So, windows 7 came out - Page 8

**sumzup** · 10-28-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fido123

Also from what I have been told by my high school's IT guy, as well as from what I've read is Microsoft does program a lot of their components, and applications especially such as MS Word using BASIC. Microsoft was the company that picked BASIC up and made it popular. I agree with pretty much everything you say,

Huh...that just sounds so crazy, but I'll take your word for it. I just hope that any BASIC components are non-critical (and mostly restricted to macro-esque functionality), because otherwise that's really dumb.

Izzy · 10-28-2009, 08:32 PM

There's no way they would write any major OS components in Basic. Considering how they reuse a lot of code from previous OS's where basic didn't even exist it seems unlikely.

scl1604 · 10-28-2009, 08:32 PM

So does upgrading to Windows 7 clear up the lag that some users experienced while playing FFR under Vista?

MrRubix · 10-28-2009, 08:42 PM

I've got W7 all set up and good to go. So far I can't detect much difference between Vista 64 and W7 64 -- my benchmarks are only slightly better, but not by much.

Oh, and my W7 performance benchmarks.

Which sucks because the HDD's are the bottleneck due to the fact that they're not solid state (if they had 1 TB SSD's, I'd be all over that ****).

My processor is an i7 920 overclocked to 4.2 Ghz -- I'd get a 7.9 if I were hitting 4.2 with an i7 975, which has a faster QPI link speed than the i7 920. However, the 920 has a MUCH better performance to price ratio and chews through anything.

My hard drive is not a solid state -- magnetic drives are capped at 5.9, so that's good at least. Supposedly you hit higher marks by putting SSD's in raid0.

My 3dMark score improved by 200 or so points from Vista to Win7.

Next upgrade, I'm going all out.

**x After Dawn x** · 10-28-2009, 10:08 PM

^ tl;dr: Windows 7 performs better than Windows Vista.

MrRubix · 10-28-2009, 10:16 PM

Marginally

Izzy · 10-28-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scl1604

So does upgrading to Windows 7 clear up the lag that some users experienced while playing FFR under Vista?

If you switch the theme to the old win 98 theme then ffr doesn't lag on win7.

NFD · 10-29-2009, 12:59 AM

how did shox make the icons small on the toolbar >_>

**sumzup** · 10-29-2009, 01:38 AM

I think the main difference is that Win7 greatly outperforms Vista on crappier hardware...that's why it runs well on netbooks. Vista on a netbook would be a nightmare.

fido123 · 10-29-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djshox

Right click on taskbar > properties > use small icons.

The problem I had with that though is the Windows maximized just leave a bunch of open space between the bar and the window. Also my school is giving me the legit version of W7 so I will try this out soons.

EDIT: This was fixed in the final release it seems. It's nice.

NFD · 10-29-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djshox

Right click on taskbar > properties > use small icons.

Eh not worth it I guess, I like seeing the date.

MrRubix · 10-29-2009, 08:50 PM

I'd say the marginal gains are primarily to the lower-end-hardware users. The gains for the higher-end hardware under Win7 are minimal at best.

scl1604 · 10-30-2009, 08:57 PM

If you are running Windows 7 with Aero on full blast and are able to play FFR and SM with zero lag, please raise your hand and describe your hardware setup and your software and BIOS settings.

ItIsAMystery · 10-30-2009, 11:47 PM

Intel i7 920 OC to 4.2 GHz
12 GB RAM
Latest Firefox

fido123 · 11-1-2009, 12:19 PM

Well now I'm using the full version of Windows 7 and I'm not getting these bull**** errors I got with the RC. Only problem I had was my fault because I was a retard and forgot to install my NVidea driver and was raging when I was running WoW at only 30FPS when I usually get over 100.

Izzy · 11-1-2009, 12:27 PM

I think it's impressive that the drivers that come with windows 7 can run anything at 30 fps.

fido123 · 11-1-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

I think it's impressive that the drivers that come with windows 7 can run anything at 30 fps.

It's just WoW xD but yeah, these drivers are pretty good. Don't have to run up into my sisters room to get onto the router, just so I can get the WLAN driver on a 800x900 resolution on a 22" widescreen.

simulater10 · 11-1-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by scl1604

If you are running Windows 7 with Aero on full blast and are able to play FFR and SM with zero lag, please raise your hand and describe your hardware setup and your software and BIOS settings.

Default everything on my Toshiba satellite. Never had lag problems on Vista OR 7 ever.

ps. I use chrome too

fido123 · 11-1-2009, 11:38 PM

You should probably see if you can get any Windows 7 drivers for your hardware. Toshiba I Would assume has better hardware for these 3rd party drivers as they don't have any fruity hardware. The other drivers would still give you a better performance though.

10-28-2009, 06:15 AM	#141
NFD FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I see us on a beach down in, Mexico Age: 30 Posts: 4,715	Re: So, windows 7 came out no? __________________

10-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#143
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 33 Posts: 9,192	Re: So, windows 7 came out There's no way they would write any major OS components in Basic. Considering how they reuse a lot of code from previous OS's where basic didn't even exist it seems unlikely.

10-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#144
scl1604 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 31	Re: So, windows 7 came out So does upgrading to Windows 7 clear up the lag that some users experienced while playing FFR under Vista?

10-28-2009, 08:42 PM	#145
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: So, windows 7 came out I've got W7 all set up and good to go. So far I can't detect much difference between Vista 64 and W7 64 -- my benchmarks are only slightly better, but not by much. Oh, and my W7 performance benchmarks. Which sucks because the HDD's are the bottleneck due to the fact that they're not solid state (if they had 1 TB SSD's, I'd be all over that ****). My processor is an i7 920 overclocked to 4.2 Ghz -- I'd get a 7.9 if I were hitting 4.2 with an i7 975, which has a faster QPI link speed than the i7 920. However, the 920 has a MUCH better performance to price ratio and chews through anything. My hard drive is not a solid state -- magnetic drives are capped at 5.9, so that's good at least. Supposedly you hit higher marks by putting SSD's in raid0. My 3dMark score improved by 200 or so points from Vista to Win7. Next upgrade, I'm going all out. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-28-2009, 10:16 PM	#147
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: So, windows 7 came out Marginally __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-29-2009, 12:59 AM	#149
NFD FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I see us on a beach down in, Mexico Age: 30 Posts: 4,715	Re: So, windows 7 came out how did shox make the icons small on the toolbar >_> __________________

10-29-2009, 01:38 AM	#150
sumzup (+ (- (/ (* 1 2) 3) 4) 5) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 1,398	Re: So, windows 7 came out I think the main difference is that Win7 greatly outperforms Vista on crappier hardware...that's why it runs well on netbooks. Vista on a netbook would be a nightmare. __________________

10-29-2009, 08:50 PM	#153
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: So, windows 7 came out I'd say the marginal gains are primarily to the lower-end-hardware users. The gains for the higher-end hardware under Win7 are minimal at best. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

10-30-2009, 08:57 PM	#154
scl1604 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 31	Re: So, windows 7 came out If you are running Windows 7 with Aero on full blast and are able to play FFR and SM with zero lag, please raise your hand and describe your hardware setup and your software and BIOS settings.

10-30-2009, 11:47 PM	#155
ItIsAMystery FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 49	Re: So, windows 7 came out Intel i7 920 OC to 4.2 GHz 12 GB RAM Latest Firefox

11-1-2009, 12:19 PM	#156
fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: So, windows 7 came out Well now I'm using the full version of Windows 7 and I'm not getting these bull**** errors I got with the RC. Only problem I had was my fault because I was a retard and forgot to install my NVidea driver and was raging when I was running WoW at only 30FPS when I usually get over 100.

11-1-2009, 12:27 PM	#157
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 33 Posts: 9,192	Re: So, windows 7 came out I think it's impressive that the drivers that come with windows 7 can run anything at 30 fps.

11-1-2009, 11:38 PM	#160
fido123 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 4,245	Re: So, windows 7 came out You should probably see if you can get any Windows 7 drivers for your hardware. Toshiba I Would assume has better hardware for these 3rd party drivers as they don't have any fruity hardware. The other drivers would still give you a better performance though.

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