Internet Explorer...screw yourself. - Page 3

Laharl · 06-8-2004, 08:52 PM

*note* I'm only responding to ones that are worth arguing against, because some of the anti-IE people are being stupid.

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Originally Posted by MrESqueek

3. Skins... Why? I have a winXP skin that fixes everything to my liking. No need.

I missed the thing about skins, but I can take a guess as to what they are. The fact that IE does not support them at all makes any that does inherently better, even if it's a feature you personally find useless. I don't care for skins either, so it doesn't affect my choice of webbrowser at all, but for some people, customization is their life.

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4. How can you work faster? It has more code and requires more system memory to run. Maybe you just screwed up your IE, or the other browser takes over it when you install, like RealPlayer tries to do.

IE takes twice as long to load any pages than FireFox does, barring ones made with the explicit intent and purpose of running 100% perfectly in Internet Explorer, such as any and all Microsoft Corporation pages. It also runs using bloated code. It takes more of my computer's RAM to have FFR open in IE than it does in FireFox. Now, if what you said is correct, the opposite should be true.

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5. IRC sucks. mIRC was only good for scripting.

Personal vendettas against IRC as a whole is now arguing like the people with personall vendettas against IE, so don't even try that angle lest you make yourself out to be a hypocrite. mIRC also works, unlike a large majority of IRC clients I've encountered I was told I need to use. Shure, it's pretty bare-basics, but it works.

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6. Tabbed windows for what reason? I find Alt+Tab to be much more efficient than having to move the mouse.

Yet again, extra features do not detract from a program, but lack of them will for certain people.

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7. Reason for support? Negatory. Learn how to use a computer maybe.

Huh? What was yor question a counter to?

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8. Control clicks with the google toolbar allows needed popups.

Which is a pain in the ass to HAVE to do to let needed popups get through.

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12. Never crashed IE in my life. 10 years now.

You're a rare person. IE crashes on me when I click the link to go to my hotmail account inside of MSN messenger, for crying out loud.

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13. ... Try using one password for every site. Microsoft also has a built-in feature in its OS for password remembering.

Using one password is not a safe thing to do. Someone discovers it, how many things can they now access?

And as for what you're saying about XP... I have yet to know what you're talking about. It's never asked me if I wanted to store a password after I enter some place that requires one.

**Spazzbite** · 06-8-2004, 09:24 PM

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Now I'm off to pursue my CS degree and start a company that will eliminate all opposition in the gaming industry. What are you doing with your life?

Well let's see.. I'm 15 years old, I'm about to get a large sponsorship in skateboarding, I make hundreds of dollars making images for companies owned by people I know, I have a wonderful relationship with my girlfriend, and I have clocked in over 200 hours of voluntary community service. What would you like to say to that?

QreepyBORIS · 06-8-2004, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. E Squeek or whatnot

Now I'm off to pursue my CS degree and start a company that will eliminate all opposition in the gaming industry. What are you doing with your life?

My, aren't we ambitious.

Sinjin · 06-8-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Now I'm off to pursue my CS degree and start a company that will eliminate all opposition in the gaming industry. What are you doing with your life?

Yeah, you do that.

blitzmage · 06-9-2004, 10:27 AM

=O
Thank you for showing me the light.
Now if only this thing could open evreything that needs the internet in Firefox.
(eg. MSN Messenger email)

netty400 · 06-9-2004, 10:47 AM

Mozilla.

The end.

banditcom · 06-9-2004, 11:09 AM

Privateer: I registered it so the ad's gone.

Privateer · 06-9-2004, 01:04 PM

Whatever. I don't care that much about what browser I use. Mozilla is fine.

**Squeek** · 06-9-2004, 02:04 PM

So far it's been like 5 people quoting the goal I set for myself. I know it's most likely not going to happen, but at least I have set a purpose in my life.

Like I said before, I'm fine with what I have. If it ever becomes a problem, then I will switch. It hasn't in the 8 years I've been using IE, so I think I'm set.

Go back to the topic and leave my personal matters alone. Insulting the person instead of the topic comments made by that person is just stupid.

Referring to the one person who actually made an intelligent reply to my comments:

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And as for what you're saying about XP... I have yet to know what you're talking about. It's never asked me if I wanted to store a password after I enter some place that requires one.

It should ask you the first time you type in a password on a site. If you reject it then, you have to probably go into some IE settings and change it back as it will never ask again.

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You're a rare person. IE crashes on me when I click the link to go to my hotmail account inside of MSN messenger, for crying out loud.

Why thank you. I'm sorry your IE does that, but it has never happened on my machine or any at my school for that matter.

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IE takes twice as long to load any pages than FireFox does, barring ones made with the explicit intent and purpose of running 100% perfectly in Internet Explorer, such as any and all Microsoft Corporation pages...

My speed on IE is pretty much instantaneous, or at least equal to the speed of my broadband connection, so I don't see how any other program could be faster. It might just be that my computer is optimum for running things and those that need Opera or MoZilla do not have such a luxury. Though I could be wrong.

Look, the real vendetta I have against Opera or Mozilla is that there are sites out there that do not work on these browsers. Another good reason is that HTML specifically coded for IE may screw up in the other browsers as I have seen happen before.

If you want to counter my statements, be like Laharl and counter them intelligently. Debate works when two people have differing opinions on a matter and attempt to reach a common goal.

~Squeek

Arch0wl · 06-9-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Privateer

If I had Opera, I still wouldnt use tabbed windows.

Ew, ad.

I hate tabbed windows =(

**Moogy** · 06-9-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Look, the real vendetta I have against Opera or Mozilla is that there are sites out there that do not work on these browsers. Another good reason is that HTML specifically coded for IE may screw up in the other browsers as I have seen happen before.

Just because IE has a broken interpretation of HTML doesn't mean other browsers have to. It's IE's problem and fault, not the browsers that are actually standards-compliant's fault.

And I have no idea how anyone could EVER dislike tabbed windows. If I didn't have tabbed windows I would rarely browse the internet.

IAMTHEEVILBEAN · 06-9-2004, 04:00 PM

IE screws up everything in coding.

It sucks.

Anticrombie0909 · 06-9-2004, 04:01 PM

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And I have no idea how anyone could EVER dislike tabbed windows. If I didn't have tabbed windows I would rarely browse the internet.

Agreed. Nothing is more annoying than either having 16 tiny tabs cluttering up your taskbar at the bottom, or having XP group them into one list and having you try to find the right one. Tabbed windows kick ass.

And Moogy's right as well about the HTML- IE and AOL actually have it wrong. They're the most commonplace browsers, so the rest of the internet conforms to them, when in reality, browsers like Mozilla and Netscape have it right.

netty400 · 06-9-2004, 04:09 PM

zefgawert

evilbutterfly · 06-9-2004, 04:26 PM

i hate tabbed windows...my parents use earthlink on their comp and i cant stand how it has it all tabbed at the bottom. i cant use my common alt+tab and alt+F4 "kill the pop up" reutine...

**Squeek** · 06-10-2004, 08:25 PM

Slightly late on the reply, but I decided to stop being completely biased without a basis and try out Opera. I was right only on one thing: sometimes the code screws up a little bit. But I can live with that due to the fact that this browser has everything I was looking for to make internetting simpler.

Seriously, if you really wanted me to try it out, you should have told me all or most of the features included; I would have jumped right into it. Instead I got a general overview without any of the features I was looking for included. Like mouse gestures or button configs on the mouse clicks (Opening in new background with middle click is ownage).

I now support Opera all the way, but it's still not a valid reason to put Internet Explorer down. It was still perfect for the use it was intended for and never crashed on my machine.

~Squeek

Xaimus · 06-13-2004, 11:04 PM

I just couldn't let this topic pass by without putting my two cents, wanted or not, in.

Internet Explorer is a damn fine browser, except for it's disgusting abuse of standards. Writing a stylesheet that will work seamlessly across all browsers goes smoothly and looks decent in every browser, except IE. Almost any web designer/stylist will curse the existence of IE, except for the assholes who feel the need to pollute the internet with table-based sites that use single-pixel GIFs to achieve positioning. I also wish I could use alpha-translucent PNGs without having to go through some crazyass DirectX filter shit to get it to work on the ONE browser that sadly, most people use.

I hate IE's rendering engine, so I hate IE.

DJ_Weasel · 06-14-2004, 12:16 AM

*Turns on Mozilla*

omg!! is it just me,or do I have spyware on my PC!!?

blitzmage · 06-14-2004, 01:07 AM

Haha, I love how the main window says "You have loads of spyware/Adware on your computer."
The poor little window is adware himself. =(
Remember Weasels need protection also!

Edit: You may want to get just Mozilla Firefox instead, it's compleatly clean.

NeoDarkHeart · 06-14-2004, 05:54 AM

www.crazybrowser.com

it owns firefox, IE, netscape, and is a hell of a lot more compatible with stuff than opera is.

it's IE-based, so it's got all those conviences and compatibility, with tabs, and its own popup blocker.

the tabs are easier to use than the ones in firefox, because you can add new ones without having to already have two open (the tab bar doesnt show in firefox unless you already have two tabs)
the tab bar is always there, and it's not so big as to be noticeable or intruding, but about half an inch, and easily adds/deletes tabs.

all links you click outside of the browser (on msn or aim or something) will open a new tab, as opposed to firefox, where it just changes the site you're already on. can't tell you how many times that annoyed me because i had the ffr game loaded 'n everything, and there it goes out the window cuz i clicked this link and the browser decided it didnt feel like making a new tab.

you can customize it to open a new link everytime you enter a url in the address bar, everytime you click within the browser, and everytime you open a site from your "favorites" list.

for all you GUYS out there, and maybe a few girls (i dunno), the history and cache and paging file and all that are easily erased by going "tools > clear history > clear all history" and no new windows are opened, because it's done in your toolbar. you get a message box saying all your crap's been erased, and your mom will never know you were whackin it. =P
you can even customize it so that the links you've been to dont show up as you're typing a url, so if you forget to erase all the stuff, and your mom wants to go to "www.supermarket.com" or something, she doesnt see the little drop-down thing with the list of porn sites starting with S you've been to.

get it, for your mom's sake. =P

06-9-2004, 01:04 PM	#48
Privateer FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 2,962	Whatever. I don't care that much about what browser I use. Mozilla is fine. __________________

06-9-2004, 04:26 PM	#55
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	i hate tabbed windows...my parents use earthlink on their comp and i cant stand how it has it all tabbed at the bottom. i cant use my common alt+tab and alt+F4 "kill the pop up" reutine... __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

06-13-2004, 11:04 PM	#57
Xaimus FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Manhattan, KS, THE BIG ONE Posts: 136	I just couldn't let this topic pass by without putting my two cents, wanted or not, in. Internet Explorer is a damn fine browser, except for it's disgusting abuse of standards. Writing a stylesheet that will work seamlessly across all browsers goes smoothly and looks decent in every browser, except IE. Almost any web designer/stylist will curse the existence of IE, except for the assholes who feel the need to pollute the internet with table-based sites that use single-pixel GIFs to achieve positioning. I also wish I could use alpha-translucent PNGs without having to go through some crazyass DirectX filter shit to get it to work on the ONE browser that sadly, most people use. I hate IE's rendering engine, so I hate IE. __________________ hooray bsd-tan

06-14-2004, 12:16 AM	#58
DJ_Weasel FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Anaheim Hills,CA Posts: 209	Turns on Mozilla omg!! is it just me,or do I have spyware on my PC!!? __________________

06-14-2004, 05:54 AM	#60
NeoDarkHeart FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 283	www.crazybrowser.com it owns firefox, IE, netscape, and is a hell of a lot more compatible with stuff than opera is. it's IE-based, so it's got all those conviences and compatibility, with tabs, and its own popup blocker. the tabs are easier to use than the ones in firefox, because you can add new ones without having to already have two open (the tab bar doesnt show in firefox unless you already have two tabs) the tab bar is always there, and it's not so big as to be noticeable or intruding, but about half an inch, and easily adds/deletes tabs. all links you click outside of the browser (on msn or aim or something) will open a new tab, as opposed to firefox, where it just changes the site you're already on. can't tell you how many times that annoyed me because i had the ffr game loaded 'n everything, and there it goes out the window cuz i clicked this link and the browser decided it didnt feel like making a new tab. you can customize it to open a new link everytime you enter a url in the address bar, everytime you click within the browser, and everytime you open a site from your "favorites" list. for all you GUYS out there, and maybe a few girls (i dunno), the history and cache and paging file and all that are easily erased by going "tools > clear history > clear all history" and no new windows are opened, because it's done in your toolbar. you get a message box saying all your crap's been erased, and your mom will never know you were whackin it. =P you can even customize it so that the links you've been to dont show up as you're typing a url, so if you forget to erase all the stuff, and your mom wants to go to "www.supermarket.com" or something, she doesnt see the little drop-down thing with the list of porn sites starting with S you've been to. get it, for your mom's sake. =P __________________ Stats You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence.

06-9-2004, 10:27 AM	#45
blitzmage Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 506	=O Thank you for showing me the light. Now if only this thing could open evreything that needs the internet in Firefox. (eg. MSN Messenger email)

06-9-2004, 11:09 AM	#47
banditcom FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Willimantic, CT Age: 41 Posts: 6,243	Privateer: I registered it so the ad's gone.

06-9-2004, 04:00 PM	#52
IAMTHEEVILBEAN FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,078	IE screws up everything in coding. It sucks.

06-10-2004, 08:25 PM	#56
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Slightly late on the reply, but I decided to stop being completely biased without a basis and try out Opera. I was right only on one thing: sometimes the code screws up a little bit. But I can live with that due to the fact that this browser has everything I was looking for to make internetting simpler. Seriously, if you really wanted me to try it out, you should have told me all or most of the features included; I would have jumped right into it. Instead I got a general overview without any of the features I was looking for included. Like mouse gestures or button configs on the mouse clicks (Opening in new background with middle click is ownage). I now support Opera all the way, but it's still not a valid reason to put Internet Explorer down. It was still perfect for the use it was intended for and never crashed on my machine. ~Squeek

06-14-2004, 01:07 AM	#59
blitzmage Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 506	Haha, I love how the main window says "You have loads of spyware/Adware on your computer." The poor little window is adware himself. =( Remember Weasels need protection also! Edit: You may want to get just Mozilla Firefox instead, it's compleatly clean.

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