09-11-2013, 04:24 PM | #41 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
choofers: that's a pretty nice set of techniques you know already, you should be able to do basically every puzzle that has or ever will be published in a newspaper or book with what you know. if you want to learn something new, i suggest some guy's tutorial called Strong Links For Beginners which describes the technique known variously as "2 strong links", "turbot fish", "2-string kite", "skyskraper", etc. be warned that it's written in a slightly patronising way on purpose. by the way you may like to know the 3x3 extension of an x-wing is called a "swordfish"
igotrhythm: the thing is sudoku books tend not to over-reach in terms of difficulty because they're supposed to be accessible to the general public who have usually not progressed beyond all-singles puzzles, and that's to boost sales. i'd recommend you check that the puzzles actually have a unique solution before you solve them, from what you said i think it's more likely that the puzzles are flawed rather than being too hard. i may be wrong though. also i miss borders, shame about it going bankrupt anything over 9x9 is too much damn hard work
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09-12-2013, 06:04 PM | #42 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
considering the number of clues there and this video
the "hardest puzzle" claim is fucking laughable hahaha
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09-12-2013, 06:20 PM | #43 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
"Hardest" doesn't have much to do with the number of clues. Some of the 17-clue puzzles are quite straightforward.
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09-12-2013, 06:23 PM | #44 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
i'm not sure what you mean by that. in general there's not really a correlation between how many clues a puzzle has and how hard they are, unless you're secretly a computer bot who only solves sudokus by brute force, in which case solving 17 clue puzzles would definitely be harder for you than (say) AAAing vertex beta vrofl or something.
hardest sudokus today typically range in the 22-24 clues region. that's just because there happen to be more minimal (i.e. you can't remove a clue and get another valid puzzle) sudokus within that clue range. in fact, some random guy did an analysis of rating over clues for minimal puzzles and they got that minimal puzzles get a little bit harder when they've got more clues. nobody knows why, though! i have no idea how hard the hardest 17 is, but i'd be surprised if it's like a mid-9 or higher here's a nice ridiculously hard 49 clue puzzle for your enjoyment Code:
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09-16-2013, 02:42 PM | #45 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
thats interesting as fuck and i didnt know that. thank you for bringing to light my ignorance
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09-16-2013, 04:19 PM | #46 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
Alright, so I finally solved this damn thing. Have a look at my solution path if you're interested/stuck/bored. By bored I mean VERY bored.
Warning: contains spoilers. That's it. Thread over. You can all go home now.
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09-20-2013, 04:11 PM | #47 |
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Re: The World's Hardest Sudoku (June 2012)
wow zap nice one minute waltz
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