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Old 07-1-2018, 01:19 PM   #21
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the implication being the current version in game is overcharted?

everything in nathan's maniera is musically justified, if anything he undercharted specific parts and deliberately chose very lenient patterning for sections that could've ramped up the difficulty significantly higher than what it is

an easier version at the difficulty level you specified wouldn't simply be 'non-overcharted', it would be overwhelmingly undercharted...that isn't to say it couldn't be done, but to insinuate the current version is overcharted because it's difficult is pretty silly
No, it's actually overcharted. I would know, I've played maniera 4k charts before in other rhythm games and they are nowhere near as dense as his chart. Even the 7k "masterpiece" chart in osu!mania has less notes.
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Old 07-1-2018, 01:27 PM   #22
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Yes because overchartedness is scalable strictly based on where a chart's difficulty lies in comparison to other versions you've played and has nothing to do with comparing the notes to the song itself. It's not at all possible that every chart you've encountered thus far have been varying degrees of undercharted for the sake of playability (and it's clear you've never played 0's version)

I mean I'm sure you have a rather extensive simfiling repertoire so we can trust your authority on a matter like this.
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Yes because overchartedness is scalable strictly based on where a chart's difficulty lies in comparison to other versions you've played and nothing to do with comparing the notes to the song itself. It's not at all possible that every chart you've encountered thus far have been varying degrees of undercharted for the sake of playability (and it's clear you've never played 0's version)

I mean I'm sure you have a rather extensive simfiling repertoire so we can trust your authority on a matter like this.
As if I've never created a chart before...

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Old 07-1-2018, 01:34 PM   #25
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idk what graveyarded means in this context but it sounds not good lol

but alright dude you do you or w.e, if you have that much experience creating charts idk why the hell you made this thread instead of just doing it yourself?????

edit: cbr i wish this was bait
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Old 07-1-2018, 01:36 PM   #26
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No, it's actually overcharted. I would know, I've played maniera 4k charts before in other rhythm games and they are nowhere near as dense as his chart. Even the 7k "masterpiece" chart in osu!mania has less notes.
When one of the best players in the world and old simfile difficulty judge (OWA) tells you you're wrong, you have to learn to stfu or provide actual proof to back up your statements.
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Old 07-1-2018, 01:38 PM   #27
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is the version on FFR the same as the challenge difficulty of the song in nuclear blast 5? both are ilikexd, id imagine the FFR one has some of the bs removed like that gross 24th stream into 416 bpm "roll wall" stream like wat

also idk about anyone else here but when i read the replies that are like "you should be the one to create MANIERA v2 or nerfed versions of any other FFR songs that you like." its like... lol, sure, but imo that's a pretty bad mindset to have, why not be like "damn this song is hard, I should practice so i can play it eventually" like lol i dunno

the only reason to restep a file I feel is if either the file is really bad, or if you want to make something completely different, like a jack version of game time or something lol, and for maniera, I feel the versions that exist are fine

I mean, if you have some osu map of maniera thats easier or whatever and you want to play it on FFR just link me it and I can convert it to FFR and put it on my engine, personally id say just git gud tho to eventually play the real thing

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idk what graveyarded means in this context but it sounds not good lol
graveyarded isn't a bad thing, osu has a system where you can download maps and songs ingame and such, and each player can only have 4 maps uploaded at one time (unless you are a supporter then its 8 maps)... after a month of not editing them, they automatically go to the graveyard

in this situation i guess them having 59 graveyarded maps implies two things, one that they have 59 maps, and also that theyve been making files for more than a month (probably alot longer than that since 8 slots etc)

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Old 07-1-2018, 01:42 PM   #28
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also ya'll are too quick to judge, I've tried their files and they actually aren't horrible, well i mean, I can at least say that theyre unique pattern wise lol, they feel like some weird einar files with split jumptrills ending with minijacks etc
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Old 07-1-2018, 01:51 PM   #29
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also ya'll are too quick to judge, I've tried their files and they actually aren't horrible, well i mean, I can at least say that theyre unique pattern wise lol, they feel like some weird einar files with split jumptrills ending with minijacks etc
the vast majority of the time when a user makes a thread like this, it's because they have little to no experience simfiling so they reach out on the forums to appeal to users that already have charts in game

when someone has stepped over 60 charts and makes a thread like this, then (barring the charts aren't all terrible) it's sheer laziness on their end, or bait (unlikely but shoutouts to my boy cbr if that's the case)

and it's difficult not to be blunt with responses given the lack of any logical counterargument in the posts where op is refuting arguments in this thread
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Old 07-1-2018, 01:55 PM   #30
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stepped 2 easier versions
but you can't have 'em
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stepped 2 easier versions
but you can't have 'em
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also ya'll are too quick to judge
Says the person who basically told DigiBit to fuck off right away LOL ;p
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Old 07-1-2018, 02:02 PM   #33
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idk what graveyarded means in this context but it sounds not good lol

but alright dude you do you or w.e, if you have that much experience creating charts idk why the hell you made this thread instead of just doing it yourself?????

edit: cbr i wish this was bait
Graveyarded maps are maps that haven't been updated for 28 days or more
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Old 07-1-2018, 02:09 PM   #34
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lmao "updated" charts
just don't suck at stepping and do it right the first time
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this thread is a dumpster fire already and dingles shitposting doesnt help as usual
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At this point I'm gonna assume that the op is either trying to bait, and/or is someone who should go back to the "cancer" osu community as they put it because it seems like a more like minded community for them to belong to. The lack of actually responding to any counter arguments and instead just feeling themself up only furthers this point and I'll probably stop bothering with assuming anything decent will ever happen here.
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They claim to be a wolfkin (top kek) and are banned for several hundred hours on osu! because of poor forum conduct (baiting) case closed bye
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At this point I'm gonna assume that the op is either trying to bait, and/or is someone who should go back to the "cancer" osu community as they put it because it seems like a more like minded community for them to belong to. The lack of actually responding to any counter arguments and instead just feeling themself up only furthers this point and I'll probably stop bothering with assuming anything decent will ever happen here.
if OP actually cared about what he's/she's/it's writing in the first place he/she/it would've went to make the chart considering he/she/it clearly seems like a person who is capable of that.
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this thread is a dumpster fire already and dingles shitposting doesnt help as usual
I knew it was gonna be a dumpster fire, this thread started as a joke (like the "OMG PLZ NERF") ones, and when it started going to shit, I just played along.
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