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People who have Etterna as their only solution to every problem on FFR mayyyybe should just leave ffr, just a thought you know.
Something something, community, something something.

FFR is a small community. I'd imagine Etterna is even smaller.
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:04 PM   #22
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Something something, community, something something.

FFR is a small community. I'd imagine Etterna is even smaller.
But no matter the communities it's the same as if they're saying "Oh I'm posting in this forum I find shitty but Etterna though, that's the place I want to be". Like lmao just gtfo and wait for that forum or go help its development idk
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:05 PM   #23
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Everybody who gets actioned on by mods hates the mods and the way they mod. It's been that way forever.
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:08 PM   #24
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People who have Etterna as their only solution to every problem on FFR mayyyybe should just leave ffr, just a thought you know.
yeah but where else would i shitpost
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:09 PM   #25
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Is my original point going to get addressed....?

I don't want this to be a mods vs non-mods thing, I hope I've made that clear. Some of the best friends I've ever had are on the mod team, and that's extended to the rest of ffr as a whole too which is why I'd rather sort through issues before people get exiled. I say this as someone who's never had disciplinary action from a mod in anywhere really, except when I spammed my sig in the stepmania discord a few years ago.
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:11 PM   #26
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yeah but where else would i shitpost
It's no shitposting when you're simply getting hard to the thought of Etterna though *rolls eyes*
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:13 PM   #27
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It's no shitposting when you're simply getting hard to the thought of Etterna though *rolls eyes*
I actually get hard at the thought of eating a ban but despite never posting anything of value for over 200 posts im somehow not banned
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:14 PM   #28
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...eating a ban...
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All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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Old 11-9-2018, 08:17 PM   #29
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hey wait I think I know how to mod better than some of these people

I officially announce my bid to run for mod 2019

we'll make ffr great again
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:17 PM   #30
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Speaking specifically about Travis's post, it was transphobic iirc, and that stuff has to be and will be deleted.

I tend to think of myself as probably the least heavy handed mod when it comes to moderation, but this particular thread had devolved to the point where people were posting number puzzles. That stuff in it's own thread would be fine, but this one had devolved too much to continue imo.
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:20 PM   #31
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Is my original point going to get addressed....?

I don't want this to be a mods vs non-mods thing, I hope I've made that clear. Some of the best friends I've ever had are on the mod team, and that's extended to the rest of ffr as a whole too which is why I'd rather sort through issues before people get exiled. I say this as someone who's never had disciplinary action from a mod in anywhere really, except when I spammed my sig in the stepmania discord a few years ago.
this thread is already off topic
maybe that's just the way this forum goes
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:21 PM   #32
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I was a chatmod on the dragon's fury forums
I kept muting, kicking and banning people who I found were in any way being offensive and/or "not nice"

In other words:
I was a partypooper with no sense of humour, with no sense on nuance, who would at a glance, on a whim, shut down the fun for everyone

I was no longer a chatmod on the dragon's fury forums
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I tend to think of myself as probably the least heavy handed mod when it comes to moderation, but this particular thread had devolved to the point where people were posting number puzzles. That stuff in it's own thread would be fine, but this one had devolved too much to continue imo.
I'm so used to GameFAQs style of posting that it was normal for me, dohoho.

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I mean it was essentially becoming a "All in One" thread as soon as people were talking about something else besides QueenAshy's status.
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Old 11-9-2018, 08:25 PM   #34
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The reason posts get deleted is because it does the community more harm to have a bunch of gross hostile crap on display for everybody to see that it does harm to somebody having their gross hostile post deleted.
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they wouldn't do this to me over at thirdstyle dot com
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The reason posts get deleted is because it does the community more harm to have a bunch of gross hostile crap on display for everybody to see that it does harm to somebody having their gross hostile post deleted.
So here's the scenario, hyperbolic for further clarity of course:

Jimmy posts an opinion he has for x, y, z reason, with hopes to have his opinion heard, or to hear thoughts about said opinion. This opinion is controversial, and negative, but is a stance regardless.

Susie posts a retort to Jimmy's opinion. It's not terribly civil either honestly, and is the opposite from what was originally said.

Jimmy and Susie bicker back and forth in this thread for a few minutes, when their posts get deleted and the thread gets locked. Maybe they also get a 1 day ban.

Jimmy still has his stance, probably even more strongly than he did before, and he's even more upset about it potentially. He may also dislike Susie now.
Susie still has her stance, probably even more strongly than she did before, and she's even more upset about it potentially. She may also dislike Jimmy now.

9 days later, a new thread comes up, and both Susie and Jimmy are present and their opinions come up. Chances are they'll be even more vitriolic because of what went down, not getting closure, maybe they also didn't like being censored, they essentially got cut off early and had their voice suppressed instead of being corrected. They probably use more poignant grammar and more angry bolded caps now; the cycle repeats and the problem grows each time.



This is an oversimplification as well, and isn't quite accurate but is what I've moreorless noticed happening potentially, with at least a couple people.
Would not deleting posts help this? ....well it couldn't hurt, assuming we want them to stay in the community (I do, because I like 95% of people on ffr well enough).
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there's a difference between insinuating black people are a different race as a humorous quip (tastes may vary) and saying "Dude, ******s should just leave the country, I can't stand the idea all these children having a negro as their parent"

the rules may say it's not allowed to post content which is racist but can we really not see the difference between having a dubious sense of humor and being... actually fucking racist?
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there's a difference between insinuating black people are a different race as a humorous quip (tastes may vary) and saying "Dude, ******s should just leave the country, I can't stand the idea all these children having a negro as their parent"

the rules may say it's not allowed to post content which is racist but can we really not see the difference between having a dubious sense of humor and being... actually fucking racist?
Um...about that.
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also, permabanned from the ffr discord for calling QueenAshy a he? really?
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also, permabanned from the ffr discord for calling QueenAshy a he? really?
Wait, that was a perma? I thought it was a temp ban.
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