Any Tips For Me ( Getting Better )

[potasium56]

Well, Think i've hit my skill level....

Can do lvl 46 songs without dieing or losing. im just doing my unplayed list, not trying to fc, aaa or sdg just to complete the song..

My settings below

- framerate 144

- Rate 1

- Speed 2

- judge Offset ( Tried auto and tried 0 ) not sure which is better

- 4 finger technique - Bindings usually are df45 - as45 or zx45 - Always switch it up

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I have issues with fast sequences like as45 54sa as45 54sa im able to do jumps alright, but depending on the length of the song my fingers tense up and don't do what my brain wants me to do lol if this makes sence.

Edited - like some hard song that have close notes where im unable to tell which one to click and so on and so on i tend to just mash my keys in hopes to not miss any but i do get boos. I'm not sure how to get better and improve any suggestions or tips?

[devonin]

You internalize the sequences as you go. Increasing the speed more will space out the arrows that are closer together.

Looking at your top songs, your AAA equivalency of your hardest songs is around 14-16

You'll probably find better improvement playing songs in the 20-30 range and working on AAA'ing them than forcing your way up into the 50s and mashing.

FFR becomes a game of muscle memory, so you want to play where you can hit patterns cleanly and parse what they are.

The song 'Guitar vs Piano' is a really good song for learning patterns, and building read speed, given your current skill level. It is just a very fast very long stream. It will also help with endurance issues you're finding hitting faster clusters where you're mashing now.

[potasium56]

Originally Posted by devonin

You internalize the sequences as you go. Increasing the speed more will space out the arrows that are closer together.

Looking at your top songs, your AAA equivalency of your hardest songs is around 14-16

You'll probably find better improvement playing songs in the 20-30 range and working on AAA'ing them than forcing your way up into the 50s and mashing.

FFR becomes a game of muscle memory, so you want to play where you can hit patterns cleanly and parse what they are.

The song 'Guitar vs Piano' is a really good song for learning patterns, and building read speed, given your current skill level. It is just a very fast very long stream. It will also help with endurance issues you're finding hitting faster clusters where you're mashing now.

Thanks for the advice, I've tried going to speed 2.2 but found it way to fast for me. I'm good at speed 2 for the moment until i improve .

I already knew increase the speed would space the arrows out more. But, this means my reation time must be able to handle it and it doesn't atm.

Im going to try what you said, doing AAA for lvl 20 to 30 songs. Just hate having to restart cause i got 1 good hehe. Might even just see if i can lower my good ratio as im very bad at timing and will 100% get goods.

[devonin]

Yeah you almost certainly need to adjust your global offset.

Do me a favour and play the song 'CIA Rave v2' and try your best to hit the buttons based on the -music- and not where the arrows actually are, and then when you're done, rightclick on the results screen where it says 'Scroll Speed' in the middle left of the result and tell me what number it says there.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by potasium56

I have issues with fast sequences like as45 54sa as45 54sa

like this?


use Auto judge offset, try framerate 55, key setup is fine, speed is fine.

[potasium56]

Originally Posted by devonin

Yeah you almost certainly need to adjust your global offset.

Do me a favour and play the song 'CIA Rave v2' and try your best to hit the buttons based on the -music- and not where the arrows actually are, and then when you're done, rightclick on the results screen where it says 'Scroll Speed' in the middle left of the result and tell me what number it says there.

so, do i complete this whole song? or just do a section of it and fail? then right click and show you my scroll speed, also not sure i can even complete CIA Rave atleast not the old version heh

I don't have CIA Rave v2

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by devonin

Yeah you almost certainly need to adjust your global offset.

Do me a favour and play the song 'CIA Rave v2' and try your best to hit the buttons based on the -music- and not where the arrows actually are, and then when you're done, rightclick on the results screen where it says 'Scroll Speed' in the middle left of the result and tell me what number it says there.

That's judge offset, not global. Global would need to be adjusted if you feel there is a discrepancy between the placement of the arrows and the music. Auto judge offset should be able to handle any minor accuracy problems (on the technical end), where global offset would help on the player's end.

[devonin]

Do a good amount of it anyway, all of it if you want. The goal is to access your accuracy information which is what you see when you right-click on your scroll speed on the results screen.

Whatever number is shown there, change your "Global Offset" in the options to the -opposite- of the number there.

If it says Accuracy +1.20000 change it to -1.2 in options.
If it says Accuracy -1.20000 change it to 1.2 in options

etc

You can do this with any song, I just like CIA Rave v2 for it because it's easy enough to hit everything in a way that -should- be an amazing, and the arrows are literally -exactly just- the music and nothing else.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

That's judge offset, not global. Global would need to be adjusted if you feel there is a discrepancy between the placement of the arrows and the music. Auto judge offset should be able to handle any minor accuracy problems (on the technical end), where global offset would help on the player's end.

Yes...if hitting the arrows to the music and not the chart gives you tons of goods, it's a global offset problem.

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by devonin

Yes...if hitting the arrows to the music and not the chart gives you tons of goods, it's a global offset problem.

Yes, you're right, but the number you get from right clicking the scroll speed in results tells you nothing about global (although it could be inferred if it's drastically different from normal). It's just something you adjust until it feels right.

[potasium56]

So wait do i just enable auto judge offset?, i did try this before and didn't seem to notice a difference. Idk, i find some songs to just be offbeat and could be user error on my part.

I also don't have CIA Rave v2 @devoni

[devonin]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

Yes, you're right, but the number you get from right clicking the scroll speed in results tells you nothing about global (although it could be inferred if it's drastically different from normal). It's just something you adjust until it feels right.

Adjusting my global offset based on the accuracy shown there has dramatic and instantaneous impacts on my accuracy. Like, the difference between 10-88 and 98-0

Judge offset is basically not a thing that ought to do anything for me. I am -absolutely- hitting the arrows at or basically at the correct time to match the music. Inaccuracy for me is when the chart doesn't actually land on top of the music properly. When I change global offset, my results improve hugely. So whether that's a local flash thing, or a local system thing, or a chart thing, global offset is what fixes it.

[rushyrulz]

I've always seen Judge Offset as a way to correct micro-latencies caused by hardware (monitor lag, keyboard input lag, etc.) The song could feel perfectly in-sync but accuracy is still skewed because of this.

I suppose an argument could be made for adjusting global to compensate for this as well, but most people I know use judge for this.

Originally Posted by potasium56

So wait do i just enable auto judge offset?

I'd say yes for the reasons I stated above, but make sure the arrows feel in-sync with the music first!

Originally Posted by potasium56

I also don't have CIA Rave v2

Any song that you feel you should perform very accurately on will do, I'm sure.

[Mahou]

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[devonin]

I've always seen Judge Offset as a way to correct micro-latencies caused by hardware (monitor lag, keyboard input lag, etc.) The song could feel perfectly in-sync but accuracy is still skewed because of this.

Right, but I mean, I'm not talking about getting more perfects vs amazings than expected and having a hard time getting 0 goods. I'm talking about "AAA'd" versus "All Goods"

If there's one thing I can do well, it is hit the arrow exactly when the music says I should. The problem is that when the music says I should hit the arrow, the arrow is not, in fact, positioned directly over the receptor.

And it's not a difference of a 0.1 or something. On average, I have to set my global offset to 1.5. Sometimes as low as 1 or 0.9 sometimes as high as 2.5 or 2.6

[rushyrulz]

Right, it changes from song to song a bit more than I think it should honestly. My global varies from -3 to +2 depending on what I'm playing, but I don't bother with decimals. If it feels wrong on every whole number I try, I just mute it (if I'm trying to AAA).

[potasium56]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

Any song that you feel you should perform very accurately on will do, I'm sure.

So how do i do it? step by step? here is my understanding on how to calculate global offset....

Pick a well on beat song to begin with and play the whole thing, once completed right click something on the results page? then not sure what

Edited okay, I just did the song " One Last Battle " With 0 judge offset and 0 global offset and here is my results below

Framerate 144

Speed 2

Scroll Speed is : -0.111

[SK8R43]

Have you tried a lower framerate? Say 55?
It should work better but you might have to increase your speed as well.

[devonin]

Accuracy of -0.1111 means you're actually pretty bang on as it is. Changing the judge offset to +0.1 might make some tiny improvements.

Also, you'll note that the 5-0-0-1 you got on the song 20 minutes ago is currently your 3rd highest ranked song at a AAA equivalency of 15.19. This is what I mean about working on accuracy on easier songs being better than trying to just -pass- harder songs.

Spend some more time on 20s and low 30s, and your scores on 45s will get better than they will if you play 50s instead.

[potasium56]

Originally Posted by SK8R43

Have you tried a lower framerate? Say 55?
It should work better but you might have to increase your speed as well.

I tired 55 and it was to choppy, went to 60 and it solved that issue....Just trying to figure out my global offset and trying to determine if auto judge offset helps or makes it worst having a hard time telling?