Old 01-7-2013, 02:34 PM   #561
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It's been in the rules for some time now that having multiple accounts spamming up the scoreboards is not okay. That's been in place for years now.
Then it looks like icy is hooped.
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Old 01-7-2013, 02:40 PM   #562
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my question is who really cares lmfao

there are only like handful of active players left on ffr l o l

let them have some fun, or wipe their scores and whatever because ffr is serious business. (with its MASSIVE playerbase)
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my question is who really cares lmfao

there are only like handful of active players left on ffr l o l

let them have some fun, or wipe their scores and whatever because ffr is serious business.
Did you miss the uproar on AJ only having one alt account that he plays downscroll on? Seems people care.
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Definition please. .-.

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If you say no to multiple accounts and no for having stats combined on one account, what are you supposed to say yes to?

Meh, it's pretty much what icy said, it needs a definition.

I don't see what this has to do with anything. You know what your case is with the combining of grandtotal if that's where this is coming from. When it comes to icy what stats does he have on these alts that would need combining exactly? The scores on the alts all appear to be quite easily obtainable for him.
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Did you miss the uproar on AJ only having one alt account that he plays downscroll on? Seems people care.
Yeah I read it and just shrugged at it. I say let the man do his thing especially in his case where its downscroll only and its one account.

What I was trying to get at is I think we have more important issues to focus on such as a) how to keep our playerbase (whatever is left) interested or Re-interested in playing this game b) how do we attract newer players. Because FFR has been for a while now on a pretty downward spiral in activity even though content continues to be added and we must evaluate the situation as to what the causes are, and what we can do the prevent or mitigate them... Focusing on issues of ACTIVE players having multiple accounts shouldn't be that important in a larger context if you have no influx of newer players, ya know?
Or you can not address the problems and just see where we end up...

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The way the official rules are set up for alt accounts, you can get grey areas like this. I'm fairly certain that IcyWorld didn't make those accounts specifically to flood scoreboards.

We should probably change the site rules to limit the number of alt accounts to 1 or something, or perhaps change it so only alt accounts that play a different style are allowed. Of course if this were to happen, it couldn't be retroactive because that would probably cause some sort of community uproar considering the last few pages of this thread. But better late than never to make site rules less vague I guess.
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You know many other people that had several other accounts actually posted them here and requested the wipe for fairness sake. You're fighting to keep scores that are easily obtainable to you on extra accounts for what? I don't see what's not to understand in the rule it says an. Not multiple, not many, an meaning one. Other people have been wiped for this in the past so in all fairness sake to them you should be too.

I should also note that most people who have been switching to other accounts as a main because they no longer wanted their main have been having their stats wiped as well.
The way I saw things, people offered their alt accounts to be wiped for their own reasons. Whether they thought it was fair, or they just didn't care about their alt accounts enough to play on them, or any other reason is irrelevant to me, they had their own reasons.

I thought it was just optional to have them wiped or not, and it sure seemed that way since the rule isn't being enforced beyond what people offer upon their own accord. As far as I know, I'm the first non-bs person with many alt accounts that got called on, so this is kind of awkward.

Personally I like having my alt accounts, I like to know I can play under a different username. Most of them are characters from video games, or tv shows, and it just makes it that much more fun. I don't have much reason to play on my main account, other than to try and keep my AAA count super high, or to GT whore, or to just play new songs, but those things aren't much fun to me anymore. Having alt accounts to play on feels more casual to me. So if you need a personal reason for not wiping (it sounded like if i offered one this would happen) then there ya go.
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This is just my opinion, but I feel that this is kind of unnecessary. The only thing I really see this affecting is ave rank and I don't find that a very big deal especially because if you AAA something you're always rank 1 (however I do see this bothering some people). I have a few alts myself just for fun because sometimes it gets boring on a main account when you already have good scores on every song. Idk this just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
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Yeah I read it and just shrugged at it. I say let the man do his thing especially in his case where its downscroll only and its one account.

What I was trying to get at is I think we have more important issues to focus on such as a) how to keep our playerbase (whatever is left) interested or Re-interested in playing this game b) how do we attract newer players. Because FFR has been for a while now on a pretty downward spiral in activity even though content continues to be added and we must evaluate the situation as to what the causes are, and what we can do the prevent or mitigate them... Focusing on issues of ACTIVE players having multiple accounts shouldn't be that important in a larger context if you have no influx of newer players, ya know?
Or you can not address the problems and just see where we end up...
This is something that pisses off the active userbase. They're trying to improve ranks and they have people who are capable of fgo AAAs making multiple alts and pushing their ranks down. So this is an issue.


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The way I saw things, people offered their alt accounts to be wiped for their own reasons. Whether they thought it was fair, or they just didn't care about their alt accounts enough to play on them, or any other reason is irrelevant to me, they had their own reasons.

I thought it was just optional to have them wiped or not, and it sure seemed that way since the rule isn't being enforced beyond what people offer upon their own accord. As far as I know, I'm the first non-bs person with many alt accounts that got called on, so this is kind of awkward.

Personally I like having my alt accounts, I like to know I can play under a different username. Most of them are characters from video games, or tv shows, and it just makes it that much more fun. I don't have much reason to play on my main account, other than to try and keep my AAA count super high, or to GT whore, or to just play new songs, but those things aren't much fun to me anymore. Having alt accounts to play on feels more casual to me. So if you need a personal reason for not wiping (it sounded like if i offered one this would happen) then there ya go.
Multiple accounts has been an issue for years this is nothing out of the ordinary. We've wiped people in the past for doing this (see zierg) so in essence letting you keep your scores is unfair to people wiped in the past for obtaining scores on alts legitimately. I understand having the casual play, AJ does it with the downscroll but you don't need 12 other accounts to do so. One maybe two fine, but this is overboard.

I'll let the community weigh in their opinions but I honestly think that you should choose an alt to keep and allow the rest to be wiped in fairness of everyone else.
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hmm, well due to fairness you can go ahead and wipe my alt accounts, didn't get too many scores on any of them but the alts I have are:

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EDIT: I also have this old 1 hand account almost forgot about it:
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However I no longer have access to that Vivace1234 account because that was the time when the database messed up or whatever, only had 2 FC's on it though, so I have no desire to keep it.
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Old 01-7-2013, 03:02 PM   #573
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This is just my opinion, but I feel that this is kind of unnecessary. The only thing I really see this affecting is ave rank and I don't find that a very big deal especially because if you AAA something you're always rank 1 (however I do see this bothering some people). I have a few alts myself just for fun because sometimes it gets boring on a main account when you already have good scores on every song. Idk this just doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
This is too subjective to be considered honestly. I too don't care much anymore about avrank but you know many people do.

Why not make this whole thing a new project for coders (admins or not) to link Alt accounts to the main one and have their lvlranks only private, so if you take AJ for example, he could still see his stats on a seperate lvlranks page and everything but only the main account's scores would be registered in the songs' leaderboard.
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This is too subjective to be considered honestly. I too don't care much anymore about avrank but you know many people do.

Why not make this whole thing a new project for coders (admins or not) to link Alt accounts to the main one and have their lvlranks only private, so if you take AJ for example, he could still see his stats on a seperate lvlranks page and everything but only the main account's scores would be registered in the songs' leaderboard.
Can't argue there, I like this idea.
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How about a "greylisted" status where an account can still track scores but isn't included in the leaderboard for ranks?
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I also think thats a good compromise. Plus 1.
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How about a "greylisted" status where an account can still track scores but isn't included in the leaderboard for ranks?
Yup, same idea and seems more simple to do. Thx
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I like opkiller's and qqwref's ideas lmfao

Anyways, I'd like to keep my Satsuru and IcyWorld alt accounts unwiped. They're my oldest and I came up with the usernames so I feel ever so slightly more connected to them than the rest.

You can wipe:
Flonne Angel
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Princess Daisy
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Sheena Fujibayashi
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Amy Rose
Priere
Princess Luna
Princess Cadance
Princess Cadence
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I did play on some of these a lot, so it's kind of addicting and hard to let go of something I put that much time in to.

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Continuing on xXOpKillerXx idea..

- Create a page to add a levelrank to your account with a limit.
* The levelrank page will make you create a profile so you can pick in the .swf the profile you want to play on. (see how stepmania profiles work..)
- Automatically hide the scores from alts in leaderboard but show them in levelranks. (without affecting leaderboard obviously)

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Everyone are on one account.
Leaderboards can get fixed with less confusion.
If you make a thread about it, it can makes things clear for everyone.
People with a good reason could have their levelrank sheet moved from their alt to their main before wipe but that's low priority imo.

Edit: I guess qqwref's idea works too even if that's still technically multiple accounts.

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How about a "greylisted" status where an account can still track scores but isn't included in the leaderboard for ranks?
THAT is something that I can agree with.
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