01-28-2014, 10:59 PM | #21 | |
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01-28-2014, 11:45 PM | #22 |
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Meh. I didn't know.
My team was already pretty well fucked when I did that and I made a Hail Mary trying to take out someone I was pretty confident was a wolf. I was right, of course, but my mistake was obviously just in the guess. I saw France use the unusual phrase of "slow our role" (the correct phrase being "slow your roll") and connected it to something you had said earlier in another game, and thought that was enough of a tell to make a guess on. Oops. I guess homophone/idiom mistakes are common enough to not work for that. Anyway, my thought process was: at least if I'm wrong about this being Halogen, I don't have to deal with this shitty-ass shit anymore. I also realized that I had accidentally let my true identity slip even further in those final moments before I made the guess, and I figured there was a good shot I'd be ID'd easily. And of course, I was right about that, since a few people did namecheck me after I died. Can everyone else who made a guess explain their thought processes? There were some that made NO SENSE AT ALL. Some people had some tells, but others didn't have anything conclusive at all, especially early in the game. I just don't get it. Someone made a joke about IP checks... that didn't really happen, did it? That said, USA did well. It just bugs the crap outta me how easily the town let themselves be manipulated this time. USA played it kind of like V did in the previous game... except not quite as well... but I guess the results speak for themselves regardless here, huh? I mean, by the end of the game, I was thinking "I'm not going to be surprised if US is red," but she was still able to keep very good control of the people who were still alive. Myself and a few others called Germany early on during day 1, so I'm not throwing them praise, even if they lasted for a bit past day 1. Ditto for France. Screw you, France. Greece left no impression before being mod-killed (what was that for again?), so no praise there either. Scotland was a replacement at the last second and I can't even think of who they were replacing, so no praise for them or the butt nugget they replaced. So yeah, I would say that USA pretty much single-handedly won it. Good job, USA. ps Yes, yes, yes. Players who don't cut it should be excluded from signups for the next game at the very least. Maybe allow them to be replacements, but don't let them have a place ahead of people who will actually be able to remain engaged throughout the whole thing. I don't care what the reason is for failing to fulfill your duties, if you might not be able to play, don't sign up. If something unforeseen comes up, like some horrible car accident or something, then missing the next game should probably be the least of your worries. |
01-28-2014, 11:49 PM | #23 | ||
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gg to the whole wolf team. more active than a lot of recent wolf teams here, which isn't a requisite (win at any cost), but it help makes the game entertaining for everyone.
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gutsy, gutsy move there. well done. guesskilling V was definitely the worst thing I did all game, as it was a result of poor planning on my part. everything else I did, I think I was only slightly off the mark. sorry team! there's always next year edit: Quote:
pretty much every other guess, feel free to ask Psychoangel Last edited by dAnceguy117; 01-28-2014 at 11:53 PM.. |
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01-29-2014, 12:10 AM | #24 | |
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I had to drop out because work, school, and running the previous FFR Official Tournament really just sucked every single ounce of time I had. I highly doubt anyone got a read on me based off of the previous wolf game, and I hadn't played anything before that. With that being said, it's not exactly hard to figure out who I am based off of my posting mannerisms, which certainly did not change in this TWG (which inevitably was the reason how I was so easily guessed). Even if Greece didn't guess me on the first day, I'm willing to bet that I would have slipped up someone and made a post that was easily recognizable. With 16k+ posts on the forums, it's pretty hard to go without seeing a post of mine at some point. |
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01-29-2014, 12:22 AM | #25 |
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oops sorry it wasn't from a twg post, it was a post elsewhere on the forums: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1317
That is the only instance Google could return of that phrasing on FFR, mistaking "role" for "roll". There are a lot of instances of the correct phrasing of "slow your roll" on FFR but only one instance with that homophone mix-up, so I thought it was worth a shot.
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01-29-2014, 12:30 AM | #26 |
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holy shit that's one of my really bad posts, thanks for exposing me
I can't blame you for at least trying to make that aggressive connection, though. Coincidence or not, it was fixated at a pretty minor but reasonable detail. |
01-29-2014, 12:36 AM | #27 | ||
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Yoshl is someone I'm very familiar with after speaking with him frequently on skype and such. For a little while we thought that Canada may have been you or jrodd but I started noticing some changes. One thing was in the way he responded upon making a mistake. I'd have to find the post again but that immediately got me off it being either of the two I first thought. I also looked back into previous threads for playing styles of people when I thought I knew who they might be. What really sealed the deal on me for yoshl was when he posted something like I guarantee there's a wolf in those posts even though I'm not one Certain mannerisms give people away. If I dug up posts I could give more examples. FunnyGurl I had thought at first might have been one of the more active players I had seen in the last game like BDN or Danceguy, once France died I noticed a bunch of tells start coming out. The biggest thing was her apologetic nature about being wrong and her confusion. If you go back I believe it's two wolf games ago you will see she ends up saying things like I'm sorry, I'm so confused, etc. She also has little quirks in her posting style you pick up on if you really pay attention to it. TPS222 was really a hail Mary guess. I had remembered during earlier discussions in the game that France had mentioned that TPS tends to become less interested in the game when he's not a wolf. There was also the more aggressive posting style that was going on. Not only did I spend a lot of time digging through past TWG threads to get reads on people I also watched the bottom of the thread for who was viewing. TPS lurked on his main a lot during this game. Guest was another who lurked a lot but I would notice people log off their main and hop on to a twg account. They may not have hopped in the thread right away but I would watch the bottom of the main forum as well. The process of elimination helped as well since some of the people who were killed ended up coming out. I didn't intend on the Italy guess but when he said he might know who I was and there was 30 some hours left in the night phase I didn't want to risk him deciding to say screw it and guess. We were too close to winning. The original intent was to put in a normal wolf kill and do the guess on FunnyGurl. I spoke with the other wolves and Fallen decided he was okay taking the risk with the Italy guess since he was the one I was least sure of out of the two. It basically came down to a we need these kills or we're losing and we took the risk at the end there. There was no way in hell there wasn't going to be a ton of heat on the 3 of us after that insta went down. So we went for it. Quote:
Random look into some thoughts/things in the game from my perspective: I will admit I was getting very frustrated with both UF and sunfan during this game (no offense meant in the things I'm going to bring up) UF got to me a bit because he didn't want to listen to any advice given to him at all. He was just like "this is my first game I'm going to do what I want and see the reactions." In my head I'm like dude this is a team game and you're hurting your team. I was completely ready to kill him and almost focused attention to him for a lynch but then he asked for a replacement. sunfan was the usurper and seemed to think he could pull fast ones on me and try to manipulate me. He also was trying to take control a lot of the time and there was no way I was going to let that happen considering he wanted to kill another wolf, so we definitely butt heads during the game a little bit. I didn't like the erratic posting either. Fortunately because of it when it came to Mexico he was the one to be killed. I actually flat out told him I felt as though Mexico was the vengeful nation and he stated he still wanted to kill him off. After the game he admitted to me that he had hoped that Mexico would have killed me, guess that backfired :3 He would tell lies and then recant them later on and it made it more difficult to work together as a team as well. He would get all over the place because of needing to kill of gradiant. I know that the usurper needs the head wolf dead to win but I think a better strategy would be to get the game down to where it's closer to a wolf win while keeping a small amount of heat towards that main wolf and then turning for the kill in a lynch situation. Not bouncing like a ping pong so that you're making yourself and fellow wolves look fishy. I didn't like the following my votes on the first day, especially because I really was just trying to get more people to talk early on in the game. The more people that are talking and giving away information the easier it is to hide being a wolf. Honestly because of the behaviors from UF and sunfan plus the lack of posting by gradiant early on I can't believe we pulled off a win. It took luck and a lot of manipulation on my part (sorry Funnygurl). It was really fun getting to be a wolf though. I love strategizing and if you were to ask the other wolves I'm sure they'd tell you how much I was talking lol. |
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01-29-2014, 12:38 AM | #28 |
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lol oops ended up back in the US account when that posted. Oh well
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01-29-2014, 12:43 AM | #29 | |
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Aside of that, I was wanting to guess netjet! as egypt because the "cool beans" (dont hear this often at all) response for my reads list came in in forum search with few people including him and i was sure ive seen him playing twg before. Good thing i didnt go through with that. Nice guess psychoangel |
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01-29-2014, 12:47 AM | #30 | |
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Germany should have died when france flipped as usurper nation.
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01-29-2014, 12:50 AM | #31 | |
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Didn't really expect the US though. Very well played game by them.
Scotland coasted. /shrug
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01-29-2014, 12:52 AM | #32 |
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I really think sunfan had no clue what he wanted to do. He was contantly jumping around. I thought for sure Gradiant was screwed once sunfan came out as usurper nation but fortunately for us no one picked up on it. Actually people started looking at me as possible main wolf after that.
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01-29-2014, 12:55 AM | #33 | ||
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01-29-2014, 01:01 AM | #34 |
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haha I decided that it would be best to kill you rather than one of the inactive people. It just seemed like if we killed an inactive that it would have to put suspicion on myself and Germany. I figured your kill could at least make it look like maybe you were right with England or something. At least you had had some activity and reads. I couldn't kill Egypt, she was on my side. That's basically how that happened.
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01-29-2014, 01:04 AM | #35 |
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I made this game too easy for you guys, lol.
I got played so hard hmmm. I was expecting to get killed at night because people kept on saying I looked green. I should have realized that something was up when I was still alive... |
01-29-2014, 01:08 AM | #36 | |
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That being said, my huge suspicion was mostly because of the controlling personalities of the game. Kayla and you reallllllllly made it hard to argue which meant you wanted it to go a certain way, with all those nations dieing like that it made it kinda obvious, but being new to the game made me kinda shutter away from my blunt nature for good reason. I'm the most blunt user on the site. Posting this way would have had me guessed, new or not. My derogatory tone is pretty much a staple of my personality I had to avoid it. Next game I'll try to be more assertive I think. All this said, I appreciate the praise but I feel it's a tad undeserved. I consider it more dumb luck than anything. I look forward to the next one(s). |
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01-29-2014, 01:15 AM | #37 | |
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Speaking from a spectator point of view, I totally called the US being a wolf. Well played by you, Kayla. Fun game to watch!
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01-29-2014, 01:20 AM | #38 | |
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01-29-2014, 01:28 AM | #39 |
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w/e though I just wont play anymore if it's really a big deal. AJ's been really excited to play so if that's how it has to be then it is what it is. I'll let him play and do something else.
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01-29-2014, 01:31 AM | #40 |
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don't drop the mic on us after a great performance like that!
those rules were created in a different era of TWG; it was taken way too seriously back then. The honor system has been in place here and respected for a decent amount of time now. The more people who want to play the better. |
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