer. I'm just putting the facts on the table.

If you want to keep claiming that it'll "win", you need to prove to me why. Because as it is, the numbers clearly show that it has very little chance of doing it.

But then again, I'll wait until next year to pass judgement on it. There's no way I could call a two-month old system that's supposed to be on the market for ten years "dead".

[tsugomaru]

Grr... I shouldn't have posted. MixMasterLar has just extended it into a serious insult. >=[

~Tsugomaru

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Squeek

This isn't a battle with Chromer. I'm just putting the facts on the table.

If you want to keep claiming that it'll "win", you need to prove to me why. Because as it is, the numbers clearly show that it has very little chance of doing it.

But then again, I'll wait until next year to pass judgement on it. There's no way I could call a two-month old system that's supposed to be on the market for ten years "dead".

Sorry, I ment (in a playing way) If Chromer, or anybody, wants to say something then do it now.

I can see after re-reading my post how someing could take offense to that. Im sorry for the mis-understanding

[FRANKKK]

yeah ps3 is actually pathetic
i dont even play mine anymore
my 360 blows it away

[slipstrike0159]

If you arent going to play it anymore than you can just send it over my way. Its all a matter of opinion and no one is going to sway another in any case so you might as well keep your thoughts to yourself from now on considering this thread is now going nowhere.

[Shashakiro]

Originally Posted by GamerShadow

PS3 is going to suffocate Sony, and kill them. It's a shame, because that's where the best FF games are. (They do have some GBA/DS games, but the best ones are for PS1, PS2.)

1. Sony does other things, too.
2. Sony doesn't make FF games. If the PS3 died, Square would just port FF to somewhere else.

[cC@Zz]

I think the PS3 is going to fail but I don't think it will kill Sony. People who think so must think the only thing Sony does is Playstation. There will be some good games coming out for PS3 but I don't think it will be enough. Sales are going to be too poor to lower the price if things keep going as is. I just don't see too much hope for the PS3.

[jamuko]

Heh, Woot.com was selling 80 PS3s on Dec. 22. The product description was amazing.

Sony PlayStation 3 (20GB)
by Wootbot t
Woot

So, hey, check it out: there’s this awesome new gaming system that we just can’t stop playing. Too bad it’s so hard to find in stores – we guess they just didn’t make enough of them. It’s called the Nintendo Wii, and holy mother of Zelda, is it ever a blast. If the Wii is cool with polygamy, we might ask it to marry us.

The controller – so easy! No more intricate push-this-twice, pull-that-three-times trickery, just easy waves of the hand. The console – so cute! It actually makes our gaming room look better, unlike the bulky, ugly consoles we could mention. How does Nintendo keep the price so low on that thing, anyway? And the games, good Lord, the games! Not to mention those adorable avatars. We’ve already created virtual versions of the entire staff, so we can beat each other virtually-bloody instead of actually-bloody, like we usually do. The only problem is that none of the nose options are as big as Jason’s actual nose. But that’s a minor quibble.

In fact, we love the Wii so much, we want to give a Wii to everybody on our payroll. To fund this Wii-for-the-People program, we're selling this Sony PlayStation 3. The SIXAXIS wireless controller is basically the same complicated gazillion-button-style controller you know from past PS models, but at least you won’t be fighting Grandma for gaming time. Along with the usual roster of ho-hum games, the PS3 can play CDs, DVDs, and Blu-Ray discs, and the 20GB hard drive can store music, videos, and music videos. It’s certainly, er, rather full-figured, for those of you who want a lot of heft for your money. And its HDMI capabilities give you polygons and frames-per-second out the wazoo, if you prefer that stuff to having fun.

Best of all, for every PS3 you buy, we can buy Wiis for two of our employees. So when you get frustrated by those intricate combo-button moves, or bored by the underwhelming game offerings for the PS3, keep the spirit of the season in mind. Remember all those happy Woot staffers whose lives have been changed by their super-fun Nintendo Wiis, paid for by you. Heartwarming, isn’t it?

I love Woot.

[MixMasterLar]

Now that was harsh


Really, though, the thread is OVER and should stay that way. Maybe in a year we'll come back and talk about how wrong we were, but for now please lock this.

[EI_killertyper]

just one thing to add...many people including myself are at a wait. Halo 3 with a TBA 2007 release date. a lot of people are waiting to hear the word on whether or not its good. its just the game seemed to put x-box on the map and im sure others are waiting to see if it still puts ps to shame as far as FPS go. if not and IF ps3 gets a good game release say the next 6 months...they're over. oh and as far a Square, they will drop ps in a heartbeat. there is no contract to bind them and by the looks of sales it would seem they would port wii if anywhere.

crap im on the wrong account :'(