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Old 06-18-2014, 06:32 PM   #1
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Default UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and...funded-schools

I think it is funny . Someone said something about dirt not turning into brains. Lol lol lol because I have taken anatomy courses which is a science.. and our bodies are made up if the same elements of dirt. Actually the exact same elements. Almost 99% of the mass of the human body is made up of six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. . . These are also the major elements in dirt. What a coincidence.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:10 PM   #2
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this is stupid man science should be about learning both sides of the story
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:17 PM   #3
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Someone said something about dirt not turning into brains.
well he's right you know. Some clearly turn from brains into dirt. lol

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Old 06-18-2014, 07:31 PM   #4
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i am ok with creationism being taught in schools as long as they dont skip the chapter: myopic god, deific ineptitude at its finest
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:38 PM   #5
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this is stupid man science should be about learning both sides of the story
Kidding aside, science is about finding the most precise theory, based on facts in order to help the future, which the Bible wasn't able to do for, well, about 2000 years.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:50 PM   #6
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

because shoving reality down peoples throats is going to stop them from actively searching out fantasies
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:39 PM   #7
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

Sick but yet they can teach evaluation Which has no scientific backing as well. They are both just theory s if you want to look at it from a "scientific" point of veiw.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:57 PM   #8
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Pseudo Enigma hit the nail on the head with "shoving reality down peoples throats."

It's important that people see why creationism is wrong, not just accept that it is.

Otherwise, they won't actually be understanding anything. They'll have the "correct" views, but they can't say why, so their thought processes will be just as poor as before and they'll be able to seek out equally ridiculous substitutes without applying the principles that would lead you to understand why those substitutes are wrong.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:08 PM   #9
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creationism isn't banned from being talked about, it's simply banned from being presented as a valid alternative to evolution
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

I was under the impression that you already couldn't really teach it.

I mean, you can't teach something that isn't science in the science classroom? Holy shit mind blown.

I don't know enough about what things are like in the deep south, but my guess would be that this would only be a substantial problem in those areas. Creationism as something that you seriously have to waste time and neurons disproving is so 10 years ago.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:11 PM   #11
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

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this is stupid man science should be about learning both sides of the story
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

I saw this in another chat room and when I got it after like 30 seconds, everyone was whining "that's not math" and praising me as a god. After some discussion about how I'd see it in a book of puzzles, a deeper thought hit me: It's not math. It's something much deeper: Critical thinking. That's how Asians are so far ahead.

The poser if anyone wants to see it:
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a1A3NeY_700b_v1.jpg

The answer is 87. The numbers are upside down.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:12 PM   #13
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

How about:

- Hey guys, here is one side of the story
- Hey guys, here is the other side of the story

Think for yourselves and believe what you believe


(Because in all honesty, nobody gives a shit what alignment you take part of at the end of the day)
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:14 PM   #14
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How about:

- Hey guys, here is one side of the story
- Hey guys, here is the other side of the story

Think for yourselves and believe what you believe


(Because in all honesty, nobody gives a shit what alignment you take part of at the end of the day)
middle ground is always a good idea and will definitely help humanity in the long run
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

Isn't the whole "here's both sides of the argument" thing how we got into this whole mess in the first place? Anti-gay marriage, chemtrails, anti-vaxxers, creationists, etc.
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the whole "here's both sides of the argument" thing puts a non-science on the same playing field as a science
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re: "both sides"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

"You say the sky is blue, while I say the sky is red. Therefore, the best solution is to compromise and agree that the sky is purple."

There are correct answers to things. Some "sides" are correct.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:26 PM   #18
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Default Re: UK Bans Teaching Creationism in State-Funded Schools Read

One word: Censorship

It's not like students can't read about it themselves, but this is still censorship.

edit: @Arch purple would be a pure mixture of the two. What if it were red with patches of blue mixed throughout?
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Creationism as something that you seriously have to waste time and neurons disproving is so 10 years ago.
except not because there was a debate this year about evolution vs creationism and there are also people who think the creationist's claims were more sound than the scientist's

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One word: Censorship

It's not like students can't read about it themselves, but this is still censorship.
in what way is this censorship?
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:28 PM   #20
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in what way is this censorship?
How is this not censorship? You're not allowed to teach a material. It's simple censorship.


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