Old 05-11-2019, 08:37 AM   #21
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Lol an abortion isn't murder. That's why our age starts when we are born...not 9 months before we are born. It is "living" but not alive.
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Old 05-11-2019, 10:19 AM   #22
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Lol an abortion isn't murder. That's why our age starts when we are born...not 9 months before we are born. It is "living" but not alive.
You’re wrong, but I agree with this law being extreme.

My thing is, how can the state prove that a person traveled to another state for an abortion? How does the state even know that someone became pregnant?
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I'm far from wrong lol. You are literally killing something that isn't born. If someone is raped and doesn't want the baby which is completely understandable they shouldn't be charged with shit or forced to keep the baby. This is wrong on so many levels.
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My thing is, how can the state prove that a person traveled to another state for an abortion? How does the state even know that someone became pregnant?
You don't think a state full of people who elected a government that would pass this law isn't also full of people who'd narc about it?

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I'm far from wrong lol. You are literally killing something that isn't born. If someone is raped and doesn't want the baby which is completely understandable they shouldn't be charged with shit or forced to keep the baby. This is wrong on so many levels.
I think the issue was you claiming that an unborn fetus isn't alive when it clearly obviously is alive.

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You don't think a state full of people who elected a government that would pass this law isn't also full of people who'd narc about it?
Yeah but how would they know as in what measures are taken to make sure the law is fully enforced?
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So basically cutting down trees/killing plants and killing animals for food is murder too? But those are alright???
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So basically cutting down trees/killing plants and killing animals for food is murder too? But those are alright???
You're arguing against the wrong people here. Correcting you that an unborn fetus is, indeed alive, doesn't mean we think it is murder to get an abortion.
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Lol an abortion isn't murder. That's why our age starts when we are born...not 9 months before we are born. It is "living" but not alive.
I get what you meant I think. Yes a fetus is "living" while it is attached to a woman's body but it's not developed enough to be it's own living thing that can survive life on it's own.

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So basically cutting down trees/killing plants and killing animals for food is murder too? But those are alright???
I think this is actually a pretty interesting point. Anyone claiming to be "pro-life" better be a vegan if they don't want to be considered a hypocrite by me
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So basically cutting down trees/killing plants and killing animals for food is murder too? But those are alright???
Are you a vegan?

And people will argue that the human existence is higher on the hierarchy of living organisms.
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hoo boy this bouta become critical thinking thread rq can we just go back to saying fuck Georgia
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fuck that (though it not being in CT is making me fine with being snippy)

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it seems like the label "alive" is ill-equipped to deal with this kind of discussion

unborn fetuses are "alive" in the sense that blood cells and tissue are "alive". When we say a PERSON is "alive" we are referring to a different definition of "alive" -- this is linguistic confusion. A better fighting ground is about "personhood"

The huge problem with the bill is that the fetus is granted full legal protection with "personhood" after only 6 weeks. Personhood is a philosophical/psychological label more than a scientific one so the actual definition isn't precise. But most of us can agree that 6 weeks is way too early.

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it seems like the label "alive" is ill-equipped to deal with this kind of discussion

unborn fetuses are "alive" in the sense that blood cells and tissue are "alive". When we say a PERSON is "alive" we are referring to a different definition of "alive" -- this is linguistic confusion. A better fighting ground is about "personhood"

The huge problem with the bill is that the fetus is granted full legal protection with "personhood" after only 6 weeks. Personhood is a philosophical/psychological label more than a scientific one so the actual definition isn't precise. But most of us can agree that 6 weeks is way too early.

fuck georgia
til the abortion debate is all about semantics
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The huge problem with the bill is that the fetus is granted full legal protection with "personhood" after only 6 weeks. Personhood is a philosophical/psychological label more than a scientific one so the actual definition isn't precise. But most of us can agree that 6 weeks is way too early.
not to even mention many women don't even know they are pregnant at 6 weeks. missing a single period can be common for some women. I'd assume most people don't find out until AT LEAST 3-4 weeks if not later.
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til the abortion debate is all about semantics
it's not, it's rooted in religious bigotry and a desire for control over women

the conservatives just are exploiting linguistic confusion to rationalize their inane beliefs
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it's not, it's rooted in religious bigotry and a desire for control over women

the conservatives just are exploiting linguistic confusion to rationalize their inane beliefs
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The huge problem with the bill is that the fetus is granted full legal protection with "personhood" after only 6 weeks. Personhood is a philosophical/psychological label more than a scientific one so the actual definition isn't precise. But most of us can agree that 6 weeks is way too early.
What the bill doesn't prevent:
- Miscarriages
- Vassholes (fourth degree tears, yuck!)
- Other severe damage. I'd suggest not looking up pictures of uterine prolapse if you don't want to vomit.
- Cesarean sections. The thought of a C-section makes me want to throw up.
- Death (happens a surprising number of times in childbirth)
- Unsafe abortion ("back-alley" abortions)
- Financial stress
- Multiple pregnancies, which have a higher rate of fetal death
- Fetal abnormalities. Anencephaly is lethal for the fetus and is just one of many.

So where's the plan to make sure women get the proper prenatal care if they are required to go through a full pregnancy? And where does this bill help the fetus again?
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I think this is actually a pretty interesting point. Anyone claiming to be "pro-life" better be a vegan if they don't want to be considered a hypocrite by me
You don't even need to go remotely that far to find hypocrites in the pro-life movement. How about we even grant that they refer only to human life. How many of them are pro-life of poor people, or immigrants, or children in the foster care system or the homeless?
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