Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class

**dore** · 10-9-2009, 02:08 PM

Like chalk on a blackboard,
We write our names on the trees:
History remembers?

**dore** · 10-9-2009, 02:09 PM

The only goddamn
Mother****ing bull**** is
We're superior.

LinkTheHoT · 10-9-2009, 06:01 PM

Wait lol, the first on isn't a haiku (6 7 6?)

**dore** · 10-9-2009, 11:20 PM

haikus don't have to be 5/7/5 unless you're in middle school; besides, you'd naturally de-emphasize "on a" into one syllable and "history" into two so natural speaking patterns make it 5ish/7/5ish

**devonin** · 10-10-2009, 07:24 AM

Quote:

haikus don't have to be 5/7/5 unless you're in middle school

If, by middle school you mean "writing actual haiku"

That's like saying "Iambic Pentameter doesn't have to have 5 beats" If it didn't have five beats, it wouldn't be pentameter.

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 08:07 AM

Real haikus are not equivalent to 5/7/5 in English syllables so I don't see why it matters. I mean generally English haiku is shorter than 5/7/5 (like 3/5/3 or 4/6/4) but I decided to go longer. If I were to write a traditional Japanese haiku, then I'd learn Japanese, because you can't do it in English. But I'm writing free-form English haikus which don't have the same strict standards (just suggestions).

if I had titled it "Two Short Poems" instead of "Two Haikus" then anybody who read them would've said "oh look haikus" anyway

bluguerrilla · 10-10-2009, 08:09 AM

bracket one bracket
bracket eleven bracket
bracket two bracket

DERP!

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 08:12 AM

since I'm not a cool kid and don't have access to Maple in my bed

bluguerrilla · 10-10-2009, 08:20 AM

Maple sucks your ass
Mathematica or bust
You freaking nublet

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 08:23 AM

I only need two
more math classes to get my
minor, so suck it.

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 08:24 AM

Maple is free and
available in our school's
computer labs, k?

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 08:25 AM

I use my
TI-89
for most math.

FictionJunction · 10-10-2009, 11:57 AM

but, haikus don't work in any romance or germanic language. =|

MrRubix · 10-10-2009, 12:15 PM

To dore

Haiku: One format
Five seven five is correct
Baka na hito

MrRubix · 10-10-2009, 12:17 PM

Japanese haikus aren't necessarily "syllabic" (but generally are) because certain vowels and consonants (any vowel or "n" for instance) are considered their own sounds (listen to any freaking Japanese song). You'll notice in music how certain sounds are broken apart into their "on"s all over the place.

If you're making a haiku in English, 5-7-5 is the correct format and there's really no argument otherwise, lol.

PS coming from someone who actually knows Japanese DOMINATED

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUeh71p3yJo

The VERY first line of this song: "Konya mo mata hakanai hoshi zora"
You'll notice "konya" sounds like "ko + n + ya" which in Japanese is considered three "on"s or three "syllables" in English equivalent. In regular speech though, you'd hear it spoken as "kon + ya," generally speaking, but it's still technically three separate sounds.

**GG_Guru** · 10-10-2009, 12:24 PM

Rubix you're like half japanese.

MrRubix · 10-10-2009, 12:25 PM

More like 100% pure cracker

**GG_Guru** · 10-10-2009, 12:26 PM

More like crackanese.

**Ghakimx** · 10-10-2009, 03:23 PM

Haikus are harder in Japanese since each consonant is always followed by a vowel. English is easier, since of course most words don't rhyme or are pronounced differently.

Here's a haiku I made in 20 seconds flat:

Travel to Japan
Pick up bilingualism
It shall be useful

Yeah, I didn't know you were into Japanese stuff, Rubix.

**dore** · 10-10-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_haiku

Haiku in English is a development of the Japanese haiku poetic form in the English language.

Contemporary haiku are written in many languages, but most poets outside of Japan are concentrated in the English-speaking countries.

It is impossible to single out any current style, format, or subject matter as definitive. Some of the more common practices in English include:

* Use of three lines of up to 17 syllables;
* Use of a season word (kigo);
* Use of a cut or kire (sometimes indicated by a punctuation mark) to implicitly compare two images.

The typical length of haiku appearing in the main English-language journals is 10–14 syllables[1][2] and few have a syllabically symmetrical line arrangement such as 5-7-5 or 3-5-3. Some haiku poets are concerned with their haiku being expressed in one breath [3][4][5] and the extent to which their haiku focus on "showing" as opposed to "telling".

look what a quick search found out. I've almost never seen serious English haikus at 5-7-5.

10-9-2009, 02:08 PM	#1
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Like chalk on a blackboard, We write our names on the trees: History remembers? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-9-2009, 02:09 PM	#2
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class The only goddamn Mother**ing bull** is We're superior. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-9-2009, 06:01 PM	#3
LinkTheHoT FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 4	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Wait lol, the first on isn't a haiku (6 7 6?)

10-9-2009, 11:20 PM	#4
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class haikus don't have to be 5/7/5 unless you're in middle school; besides, you'd naturally de-emphasize "on a" into one syllable and "history" into two so natural speaking patterns make it 5ish/7/5ish __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-10-2009, 08:07 AM	#6
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Real haikus are not equivalent to 5/7/5 in English syllables so I don't see why it matters. I mean generally English haiku is shorter than 5/7/5 (like 3/5/3 or 4/6/4) but I decided to go longer. If I were to write a traditional Japanese haiku, then I'd learn Japanese, because you can't do it in English. But I'm writing free-form English haikus which don't have the same strict standards (just suggestions). if I had titled it "Two Short Poems" instead of "Two Haikus" then anybody who read them would've said "oh look haikus" anyway __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw Last edited by dore; 10-10-2009 at 08:14 AM..

10-10-2009, 08:09 AM	#7
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class bracket one bracket bracket eleven bracket bracket two bracket DERP! __________________

10-10-2009, 08:12 AM	#8
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class since I'm not a cool kid and don't have access to Maple in my bed __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-10-2009, 08:20 AM	#9
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Maple sucks your ass Mathematica or bust You freaking nublet __________________

10-10-2009, 08:23 AM	#10
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class I only need two more math classes to get my minor, so suck it. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-10-2009, 08:24 AM	#11
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Maple is free and available in our school's computer labs, k? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-10-2009, 08:25 AM	#12
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class I use my TI-89 for most math. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

10-10-2009, 12:15 PM	#14
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class To dore Haiku: One format Five seven five is correct Baka na hito __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-10-2009, 12:17 PM	#15
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Japanese haikus aren't necessarily "syllabic" (but generally are) because certain vowels and consonants (any vowel or "n" for instance) are considered their own sounds (listen to any freaking Japanese song). You'll notice in music how certain sounds are broken apart into their "on"s all over the place. If you're making a haiku in English, 5-7-5 is the correct format and there's really no argument otherwise, lol. PS coming from someone who actually knows Japanese DOMINATED Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUeh71p3yJo The VERY first line of this song: "Konya mo mata hakanai hoshi zora" You'll notice "konya" sounds like "ko + n + ya" which in Japanese is considered three "on"s or three "syllables" in English equivalent. In regular speech though, you'd hear it spoken as "kon + ya," generally speaking, but it's still technically three separate sounds. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY Last edited by MrRubix; 10-10-2009 at 12:23 PM..

10-10-2009, 12:24 PM	#16
GG_Guru Let em' do what they want Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,219	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Rubix you're like half japanese. __________________

10-10-2009, 12:25 PM	#17
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class More like 100% pure cracker __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-10-2009, 12:26 PM	#18
GG_Guru Let em' do what they want Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,219	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class More like crackanese. __________________

10-10-2009, 03:23 PM	#19
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: Two Haikus Written in Linear Algebra Class Haikus are harder in Japanese since each consonant is always followed by a vowel. English is easier, since of course most words don't rhyme or are pronounced differently. Here's a haiku I made in 20 seconds flat: Travel to Japan Pick up bilingualism It shall be useful Yeah, I didn't know you were into Japanese stuff, Rubix. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak.

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