Saving Up for New Guitar

cedolad · 07-12-2012, 11:29 PM

Suggestions? I've only really owned an Ibanez rg2ex1 and an Epi Les Paul. I'm looking for something I can still shred on, but has a beautiful, warm clean sound. Kinda looking at the Ibanez AWD83T. Something with a rosewood fret, don't care about body wood, but I'd like a strat like guitar. Maybe a tele?

Also I guess we can talk about pickups too, since I've only played on SD Jazz/Pearly Gates and EMG 81/85s.

**Hateandhatred** · 07-13-2012, 12:15 PM

If you don't care about body wood, you're pretty fine with any high end Ibanez.

I wouldn't recommend a Fender though, personnally. You pay for a name and it doesn't really deliver much. The tele is the "least stiff" Fender guitar I've ever played, lmfao. I absolutely hate how they feel in my hands, but suggestivemanias. I guess unless it's custom shop and you get everything you like with it, it's ok, but whatever.

Otherwise, well this. Maybe it's not exactly what you want, but definitely have a look at as many Music Man guitars you can find. They really feel epic.

Honestly, pickups are **** whatever, you can change them for not so much. But stay active and don't get low end bsery when high end pickups barely cost any more. But to be honest, it's all about your tastes. I plan on replacing my pickup with a Seymour Duncan Blackout because it sounds like god jacking off, but someone else might find it somewhat limited.

cedolad · 07-13-2012, 12:19 PM

I wasn't really looking for a Fender to be honest. Unless it was a MIJ and cheap as **** because idgaf.

I heard of Music Man guitars, isn't John Petrucci endorsing them? What's some models I can look at?

who_cares973 · 07-13-2012, 12:20 PM

First act guitars are pretty good and cheap. They even come with an amp and a starter book!

**Ohaider** · 07-13-2012, 12:21 PM

what's your quota

cedolad · 07-13-2012, 12:23 PM

Well I'm saving up for one, so it doesn't really matter, though I'd like something between 600-800.

**Hateandhatred** · 07-13-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cedolad

I wasn't really looking for a Fender to be honest. Unless it was a MIJ and cheap as **** because idgaf.

I heard of Music Man guitars, isn't John Petrucci endorsing them? What's some models I can look at?

Yup, I once planned to get his 7 strings signature.

About the models, honestly find a local shop that has a license for Ernie Ball guitars, sit down, experiment, ask the clerk for help when you figure something and find your best fit. They're pretty much all ****ing amazing for what you seem to be looking for, it's just gonna be a matter of experience. And anyway, you gotta try everything when you're willing to spend one to a few grands on an instrument. I highly recommend them all! =)

**One Winged Angel** · 07-13-2012, 12:26 PM

Budget?

EMGs are overrated imo. Not a big fan of active pickups since they'll only last you about 3-4 years if you're gonna be playing the damn thing a lot, maybe less. You can get very similar tones from DiMarzio or SD passives.

If you want a guitar with the best of both worlds (comfortable, thin neck for playing fast, warm 'acoustic' tones but not lackluster in distortion either), go with PRS. But be prepared to spend a shitload for something decent (at least 3k).

edit: didn't see your post with 600-800, oop

**Hateandhatred** · 07-13-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

If you want a guitar with the best of both worlds (comfortable, thin neck for playing fast, warm 'acoustic' tones but not lackluster in distortion either), go with PRS.

Holy shit seconded

And OWA, you can still get it used.

**~Zeta~** · 07-13-2012, 12:27 PM

Epiphone Les Paul has a massively thick neck, so it will give you issues if you're going to play fast on it. Fender and Ibanez tend to have really slim necks, so it's easier to hold/grip.

And yeah, don't go cheap on pickups. You'll regret it. Just read up on the ones you're interested in and read reviews.

Tonality isn't just affected by the guitar, by the way. You can make any feel by utilising the balance controls on your amp or tone controls on your guitar. Strings/wood/body and other minute affects can affect the timbre, though. Example: you can get a nice warm sound turning Treble quite down and Middle up a little bit (turning up the bass can make the lower strings muddy or overpower higher notes). It's just a matter of finding the right combination.

Would definitely go with Ibanez if you want a medium of both.

cedolad · 07-13-2012, 12:28 PM

I totally forgot about PRS'. I actually might go convince myself to get one. What's a good model? And do they have any semi-hollow or hollow's? I wanna try those out.

cedolad · 07-13-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Yup, I once planned to get his 7 strings signature.

About the models, honestly find a local shop that has a license for Ernie Ball guitars, sit down, experiment, ask the clerk for help when you figure something and find your best fit. They're pretty much all ****ing amazing for what you seem to be looking for, it's just gonna be a matter of experience. And anyway, you gotta try everything when you're willing to spend one to a few grands on an instrument. I highly recommend them all! =)

I was kinda hoping to avoid going to a music store, I kinda waltz in there and just play awesome guitars for 30 minutes and leave without buying anything lmao, they hate me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Zeta~

Epiphone Les Paul has a massively thick neck, so it will give you issues if you're going to play fast on it. Fender and Ibanez tend to have really slim necks, so it's easier to hold/grip.

And yeah, don't go cheap on pickups. You'll regret it. Just read up on the ones you're interested in and read reviews.

Tonality isn't just affected by the guitar, by the way. You can make any feel by utilising the balance controls on your amp or tone controls on your guitar. Strings/wood/body and other minute affects can affect the timbre, though. Example: you can get a nice warm sound turning Treble quite down and Middle up a little bit (turning up the bass can make the lower strings muddy or overpower higher notes). It's just a matter of finding the right combination.

Would definitely go with Ibanez if you want a medium of both.

Well yeah tonality isn't just the guitar, but it's the base of a good sound. You can't expect having a good tone with a First Act lol

And think again about going fast on an Epi man, I shredded that bitch every day until I got my rg2ex1. And it's still my favorite guitar.

**~Zeta~** · 07-13-2012, 12:32 PM

oh, I completely misread the op lmao. disregard that post. thought you meant you were picking between those. derp.

cedolad · 07-13-2012, 12:34 PM

No biggey, but I would buy another Ibanez in a heart beat, especially if it's the AWD83T. It's just beautiful.

Also Rob, what are some good DiMarzio's? I've heard nothing but good things, but can't bring myself to buy them.

07-12-2012, 11:29 PM	#1
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Saving Up for New Guitar Suggestions? I've only really owned an Ibanez rg2ex1 and an Epi Les Paul. I'm looking for something I can still shred on, but has a beautiful, warm clean sound. Kinda looking at the Ibanez AWD83T. Something with a rosewood fret, don't care about body wood, but I'd like a strat like guitar. Maybe a tele? Also I guess we can talk about pickups too, since I've only played on SD Jazz/Pearly Gates and EMG 81/85s.

07-13-2012, 12:15 PM	#2
Hateandhatred "The Quebec Steparatist." Join Date: Feb 2011 Age: 33 Posts: 1,947	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar If you don't care about body wood, you're pretty fine with any high end Ibanez. I wouldn't recommend a Fender though, personnally. You pay for a name and it doesn't really deliver much. The tele is the "least stiff" Fender guitar I've ever played, lmfao. I absolutely hate how they feel in my hands, but suggestivemanias. I guess unless it's custom shop and you get everything you like with it, it's ok, but whatever. Otherwise, well this. Maybe it's not exactly what you want, but definitely have a look at as many Music Man guitars you can find. They really feel epic. Honestly, pickups are **** whatever, you can change them for not so much. But stay active and don't get low end bsery when high end pickups barely cost any more. But to be honest, it's all about your tastes. I plan on replacing my pickup with a Seymour Duncan Blackout because it sounds like god jacking off, but someone else might find it somewhat limited. __________________

07-13-2012, 12:19 PM	#3
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar I wasn't really looking for a Fender to be honest. Unless it was a MIJ and cheap as **** because idgaf. I heard of Music Man guitars, isn't John Petrucci endorsing them? What's some models I can look at?

07-13-2012, 12:20 PM	#4
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar First act guitars are pretty good and cheap. They even come with an amp and a starter book! __________________

07-13-2012, 12:21 PM	#5
Ohaider FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 2,893	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar what's your quota __________________

07-13-2012, 12:23 PM	#6
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar Well I'm saving up for one, so it doesn't really matter, though I'd like something between 600-800.

07-13-2012, 12:27 PM	#10
~Zeta~ Flag Master Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Pole Age: 31 Posts: 2,156	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar Epiphone Les Paul has a massively thick neck, so it will give you issues if you're going to play fast on it. Fender and Ibanez tend to have really slim necks, so it's easier to hold/grip. And yeah, don't go cheap on pickups. You'll regret it. Just read up on the ones you're interested in and read reviews. Tonality isn't just affected by the guitar, by the way. You can make any feel by utilising the balance controls on your amp or tone controls on your guitar. Strings/wood/body and other minute affects can affect the timbre, though. Example: you can get a nice warm sound turning Treble quite down and Middle up a little bit (turning up the bass can make the lower strings muddy or overpower higher notes). It's just a matter of finding the right combination. Would definitely go with Ibanez if you want a medium of both. __________________

07-13-2012, 12:28 PM	#11
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar I totally forgot about PRS'. I actually might go convince myself to get one. What's a good model? And do they have any semi-hollow or hollow's? I wanna try those out.

07-13-2012, 12:32 PM	#13
~Zeta~ Flag Master Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Pole Age: 31 Posts: 2,156	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar oh, I completely misread the op lmao. disregard that post. thought you meant you were picking between those. derp. __________________

07-13-2012, 12:34 PM	#14
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Saving Up for New Guitar No biggey, but I would buy another Ibanez in a heart beat, especially if it's the AWD83T. It's just beautiful. Also Rob, what are some good DiMarzio's? I've heard nothing but good things, but can't bring myself to buy them. Last edited by cedolad; 07-13-2012 at 12:39 PM..

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