TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff - Page 3

**Hakulyte** · 03-11-2016, 02:50 AM

I consider that I have nothing else to add and that you're free to interpret this however you like.

**Hakulyte** · 03-11-2016, 02:56 AM

btw, I don't want to discuss about my own ban length because it feels illogical to me to do so myself.

I also expected something else from rzr. I hope you calm down and actually try to explain things in details. What you posted so far is not particularly helpful.

I'm not here to blame you and put you down, I'm just trying to make this game better.

I clearly used the worse possible method to do so.

So, if anyone have questions, feel free to ask.

**Gradiant** · 03-11-2016, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte

This alone is the reason why I'm happy this thread exists. I'm pretty sure it's not the first time this situation happen. It just never really got to light until now. If you guys want to have fun games, this has to be enforced to a decent level.

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DaBackpack · 03-11-2016, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gradiant

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Potentially ruining a game is not how you address these problems

**AragakiAyase** · 03-11-2016, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Potentially ruining a game is not how you address these problems

this isn't potential

**Hakulyte** · 03-11-2016, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Potentially ruining a game is not how you address these problems

Can you explain post #23 ?

ps: You're right. I'm not even questioning that. I'm not trying to prove that what I did is right, I'm trying to figure out in what shade of wrong I am.

**Red Blaster** · 03-11-2016, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by choof

okay i'm fine with a perma-ban for this

Agreed.

**Red Blaster** · 03-11-2016, 03:33 AM

Also why are you talking about giving Haku a 3 month ban on his first infraction when I only ever got a 2 game ban? I think YoshL is taking this a little too personally. It's not even like he used the info he got to influence the game considering Xiz, who had no OGI, killed him but whatever..just my two cents.

**Hakulyte** · 03-11-2016, 04:02 AM

The problem is that if you get information that you shouldn't have, it makes the entire game become a new world where things that shouldn't happen can potentially happen.

It's like creating a new world with slightly different rules.

Just creating this new world automatically invalidate the entire game.

It's not even important what strategy was used or why it happened in a certain way.

What needs attention is what to do about the fact that it happened.

Cheating happened.

It contains:

- OoT/OGI
- Teaming up with someone on skype
- Making other players slip to give information

Like, I don't know what you did for your 2 games ban, but I'd be surprised if it had this many elements at same time.

I think the only reason why they hesitated with the ban itself is because I actually reported it and that I'm new in this environment.

If I was a TWG Veteran, I'd probably get permabanned no questions asked.

How I behaved with YoshL in general was also awful and did nothing to help the situation.

There's actually legit reasons to question what to do with me.

**XelNya** · 03-11-2016, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte

There's actually legit reasons to question what to do with me.

Take you out back and hit you

Wait you'd enjoy that

**Hakulyte** · 03-11-2016, 04:47 AM

I don't think this is the best thread for shitposting.

btw, if you really want my opinion, I suggest permaban for both of us. I feel like this should make everyone happy.

Also, you guys should check out the other parts in this thread. It's not only about me and rzr.

**SKG_Scintill** · 03-11-2016, 05:32 AM

rzr

am I doing it right?

**SKG_Scintill** · 03-11-2016, 05:33 AM

#lynchIRL

**YoshL** · 03-11-2016, 06:37 AM

ban length seems ok, if not ok witg extending. both parties still trying to either justify cheating, or not showing legit any remorse/outright is being a cunt lol (only pretty much complaining about being caught)

sunfan asked for logs from rzr earlier regarding attempts to stop haku from talking to him. to my knowledge he has yet to provide.

**Makilaz** · 03-11-2016, 07:18 AM

I don't think either person should get perma'd. A game ban for a number of games, yes, but I don't think perma-ban worthy offenses happened here. If either player had a history of doing malicious things of this nature, then this would be a very different situation.

**YoshL** · 03-11-2016, 07:25 AM

also @Xelnya, there had been a rules page rework actually almost done.

so @Hakulyte, you can claim that your actions "helped bring the issue to mod's light" but that's A) not a valid reason for cheating and B) not even true and C) still not a valid reason to cheat

**j-rodd123** · 03-11-2016, 08:17 AM

lol @ haku's reaction to me claiming cop knowing now he had that convo

**danceflashrevo** · 03-11-2016, 08:33 AM

lmao reading the logs
rzr: I know something I shouldn't
Haku: same lmao
rzr: i know a maf, wbu?
haku: i know what the medic did~ (as the medic)

Given the logs, I think rzr's the guiltier party. 5 months for rzr, 3 months for haku. their histories have been generally clean, no? if this happens again, then perma

**YoshL** · 03-11-2016, 08:38 AM

basically in my mind, the end of year could probably have been shortened down, yeah.

again however, given the reactions of both rzr and haku, and continued reactions and conversations with people after this has already been brought to light, I don't think i support shortening the bans at all.

**AragakiAyase** · 03-11-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by YoshL

basically in my mind, the end of year could probably have been shortened down, yeah.

again however, given the reactions of both rzr and haku, and continued reactions and conversations with people after this has already been brought to light, I don't think i support shortening the bans at all.

this

confession showed remorse I think

current reactions show less remorse

03-11-2016, 02:50 AM	#41
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,518	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff I consider that I have nothing else to add and that you're free to interpret this however you like.

03-11-2016, 02:56 AM	#42
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,518	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff btw, I don't want to discuss about my own ban length because it feels illogical to me to do so myself. I also expected something else from rzr. I hope you calm down and actually try to explain things in details. What you posted so far is not particularly helpful. I'm not here to blame you and put you down, I'm just trying to make this game better. I clearly used the worse possible method to do so. So, if anyone have questions, feel free to ask.

03-11-2016, 04:02 AM	#49
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,518	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff The problem is that if you get information that you shouldn't have, it makes the entire game become a new world where things that shouldn't happen can potentially happen. It's like creating a new world with slightly different rules. Just creating this new world automatically invalidate the entire game. It's not even important what strategy was used or why it happened in a certain way. What needs attention is what to do about the fact that it happened. Cheating happened. It contains: - OoT/OGI - Teaming up with someone on skype - Making other players slip to give information Like, I don't know what you did for your 2 games ban, but I'd be surprised if it had this many elements at same time. I think the only reason why they hesitated with the ban itself is because I actually reported it and that I'm new in this environment. If I was a TWG Veteran, I'd probably get permabanned no questions asked. How I behaved with YoshL in general was also awful and did nothing to help the situation. There's actually legit reasons to question what to do with me.

03-11-2016, 04:47 AM	#51
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,518	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff I don't think this is the best thread for shitposting. btw, if you really want my opinion, I suggest permaban for both of us. I feel like this should make everyone happy. Also, you guys should check out the other parts in this thread. It's not only about me and rzr. Last edited by Hakulyte; 03-11-2016 at 05:04 AM..

03-11-2016, 07:18 AM	#55
Makilaz TWG Princess Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,094	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff I don't think either person should get perma'd. A game ban for a number of games, yes, but I don't think perma-ban worthy offenses happened here. If either player had a history of doing malicious things of this nature, then this would be a very different situation. __________________

03-11-2016, 08:33 AM	#58
danceflashrevo scumfan is scared of aa Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 488	Re: TWG CXLIX Infractions and general OOTC stuff lmao reading the logs rzr: I know something I shouldn't Haku: same lmao rzr: i know a maf, wbu? haku: i know what the medic did~ (as the medic) Given the logs, I think rzr's the guiltier party. 5 months for rzr, 3 months for haku. their histories have been generally clean, no? if this happens again, then perma __________________ Why are you here?

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