Old 06-13-2014, 10:12 PM   #21
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it just happens by accident
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:18 PM   #22
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Like others have already said, the feeling of achievement is nicest with AAAs for me. Although I still get excited when I get an FC on a song of a very high difficulty level (86+ FCs excite me).

Whenever you finally AAA a song it's like you've completely mastered the rhythm of that song and that patterns within it. It shows definite improvement and in addition I feel like the more I'm able to AAA the more difficult songs I'm able to actually read the notes on harder songs better.

For example, sometimes in easier songs there will be the same pattern that shows up in a more difficult song, but slower or in a nicer setting (with less notes surrounding it) to where I can actually see the pattern easier and that way I'm more likely to recognize it when I see it amidst a cluster of other arrows surrounding it in a more difficult song. Going back to master those easier songs makes it to where eventually I can master the more difficult songs.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:05 AM   #23
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i have 0 public aaa's and i'm borderline d2-d3.

i know for sure i'm in the minority but i don't see the point in literally trying to hit every single arrow perfectly, it's way too much effort and luck, especially when i get random goods in easy (or hard) spots where i have no clue what i did wrong. i believe that in ffr a good is called a "good" for a reason, and that the way people tend to interpret ffr timing judgements suggests that perfect/good/average/miss should be renamed average/bad/terrible/cataclysmic. why ffr players are so self-deprecating is something i'll never understand.

i only really play this game to waste time and for enjoyment, and trying to hit every arrow within the three frame window certainly fulfills the first objective but not really the second.
Well, its not exactly luck to get a aaa, its actually quite easy. If youre almost D3 you can EASILY get 300+ aaas without even trying. I know for a fact you can go aaa excite bike right now and you wouldnt even lose sleep over it. You just have the midset of "im never getting a aaa because im stubborn". Even if you just played the game for fun why wouldnt you want to get them? Makes no sense.

For example, im going to play mario kart for fun just to pass the time but im never going to get first place because its way too hard and just luck based. I mean why worry about it right? Second or 5th place are just as good... And you dont even have to try



Edit: And my point stands, if you can aaa this you can aaa almost anything 50 and under.... EASILY. You played it 20 times so cant just go with i got it first try or anything

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1 65 OMGWTFT0k3N 925,350* 597 0 0 0 0 597 20
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:35 AM   #24
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I've always found the most pleasure in rhythm games when playing my favorite tracks, casually hitting notes and jamming along, but it seems the general consensus on this site is that going for AAAs is what you're supposed to do. That's super cool and I love watching replays of people smash songs, but what about it keeps you guys grinding for that perfect run?
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:41 AM   #25
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[AAAing] just happens by accident
pretty much what happens for me

i'm with zap, i'm pretty lazy and dont want to slave through 2000+ charts i wouldnt enjoy (!! damn FFR is huge!), playing them 1~10 times to AAA them all

i just play songs that i enjoy, to see how far i can push myself, and pat myself on the back for hitting some ridiculous section that was difficult before
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:32 AM   #26
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excluding vrofl, the difficulty cap in FFR is so low that, barring maybe at most 10 files, if the score isn't a AAA, I don't consider it to be good (I recognize this isn't a healthy mindset to approach the game, but in terms of playing competitively, it's true)

SM on the other hand is a different story...and for that very reason I find SM much more enjoyable to play
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:15 AM   #27
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it's because we're a bunch of nerds D U H
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:52 AM   #28
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FFR gives a mix of both accuracy and speed, but is more focused on how you can approach files.

Stepmania you can force a lot of patterns and not get boos, and you can consider chord cohesion. On the other hand in FFR you can't take advantage of chord cohesion or you get averages/boos, so you need to try another approach. It also gives you a more accurate display of your splitting tendencies on jumps/hands/quads.

In other words, you have the extremes in Stepmania: You can watch Staiain's plays on stamina draining and fast songs, you can see OldCartoon getting scores with ridiculously low perfect counts even if other players can get better greats and CBs. FFR is unfair when you consider lag issues, but I don't see anyone getting 1/4 my perfect accuracy on FFR songs. If anything, my accuracy is generally pretty close to the "most accurate" players in FFR, but on Stepmania my perfect count is much worse.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:04 AM   #29
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Because it's fun to do well on hard things

It's also fun to see yourself improve over time. Setting goals and then meeting them, etc.
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Was anyone else reminded of a certain Batman Begins quote upon seeing this thread title btw :P
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:03 PM   #31
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I tend to AAA usually by accident, attempting to unlock something like Oni, or trying to beat someone else's score in a tourney or rivalry. I'd call myself high D4, so I know I can do more, but there's not a strong enough incentive for me to burn through and AAA a solid 500 songs without it providing some first-link comparison or achievement, especially with the semi-limited amount of time I have to play.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:28 PM   #32
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It's representative to someone's skill, consistency, and dedication. The more you have, the better you are at the game. If for whatever reason you're D4 and up and don't have a lot of AAAs, you're lacking in one of those 3. If you have all 3, no problem at all to get over 1000 in your AAA bar.

I lack in the consistency department big time, even though I have enough skill to AAA 70+ songs now it likely won't happen due to my inconsistency. So I stopped going for AAAs since it just pisses me off most of the time, but whenever I do get a AAA it's a nice surprise since I'm not expecting it. I usually just let it happen naturally instead of forcing it.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:58 PM   #33
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Because drawing scores against eachother is the only way to determine whether you are better than someone else, getting a perfect score is the perfect way to beat your opponent. Also I guess it gives a certain feeling of satisfaction knowing you ''beat'' the song. Me personally I am very satisfied to go 20 goods on a song. I think AAA'ing is too frustrating.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:58 PM   #34
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Well, its not exactly luck to get a aaa, its actually quite easy. If youre almost D3 you can EASILY get 300+ aaas without even trying.
i literally can't sightread aaa anything.

yeah sure if i actually wanted to get an aaa on any particular song under like 30 i could probably do it with enough patience, but certainly not on the first go, except for *really* easy things. if that was necessary like if i was in a tournament or something i'd have to play it over and over to get the aaa. if i'm playing for fun what's the point in playing an easy song a lot of times trying to hit every note perfectly and getting frustrated when i get a good on a random arrow on an easy part, just to get the aaa?

i would demonstrate by giving a replay, but i haven't in fact played this game in a few months (check my last played dates) since i'm stuck with this shitty laptop keyboard that gives me random misses all the time especially on repeated notes. this includes typing.


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Edit: And my point stands, if you can aaa this you can aaa almost anything 50 and under.... EASILY. You played it 20 times so cant just go with i got it first try or anything

Rank ▴ D Level Score P G A M B C Played
1 65 OMGWTFT0k3N 925,350* 597 0 0 0 0 597 20
i got this score a long time ago when i was low d2 and getting single digit goods on like mid-30s and unable to read things in the high 40s at all.

i vehemently maintain that this song ought to be given a rating in the low 30s, like 32-33. what you may find hard (in this case the arrow gimmick) may not be hard for everyone, though i'm probably finding this on the easier end. you could similarly say that since i find it fairly easy to do the 2-4-6-8-10(12) thing on excite bike to unlock omgwtft0k3n and gammablaster can't do it even on the r^3 engine then that makes me mid d7.

the 20 plays don't include several hundred restarts. i have a screenshot of the aaa posted in the 2012 scores thread that i'm too lazy to dig up but it has 160ish restarts and that was only on the last day when i was improving it from a black flag or 1-0-0-1 (can't remember which) to an aaa, and i only did that to reinforce my point in the thread about the song being hugely over-rated.
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Because it's fun to do well on hard things

It's also fun to see yourself improve over time. Setting goals and then meeting them, etc.
I feel you.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:58 AM   #38
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perfect/good/average/miss should be renamed average/bad/terrible/cataclysmic.
I'm liking this idea.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:43 AM   #39
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i too adopt the "screw that" mindset mainly for this reason:
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i'm playing for fun what's the point in playing an easy song a lot of times trying to hit every note perfectly and getting frustrated when i get a good on a random arrow on an easy part, just to get the aaa?
If I wanted to get my AAA's up I'd have to spend hours drudgingly playing slow, unchallenging songs and getting frustrated. I still sometimes have nightmares about Spontaneous Hydroxide. it's #6 in my top 10 most played songs (and that's not even counting restarts) and I haven't even AAA'd it yet. the other songs are in the top 10 because i actually like them.

Most my AAAs are done unintentionally, the rest are pre"F-that" mindset.
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Old 06-15-2014, 12:42 PM   #40
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i want to see how good i can get. my stats represent that, on a personal level. competition wise its completely different, but the more people i can get a lower rank then the harder i will play to pass the next one
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